Mini 1468: Legends of the Hidden Temple- Game Over!

[Amrun]

Jesus shit, you're an arrogant son of a bitch.

You think too highly if yourself and it's coloring your perception of the game. That's why it's not interesting. Thinking the game revolves around you can be a scum trait but in this case I think it's more a symptom of ego.

I never called you a noob, ONCE. Asking your experience is not an implication of an answer. Get over yourself and start playing the game without your head up your own ass.

[Wisdom]

You implied it, it's the same thing. And you implied it right after I accused you.

[Elyse]

Hi everyone!

Whatever

FoS: Amrun, since suggesting such things usually comes from scum going for cred.

Is this a serious FoS?

[Wisdom]

I don't know, do you think it's serious?

[enomis]

No, only when at least one player FROM EACH team reaches a pre-determined amount of arbitrary votes.

Wisdom, how much mafia experience do you have?

What is a good number of arbitrary votes? We have 12 players. 5 is a good number?

How do you get wisdom probably town? From i read, you only seem to have him as an egoistic person?

[Elyse]

I don't know, do you think it's serious?

That's why I asked you. What's with not answering questions?

[Wisdom]

Because they're bad questions. If I posted that, it was probably serious.

[Elyse]

Ok, that's all I needed.

[Wisdom]

Elyse, what is your opinion on Amrun's suggestions?
Do you agree we should fake-vote etc?

[enomis]

@Elyse: If it was serious what does it mean about wisdom. If it was not serious, does it lead you to having a different kind of read on wisdom?

[Grimgroove]

Will only be able to get into this game tomorrow. Hi for now!

[Amrun]

I never implied you were scum, Wisdom. If I had conviction on that end, I would have said so.

Eno, 5 sounds good. The main thing is we don't want to end up with only one suspect in the lynch pool in case (s)he becomes obvious town. Also having dueling wagons is always helpful for later analysis.

Furthermore, letting scum choose whether or not they are in the lynch pool by only choosing one side of the challenge removes a town advantage that we should absolutely have.

And Wisdom is probably town because he's engaging in risky behavior for scum. I'm one of the more experienced players in the game, which makes attacking me for, essentially, being too pro-town and being extremely rude in the process an intimidating one for scum. It's still risky even if I were a newer player, though a little less so. Either way being rude for rudeness sake is a quick way to make enemies and scum desire NOT to do this. Some people are rude no matter what, but either way I'm happy setting him aside for the day.

[Wisdom]

being too pro-town

Nope.
If you think your suggestions make you pro-town, think again. Scum are going to go for this exact behavior in the beginning of such a game.


And stop lying, you implied I am a noob and you implied I'm scum.

[Wisdom]

Also, fwiw; I would attack you the same way if I was scum. I am not hesistant in such matters. This is a really bad reason to townread me.

[Wisdom]

hesitant*

[pirate mollie]

I never implied you were scum, Wisdom. If I had conviction on that end, I would have said so.

Eno, 5 sounds good. The main thing is we don't want to end up with only one suspect in the lynch pool in case (s)he becomes obvious town. Also having dueling wagons is always helpful for later analysis.

Furthermore, letting scum choose whether or not they are in the lynch pool by only choosing one side of the challenge removes a town advantage that we should absolutely have.

And Wisdom is probably town because he's engaging in risky behavior for scum.

I'm one of the more experienced players in the game

, which makes attacking me for, essentially, being too pro-town and being extremely rude in the process an intimidating one for scum. It's still risky even if I were a newer player, though a little less so. Either way being rude for rudeness sake is a quick way to make enemies and scum desire NOT to do this. Some people are rude no matter what, but either way I'm happy setting him aside for the day.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

and you say wis is the one with the ego?????

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....ah

[pirate mollie]

Also, fwiw; I would attack you the same way if I was scum. I am not hesistant in such matters. This is a really bad reason to townread me.

yabbut your arguments are really dumb when you are scum

<3 wis

[Wisdom]

inb4 she goes
"I have a scummy, you're all noobs"
I've seen that happening

[Wisdom]

yabbut your arguments are really dumb when you are scum

Did that prevent me from winning last time? xD

[Amrun]

The suggestion itself is 100% pro-town. This set-up isn't a mystery so if the plan is adopted, it will be a good plan regardless of the alignment of the originator.

Sure, suggesting it doesn't make me town, since scum also want to appear town. It also doesn't make me scum, either. In fact, traditionally, such suggestions are made far more often by town -- BUT it's still null because the scum motivation for doing it is so cut and dry. So the fact that I suggested a plan should not be treated as a tell in either direction (in my opinion, at least). Analyzing the manner in which I did it is another matter entirely.

And as I said, some people are rude regardless, but it's a perfectly valid reason to not be interested in pursuing you at the moment. That conviction is only strengthened by you arguing with the basis of my townread on you.

P-edit:

Experienced =\= skill. I am not even close to one of the best players on ms, but on the context of this game, I am one of the most experienced.

And it is just a basic fact. Sorry if that bothers you.

P-edit 2: my particular scummies say almost nothing about my relative talent. It can, however, be intimidating to inexperienced players.

[Amrun]

For the record, the most experienced are StrangerCoug and NS. The probably me and enomis.

[Wisdom]

Yeah, I don't agree. That suggestion sounds to me like directing a vengekill, basically allowing scum to direct the challenges and therefore the lynches whatever way they want.

Also, how do you know that you're the most experienced? It was clear from your question about my experience that you don't know how much experience others have; and as you said the experience in MS isn't the only experience. So..?

[Wisdom]

Oh nevermind. I'll take a wild guess and say that 95 means that you're judging experience by the joindates.

[enomis]

Yeah, I don't agree. That suggestion sounds to me like directing a vengekill, basically allowing scum to direct the challenges and therefore the lynches whatever way they want.

Also, how do you know that you're the most experienced? It was clear from your question about my experience that you don't know how much experience others have; and as you said the experience in MS isn't the only experience. So..?

How does it let scum direct? There are more town than scum.

[SafetyDance]

Oh yeah this game started.

VOTE: AP

Because I'm all these pages are most him talking to himself.

/inb4 he quadruple-triple-someserault-pike role gambits.

I'm out most of Sunday. Will machete through the jungle of posts afterwards.