NY 165: A Large Normal (Game Over!)

[Serene]

The main posting head is Dr. Serene MD. Our therapist. The "sane" one as someone referred.

The others are the good doctor's loyal patients

Yea though I walk through the valley in the shadow of rage, I shall fear no scum. He leadeth me beside still waters. His rod and staff, they comfort me.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

looks like shameless ate

smells like shameless ate

[DOMO]

@shadi - Your #709 pinged pretty hard, up until then I was feeling town. I like your #797, that's a lot of work. Overall I'm feeling town on you shadi, more so than bulba. But I skimmed towards the end because I gotta go out. Will finish later.

[Serene]

And calc it's only fair to tell you that our push on you is the result of all heads feeling you as scum

Was kinda nice to agree with them on someone actually

[Serene]

Although I did laugh at calcs attempt to defuse his wagon by calling it a personal grudge perpetrated by some unknown person

[Calcifer]

I didn't say grudge. I said "had issues/beef with". Which meant what it means.
If Mr. Red is a member of your hydra as I thought, then Mr. Red has problems with Nacho. Said problems are not personal, nor a grudge in nature, but are still problems because they're wrong.

And I'm talking to him. I know that--despite a fondness for tunneling--Mr. Red

does

offer the occasional benefit of the doubt, and I'm asking him to give it. We're town, and let's face it, you're not going to live very long. You misreading us now means that your entire influence on the town could potentially be wasted, for exactly the reason I said: your reads on others are tainted by the wrongful assumption that we're scum. Thus, your entire reads could be off. And even if they're not, even if every single read you have other than ours is correct, the fact that your read on us is wrong and the fact that your logic for your other reads at least partially relies on us being scum, will make it so that others WILL discard your reads as being worthless, and you most likely being dead, won't be able to update them.

Which, again, is why I ask. Without us as scum. Reads. Heck, right now, Nacho's not being very talkative, so I might sheep you over sheeping him. (I trust Mr. Red to be competent.) But to do so, I need you to

not be calling my slot scum

.

[Serene]

Quit your bellyaching Calcifer, I'm not "Mr Red" and I've read you as scum since replacing in.

Without us as scum. Reads.

We've been giving out reads up the wazoo independent of your alignment. Also, we don't negotiate with scum.

But to do so, I need you to not be calling my slot scum.

hahahahahahahahhshshhhshsssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh aaaaaawwww

DIE
SCUM
DIE

[Cephrir]

looks like shameless ate

smells like shameless ate

[Shadi1337]

I think 1580 is pinging, not sure if it's due to the "high" amount of "pressure". I could also be wrong with claiming it's a pinging post?

[Rift Adrift]

I meta'd mastin when playing the buzzword biingo game. I wasn't looking for AtE, was looking for defense vs bussing of scumbuddies and a general feel for his town game vs scum game. IIRC he AtEs as both alignments. Will do some review, though, to be sure I'm remembering correctly.

[Ankamius]

Right, just going to start at the top of page 50 and ignore everything before it unless I have to go earlier. Otherwise, I'm never going to catch up.

Dram #1227 town but god damn it more please

Serene #1234 what why is this relevant

Calcifer #1242 I'm lost on this

Metal Sonic #1247 town

BulbaFenix #1251 town

TMTOLBTWNTOF #1260 getting some weird vibes off this

Zdenek #1271 weird vibes

Calcifer #1283 weird vibes

Calcifer #1302 looks unnecessarily wishy-washy

Zdenek #1332 weird vibes

TheIrishPope #1354 is just straight up bad

orcinus+Serene debate is painfully null and went on for too long

DOMO #1447 is spot on. All the bickering and ridiculous debates is just making it harder to find the motivation to read back. I started doing a read a couple days ago, but FIVE new pages showed up while I slept. I know most of it's going to be useless garbage, but it's making me not want to read through regardless.

Done at the end of page 58.

[Nero]

this is my 95th post in this thread making me joint 4th with shadi and tip.

[Rift Adrift]

I meta'd mastin when playing the buzzword biingo game. I wasn't looking for AtE, was looking for defense vs bussing of scumbuddies and a general feel for his town game vs scum game. IIRC he AtEs as both alignments. Will do some review, though, to be sure I'm remembering correctly.

Going to retract this because I can't find the town game I think I am remembering. I'm seeing emotion in recent-ish town games, but not pathos. I'll read a few more games tonight.

[Serene]

this is my 95th post in this thread making me joint 4th with shadi and tip.

I really really want to see you eat rope.

[Cephrir]

Looking at other Nero games I actually feel like he's less useful as town, but I also think he hasn't been very useful here.

[BROseidon]

Prod received.

I don't want to catch up on the 20 or so pages I'm behind. Someone pls summarize.

