Calvin and Hobbes Mafia(GAME OVER! Grownups Mafia Wins!)

[TiphaineDeath]

If Desperado is Town I will See Skullduggery lynched or die myself.

That is all.

[Psyche]

Either way.

[Metal Sonic]

i don't really care either way, i missed 30 pages of posts



not like i can't read htme in 15 minutes

[Varsoon]

I don't like the claim by Desperado. Why? It uses info that isn't solely exclusive to him.
Anyone could claim bus-driver swapping the targets of Skull/Wolf after I talked so much about the redirect yesterday.
Also, I think it's actually a good lynch for today. Why?
Flavor-wise, he's bus-driver, which is a slimy girl in the canon of Calvin and Hobbes. Slimy girls are a confirmed scum group.
Also, I already suspect that my actions were redirected to Radiowolf as a setup to lynch me, and it follows that a BusDriver scum on a 2-person team (at N1) could have skull's targets hit Radiowolf, and then have the night kill delivered by the other team-mate.
Finally, I am uncomfortable with how quickly he's pushed my wagon despite being largely on my side on D1. It's like he saw me as an easier lynch target and went for it.

Vote: Desperado

Also, I'm confirming this, I did Neighbor Psyche. It actually worked this time, too.

[Varsoon]

Also-also, why the fuck would he bring up his PR so quickly if he was town?
ESPECIALLY with a PR of that power?
You didn't have to say what it is, either.

[Psyche]

he advocated your lynch a lot on d1

[Varsoon]

Shit, really? Because when I made my case on Zoidberg on D1, he was all about it.

Ach, my memory really does blow. Regardless, I guess I just don't like him for all the other reasons above.

[Desperado]

TIP is either lying or Monkey doesn't understand how to run his own setup. Given the mistake he made in my role PM, I'm inclined to go with the latter.

Psyche, if I really were the mafia redirector as you hypothesize, please explain why I claimed bus driver when it a) gives me no towncred and b) directly contradicts the report of another known PR after asking him to clarify his report.

[TheIrishPope]

WIFOM herpaderp
There's no way you're Town

[Desperado]

For posterity, Monkey said in my role PM that I target two players each night and the targets of their night actions would be switched, when he clearly meant that any night actions targeted against them would be switched. I had to ask for clarification. For this reason I find it likely that he is just confused about how a bus driver works.

[Desperado]

WIFOM herpaderp
There's no way you're Town

It isn't WIFOM when it's clear as fucking day that, if I rolled scum redirector like Psyche thinks, I screwed myself

for no reason whatsoever

.

I took the time to ask you if your report said I only visited you, and upon hearing this, I proceeded to...lie in such a way as to directly contradict something that I just asked you to clarify?

Come on. Someone start using their brain, please.

[TheIrishPope]

Yes
The mod
Who created this setup
Who checked for balance
Who went through a whole process of balance
Who used the roles which he personally thought were nice
Doesn't know what a Bus Driver is

Monkey, do you know what a Bus Driver is?

Desperado, you're scum alright?

[Varsoon]

I could see the Monkey being wrong deal, but, honestly, I want to see a lynch between TIP or Desperado. Either TIP is absolutely full of it and is scum trying to frame people, or Desperado is scum trying to make himself appear more town.

Regardless, Monkey can't clarify in-thread so this all amounts to an insane amount of WIFOM based off of two PR claims no one can confirm.

Can we do some actual scum-hunting?
Also, Desperado, you're at L-2. Why go down this WIFOM hole so deep?

[Psyche]

We have to be able to advance with our faith in the mod's credibility. If it turns out that what's going on is a mod-driven mistake, we'll have to complain with it in the endgame.

But right now we don't decide that the game's mechanics must not be executing regularly.

[Desperado]

I just told you that his role PM for me, as originally written, is wrong.

You'll see once I flip town and he shows my role PM at the end of the game.

[MonkeyMan576]

I've warned against using mod communication to confirm your role. Because this has been abused I will not allow any more mod questioning.

[Desperado]

I could see the Monkey being wrong deal, but, honestly, I want to see a lynch between TIP or Desperado. Either TIP is absolutely full of it and is scum trying to frame people, or Desperado is scum trying to make himself appear more town.

Regardless, Monkey can't clarify in-thread so this all amounts to an insane amount of WIFOM based off of two PR claims no one can confirm.

Can we do some actual scum-hunting?
Also, Desperado, you're at L-2. Why go down this WIFOM hole so deep?

Because I'm getting lynched for basically nothing, and the argument that I'm scum depends on me being

a fucking moron

.

And I'm not a fucking moron.

[Desperado]

We have to be able to advance with our faith in the mod's credibility. If it turns out that what's going on is a mod-driven mistake, we'll have to complain with it in the endgame.

But right now we don't decide that the game's mechanics must not be executing regularly.

I really can't argue with this

Vote: TheIrishPope

[Varsoon]

Desperado, 1066 is a pretty hard ATE and 1067 seems like an OMGUS/squirmvote given that I just set you up as believable antagonists with my post, giving you at least the subconscious idea I might put my vote on him instead.

So, please, dig yourself a deeper hole. You respond really poorly under pressure, scum.

[Psyche]

unvote

(For the record, AtE and OMGUS aren't scumtells.)

Let's not rush this.

[Varsoon]

Fair enough, Psyche.

I don't believe in rushing things, either. I just think Desperado, especially with his claim, deserves some pressure.

I'll keep my vote there.

[TheIrishPope]

Psyche
Wat
We know he is scum

[Desperado]

Desperado, 1066 is a pretty hard ATE and 1067 seems like an OMGUS/squirmvote given that I just set you up as believable antagonists with my post, giving you at least the subconscious idea I might put my vote on him instead.

So, please, dig yourself a deeper hole. You respond really poorly under pressure, scum.

Are you high?

How is it OMGUS when FMPOV

TIP is lying

?

Please misrep harder.

[TiphaineDeath]

UNVOTE: VOTE: varsoon

you want actual scumhunting? Have a cookie.

You deserve to be lynched for 1070 alone.

[Psyche]

TIP, his claim doesn't read as a scumpost.