NY 165: A Large Normal (Game Over!)

[StubbsKVM]

I hope you're actually going to post content this time.

i've been posting content??

where's your case on BROseidon?

tomorrow.

and a day goes by...

[Metal Sonic]

Prod received.

I don't want to catch up on the 20 or so pages I'm behind. Someone pls summarize.

serene talking cock, orcinus and nero giving extremely funny retorts,

we are at the moment of lynching calcifer because nacho is playing funny


please iso calcifer and see if nacho/mastin is playing funny

[DOMO]

StevieT92 (4)- Nero, The Goat, BulbaFenix, StubbsKVM
Calcifer (4)- orcinus_theoriginal, Serene, Zdenek, Metal Sonic
BROseidon (3)- ProHawk, Brian Hollywood, DOMO
Shadi1337 (3)- T S O, Cephrir, KingCrabd
BulbaFenix (2)- dramonic, Calcifer

Ok then let's analyse the VC.

Stevie wagon makes some sense. He's not my preferred lynch, but I can see why he's getting votes. Those on his wagon don't lose or gain town points for voting for him.

Calcifer wagon makes no sense to me. It seems like it's purely based on nacho meta. It's day one of a big game, nacho is less dominant head of hydra, a meta lynch is weak imo. Those on his wagon lose town points. Except serene, obviously. Serene is just awful. Orc isn't awful, so I'm starting to get concerned about him, but I'm more concerned about the others on this wagon, zdenek in particular.

BRO wagon is good, those on it get +town points from me.

Shadi wagon is iffy, I'm gonna ISO TSO and kingcrab shortly. As for cephrir, well he has BRO as a scumread if I recall correctly, yet he's voting for shadi. Forgive me if I've missed something, but from what I read of shadi's ISO earlier, he's either town working his ass off to find scum, or scum working his ass off to look like town. I don't see a great deal of scumminess in shadi's posts. Meanwhile, BRO is legit scummy, at best he's liability town, at worst he's scum blatantly rolefishing and getting away with it. Cephrir's lack of BRO vote is strange since he's scumreading him. It reeks of distancing without having the testicles to bus him.

Bulba wagon is fine, I've said already I think calcifer is town, and dram is obviously town, so this wagon is clean imo.

Ok so having seen the VC, I like cephrir and zdenek even less than I did before, and metal sonic and orc need to be looked at. kingcrab and TSO are people I need to ISO.

[The Goat]

Responding to prod. I'm on vacation, but that means I'll be able to post more, not less.

[The Goat]

Does Shadi always play passive-aggressively? Because its making my scumdar twitch a little.

[Shadi1337]

Does Shadi always play passive-aggressively? Because its making my scumdar twitch a little.

Well I'm not sure. Thinking about it I fit in that category but let's see what the people with meta experience will say I guess..

[Serene]

Calcifer's reaction to his wagon makes them scum more than anything meta related

He's panicking and trying to discredit his wagon.

"No one will pay attention to you if you lynch me because of personal beef?" Scum, please.

[Shadi1337]

Well 1580 was weird to me. I am not gonna directly scream scum at the rest, everyone makes weird posts once in a while. In my case every post

[Serene]

YES YES

You're scummy as town, we get it


The horse is dead, kindly stop beating him Shadi

[ProHawk]

Based on this post? I disagree.

Lets see... you have BRO who unvoted, didn't re-vote despite having other scum-leads, said he was going to read the thread to get a better idea of who to go for... starts fishing around to see exactly how many masons there are which he subsequently gets heat for, then splits to return five days past the point of where he said he was going to re-evaluate the thread with no re-evaluating done... and no, he at least wasn't too busy to be active on-site, so what exactly isn't scummy about that?

[Serene]

Looking at other Nero games I actually feel like he's less useful as town, but I also think he hasn't been very useful here.

WOW - let me parse this word salad, scum.

(1) Nero hasn't been useful in this game.
(2) Nero is less useful as town than scum.
(3) therefore Nero is town
(4) are you fucking kidding me

How do you feel about Calcifer bus'ing you?

well that was pretty uncalled for

I didn't say (3) but it's moved him up somewhat from null for me yeah

Deal with it?

I dealt with it, you're scum, now I'm moving along.

[Serene]

Scum is Stubbs, TMT, Ceprir Calcifer, Nero, probably BFenix...

