Mini 1468: Legends of the Hidden Temple- Game Over!

[Majiffy]

Spoiler: I guess Mollie beat me to half of this already.

General question: Any guidelines on how to use the private QT properly for scumhunting? I realize it gives you an extra forum in a way, but I don't see why not everything we say could occur here.

More intimate conversations about reads that aren't obscured by other happenings in the thread. I actually had a game with Venmar recently where I neighbored him and he was very shaky about his reads in the neighborhood, led me to start to suspect him.

Awful idea. Terrible. I've already explained why.

I didn't find it a very compelling explanation.

I thought the exact same thing when moving to the next page.
Up to and including page 6 pirate mollie is giving me the strongest scumvibes, lack of involvement with the game at hand. The back-and-forth with Wisdom following this comment is not reassuring at all. What is so important about having a talk with Majify first? What is trolleytracking anyway?

She wanted me to fully explain the setup mechanics to her. And trolleytracking is tunneling.

Mollie is town, move on.

What is burying posts and what good does it do scum? Some people hate walls, others hate double-posts, but if someone has a lot to share, they have to choose one of both. Do you feel people who post a lot of information are scummy?
Why are you relying so much on Majify in this game? Why can't you make your own conclusions?

Burying posts is overwhelming the thread with more noise than signal while making it look like you're posting content. Adding so much to read to the thread in such a short period of time, and usually with high frequency, makes the town players feel overwhelmed and eventually lazy, which fosters an environment that is pro-scum. Check out the Posh game for a great example of this in action.

Why are you avoiding

me

? I've stated a firm town read on Mollie and you haven't so much as questioned me about one thing, whilst making posts that seem to indicate you have scum feelings for Mollie.

@Majiffy
If you can find someone who mentioned all of the things I mentioned in my post before me, then I'll concede to your point, but it's not true. I did bring up those things first.

Lazy. But maybe later. We'll see.

- Majiffy baby is there anyway you could put Wisdom in your scumpile instead of the townpile?

Not right now, but I'm down with an AP lynch.

Yeah, but you can't directly
Yet he answered the question "who would you challenge" with someone that he cannot challenge directly.
I could even see that as a scumslip, tbh. If both Venmar and AP are scum, then obviously they wouldn't care about being partners since they would already be scumbuddies.
But maybe that's a stretch.

You're an idiot.

[pirate mollie]

Dunno about you, but I prefer reading 5-6 one line posts than reading quote walls.

not when I am having to backtrack later in the game to find an overview of relevant points after receiving new info

[Venmar]

Oh, I thought you could challenge teammates? Darn it, AP is my partner.

*sob* *sob*

[Wisdom]

I don't see the difference; all my posts addressing his points were one after another; would it be different if they were in a single post?

[Wisdom]

Oh, I thought you could challenge teammates? Darn it, AP is my partner.

*sob* *sob*

^
I still think that was a scumslip btw

[Amrun]

Pirate mollie, it's not that he did it necessarily. It's the way he did it. Once again, I really don't care who agrees with me and I never will unless he was about to be lynched. I may change my read later; I may not. For today, I am not interested in him dying and that's that.


Majiffy, was Venmar scum in that game?

P-edit: I do not follow the reasoning for that being a scumslip in the slightest.

[Wisdom]

And I do not follow why someone mentions their partner as the first person they would challenge.

Oh, apparently it's because "he thought he could challenge his partner", which is ridiculous.

[Grimgroove]

I'm not making any friends here obviously

Actually, this isn't a laughing matter. It makes me a bit sad

No, that's not the only reasons for Wisfom town. He attacked a player with an earlier join date etc. with unknown skill (to him) very aggressively in a way that I think is indicative of town. He was also quick to admit he was wrong even when I was still under fire from other parties.

The "attacking a player with an earlier join date"-argument was already nullified by Wisdom himself. Why do you stick to it? This kind of argument suggest tha any newbie attacking anyone is pro-town per definition. doesn't make much sense, you seem to value join dates a bit too much and I don't just say this because I'm fairly new myself.. But personally I don't really consider join dates as relevant when deciding on how to act towards someone.

I don't particularly care if you agree with my town read, though.

Why not? Are my reads in general irrelevant to you? If so, why?
I don't fully understand what it is I've done that warrants such an agressive tone.

"La la land mudslinging" is my slang for throwing nonsensical shit at someone and hoping it sticks. In this case, I was referring to you, though I also think it's true of AP (and moreso).

I have not thrown shit, I have merely asked questions based on an initial reading, in order to integrate myself within this game through discussion and Q&A-rounds. Sorry if me asking for things that have been said is experienced as bothersome or mudslinging, but I did add a disclaimer that one should feel free to refer to earlier posts in case I missed something.

Catching up on 11 pages can be done in different ways, apparently I did it wrongly but bygones are bygones.

[Venmar]

Wisdom you're just pulling at straws that don't even exist.

[Wisdom]

Wisdom you're just pulling at straws that don't even exist.

Yeah, that's what I would also say if I slipped

[Venmar]

Pirate mollie, it's not that he did it necessarily. It's the way he did it. Once again, I really don't care who agrees with me and I never will unless he was about to be lynched. I may change my read later; I may not. For today, I am not interested in him dying and that's that.


Majiffy, was Venmar scum in that game?

Yeah, I was: Mini 1442: House of Cards

For reference, that is my very latest scumgame, and i'm pretty proud of my play in it ( minus for the unneeded cockiness at the end )

PEdit: When can we start challenging omfg

[Wisdom]

Once again, I really don't care who agrees with me and I never will unless he was about to be lynched. I may change my read later; I may not. For today, I am not interested in him dying and that's that.