[PeregrineV]

Vote Count 1-12

(as of Post 1329)

StevieT92 (4)

- Nero, The Goat, BulbaFenix, StubbsKVM

Calcifer (4)

- orcinus_theoriginal, Serene, Zdenek, Metal Sonic

BROseidon (3)

- ProHawk, Brian Hollywood, DOMO

Shadi1337 (3)

- T S O, Cephrir, KingCrabd

BulbaFenix (2)

- dramonic, Calcifer

Zdenek (1)

- StevieT92

Cephrir (1)

- TheIrishPope

The Goat (1)

- TMTOLBTWNTOF

StubbsKVM (1)

- Baby Spice

Not Voting (4)

- BROseidon, Ankamius, Shadi1337, Rift Adrift

With 24 alive, it takes 13 to lynch

Deadline:

Wednesday, July 8, 2013 at 3pm Central Time.

Replacing:

No one

Prods:

T S O (ongoing) ((expired on 2013-07-01 01:40:00))
The Goat (ongoing) ((expired on 2013-07-01 01:40:00))
Brian Hollywood
TMTOLBTWNTOF
StubbsKVM

V/LAs:

None

[Serene]

Prod received.

I don't want to catch up on the 20 or so pages I'm behind. Someone pls summarize.

Nero and Calcifer both have confessed scum, please choose one to lynch.

[ProHawk]

Mason claims?

...I'll believe it for now. I assume that there are only 2 masons?

UNVOTE:

Will reread to decide whether to jump onto Shadi, Doc, or Stevie.

5 days later...

Prod received.

I don't want to catch up on the 20 or so pages I'm behind. Someone pls summarize.

Or, we could just vote this and save the trouble.

Prohawk I don't know what you are trying to accomplish with that post that's missing a Calcifer vote.

BRO is a waaay better lynch.

[TheIrishPope]

Ceph is a waaaaaaay better lynch.

[Serene]

Looking at other Nero games I actually feel like he's less useful as town, but I also think he hasn't been very useful here.

WOW - let me parse this word salad, scum.

(1) Nero hasn't been useful in this game.
(2) Nero is less useful as town than scum.
(3) therefore Nero is town
(4) are you fucking kidding me

How do you feel about Calcifer bus'ing you?

[Serene]

Ceph is a waaaaaaay better lynch.

Vig him and save us the trouble.

[TheIrishPope]

I'm a Vanilla Townie sadly

[Cephrir]

Looking at other Nero games I actually feel like he's less useful as town, but I also think he hasn't been very useful here.

WOW - let me parse this word salad, scum.

(1) Nero hasn't been useful in this game.
(2) Nero is less useful as town than scum.
(3) therefore Nero is town
(4) are you fucking kidding me

How do you feel about Calcifer bus'ing you?

well that was pretty uncalled for

I didn't say (3) but it's moved him up somewhat from null for me yeah

Deal with it?

[BulbaFenix]

I have strong townreads on you and Rift. DOMO is major scumhunting, which makes him a townread. We're town. If Serene is town, that would make every hydra in this game town, and that possibility intrigues and excites me, if only for the reason that it would allow for the possibility of a hydra town bloc. And I find that idea to be awesome.

You missed a hydra.

King Crabd is a strong townread as well.

However, we realize that it will be impossible to get a ProHawk lynch today.

No lynch is impossible if you sell it hard enough, and I'm certainly listening.

We replaced into the middle of the day, and reading through the thread, I judged that the atmosphere was not right to secure a ProHawk lynch. Currently, I like what I'm getting from him, and I want to interact some more.

It takes 13 to lynch, and we have 6 scum at most, and there are no plurality lynches. With that in mind, why would they be afraid of being lynched by scum, since scum do not have the power to enforce it? Unless they thought that maybe town would want to policy lynch them if we found out who made up the hydra?

I thought the assertion was stupid but I didn't think it was serious is what I was getting at. I don't quite understand how you come to the conclusion that
"being afraid of being lynched by scum is a scumclaim", though.

I never said it was a scumclaim. I just thought it was an odd bit of phrasing, and it kept us from putting him in our town pile.

Not sure what to think of Calcifer's more recent posts. Can someone tell me if this is typical for town Mastin?

Reserving judgement on Cephrir until I see him post more. I did like some of his points in his catchup posts.

Mason claims?

...I'll believe it for now. I assume that there are only 2 masons?

UNVOTE:

Will reread to decide whether to jump onto Shadi, Doc, or Stevie.

5 days later...

Prod received.

I don't want to catch up on the 20 or so pages I'm behind. Someone pls summarize.

Or, we could just vote this and save the trouble.

Prohawk I don't know what you are trying to accomplish with that post that's missing a Calcifer vote.

BRO is a waaay better lynch.

Based on this post? I disagree.

Got my interest in Mafia back. Will post that TSO analysis sometime tomorrow.

-Bulba