Amrun, why do you have this frustration about explaining your townread? You're practically saying "omg guys I just townread him okay? i dont care if you agree just stop asking me to explain!"

[Grimgroove]

I thought the exact same thing when moving to the next page.
Up to and including page 6 pirate mollie is giving me the strongest scumvibes, lack of involvement with the game at hand. The back-and-forth with Wisdom following this comment is not reassuring at all. What is so important about having a talk with Majify first? What is trolleytracking anyway?

She wanted me to fully explain the setup mechanics to her. And trolleytracking is tunneling.

Mollie is town, move on.

Not taking your word for it, I hope you understand, but given this mutual stance and your long history together, I'll take this as the two of you belonging to the same alignment.

What is burying posts and what good does it do scum? Some people hate walls, others hate double-posts, but if someone has a lot to share, they have to choose one of both. Do you feel people who post a lot of information are scummy?
Why are you relying so much on Majify in this game? Why can't you make your own conclusions?

Burying posts is overwhelming the thread with more noise than signal while making it look like you're posting content. Adding so much to read to the thread in such a short period of time, and usually with high frequency, makes the town players feel overwhelmed and eventually lazy, which fosters an environment that is pro-scum. Check out the Posh game for a great example of this in action.

Why are you avoiding

me

? I've stated a firm town read on Mollie and you haven't so much as questioned me about one thing, whilst making posts that seem to indicate you have scum feelings for Mollie.

I am avoiding you because you are evidently too magnificent a foe for the likes of me. I think avoiding you will be the best tactic for me to win this game.

Yes, I've seen some posts by mollie that gave me scumvibes. Yours didn't really catch my eye in any way.

[Venmar]

Welcome the

Wisdom

Logic Circus! Today, we got an awesome treat for you!

Wisdom you're just pulling at straws that don't even exist.

Yeah, that's what I would also say if I slipped

Looks like someone scumslipped

That's Wisdom Logic for you! And it makes Sense! Thank you everyone for coming, you've been wonderful!

[Wisdom]

So what's the plan, Venmar? "Let's make Wisdom look like an idiot so that nobody notices my slip?" Is that it?

Also, what's stopping you from challenging me if you're so confident? Looks to me like you want the town permission so that you don't look bad for it, hm?

[Majiffy]

Majiffy, was Venmar scum in that game?

Yes.

And I do not follow why someone mentions their partner as the first person they would challenge.

Or maybe he just listed his scumspects, which is exactly what he did.

Not taking your word for it, I hope you understand

Does not compute.

I am avoiding you because you are evidently too magnificent a foe for the likes of me. I think avoiding you will be the best tactic for me to win this game.

Well at least you have your head in the game.

[Wisdom]

Or maybe he just listed his scumspects, which is exactly what he did.

Nope. He was answering to the question "Who would you challenge". Read the thread better.

[Venmar]

Yeah... to which i listed my scum suspects...?

[pirate mollie]

I don't see the difference; all my posts addressing his points were one after another; would it be different if they were in a single post?

yes. for me it does. there was flow to coug's thoughts that if I look back and try to find your exchanges it fragments the conversation. I also think breaking it up in the way that you did was completely unnecessary hence why you are in my unsure/leaning scum pile. why are you asking me these dumb questions instead of getting your hands dirty? you did a bit with amrun but I don't see you doing anything else. what are your reads right now you usually have list by p10.

[Wisdom]

Oh, I thought you could challenge teammates? Darn it, AP is my partner.

*sob* *sob*

^
Did you miss this, Majiffy? His response was NOT "I was just listing my scumreads", it was "I thought I could challenge my teammate".
Do you still want to insist that it was not what it was?

[Venmar]

So what's the plan, Venmar? "Let's make Wisdom look like an idiot so that nobody notices my slip?" Is that it?

- So you agree your logic was idiotic?

[Grimgroove]

now. your questions come across as being a bit useless cos they are persistent and incessant (not to mention repetitive) and seem less like you are trying to determine anyone's alignment from them and more like you just want to look busy which I see as more scum motivated.

I repeated myself only once, when asking about the use of the QT's. I'll use it to my best abilities, or just hope StrangerCoug can use it better and secure a warranted town-read on me.
They seem incessant because I'm making the most of my time online. I don't see the link between "uselessness" and "persistence".
Rest assured I'm trying to determine alignment with these questions. You have your ways and I have mine. Trying to get a feel of the people and the game mechanics, while at the same time establishing my presence here.

I don't like the general ambiance in this topic. Very long toes and very little goodwill/patience.

[Wisdom]

So what's the plan, Venmar? "Let's make Wisdom look like an idiot so that nobody notices my slip?" Is that it?

- So you agree your logic was idiotic?

So you agree that this is your plan?

[Venmar]

So you agree that you are an idiot? Oh cool k thanks bye

[Grimgroove]

Yeah, but you can't directly
Yet he answered the question "who would you challenge" with someone that he cannot challenge directly.
I could even see that as a scumslip, tbh. If both Venmar and AP are scum, then obviously they wouldn't care about being partners since they would already be scumbuddies.
But maybe that's a stretch.

Given you're so insistant on this point I want to weigh in on this and agree with others this argument makes little sense. He has a desire to challenge his partner, so what? What would you do if you thought your partner was scum and you were being asked on who you would challenge, Would you not mention your partner at all simply because he's your partner and the game mechanic only allows an indirect approach to formally challenge him?
First of all, there's a thing like the informal challenge, which is far more important. Second, the way around it is not complicated. If you want your partner to be in the lynchpool it's just as easy to do, if not easier. Just challenge anyone and it's done.

If pirate mollie's statement in 91 has any truth in it, this is definitely something to be remebered.