I mean it's pretty in-your-face obvious.

All we need is some Lynchiagra.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

not cephrir or nero

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Oh yeah and BRO is town probs

[Metal Sonic]

not cephrir or nero

orc <3

[orcinus_theoriginal]

sup ms

i think your posting style is rubbing off on me

[Cephrir]

Cephrir's lack of BRO vote is strange since he's scumreading him. It reeks of distancing without having the testicles to bus him.

Cephrir: Nero is town. His scumgame is far less useful (no I'm serious)

I thought BRO was your favorite lynch

During the early part of the thread. This changes about when I voted Shadi. I saw a couple posts from Bro that could have been town since his massive awkwardness earlygame, and I've seen zero of these from, say, letters. Here's where I'm at now...

Want to lynch: Letters > TSO > Shadi > Bro > Stubbs
Willing to lynch: {Calcifer, Ankamius, Baby Spice, Domo}
I'll look into Nero.

I don't like how the BulbaFenix wagon formed, I should take a look at that.

Nope, try harder. I might as well give this a shot though since I don't think Shadi is going anywhere today.

Unvote, Vote: TMT

[Serene]

not cephrir or nero

I'm so sick of hearing who you all DON'T want to lynch.

You've got the game ass-backwards.

[Serene]

@serene: it's because current site meta is that effort is scummy, meta reads are king, gut reads are useless and everyone is town until proven otherwise. "Scum slips" and tells are prevalent under current meta despite years of study disproving that.

It's all very annoying to an old school player who thirsts for blood.

[Serene]

Some of you have obviously never pushed and pushed a town read only to have them stab you I'm the back at LYLO, removing their black masks to reveal themselves as the scumfucks they were.


One day, you too shall be betrayed, and you will never trust anyone completely again.

[Serene]

And for the record even if Nero were town, he will fuck everyone over if left alive in LYLO




Actually alot of you will fuck us over come LYLO so I guess there's solace in that. Just remember, if you're still alive come day 5 or so, your reads have been shit or your play has been shit.

[ProHawk]

@serene: it's because current site meta is that effort is scummy, meta reads are king, gut reads are useless and everyone is town until proven otherwise. "Scum slips" and tells are prevalent under current meta despite years of study disproving that.

It's all very annoying to an old school player who thirsts for blood.

This is actually really good. Hit the nail on the head.

[Zdenek]

Although I did laugh at calcs attempt to defuse his wagon by calling it a personal grudge perpetrated by some unknown person

So calc is scum after all
Good times.

[BulbaFenix]

Based on this post? I disagree.

Lets see... you have BRO who unvoted, didn't re-vote despite having other scum-leads, said he was going to read the thread to get a better idea of who to go for... starts fishing around to see exactly how many masons there are which he subsequently gets heat for, then splits to return five days past the point of where he said he was going to re-evaluate the thread with no re-evaluating done... and no, he at least wasn't too busy to be active on-site, so what exactly isn't scummy about that?

I'm thinking it's the way the analysis post is worded... But, don't take my word for it. I know he'll respond more in-depth later.

YES YES

You're scummy as town, we get it


The horse is dead, kindly stop beating him Shadi

Yeah Shadi... Leave the horse beating to Serene

StevieT92 (4)- Nero, The Goat, BulbaFenix, StubbsKVM
Calcifer (4)- orcinus_theoriginal, Serene, Zdenek, Metal Sonic
BROseidon (3)- ProHawk, Brian Hollywood, DOMO
Shadi1337 (3)- T S O, Cephrir, KingCrabd
BulbaFenix (2)- dramonic, Calcifer

Ok then let's analyse the VC.

Stevie wagon makes some sense. He's not my preferred lynch, but I can see why he's getting votes. Those on his wagon don't lose or gain town points for voting for him.

Calcifer wagon makes no sense to me. It seems like it's purely based on nacho meta. It's day one of a big game, nacho is less dominant head of hydra, a meta lynch is weak imo. Those on his wagon lose town points. Except serene, obviously. Serene is just awful. Orc isn't awful, so I'm starting to get concerned about him, but I'm more concerned about the others on this wagon, zdenek in particular.

BRO wagon is good, those on it get +town points from me.

Shadi wagon is iffy, I'm gonna ISO TSO and kingcrab shortly. As for cephrir, well he has BRO as a scumread if I recall correctly, yet he's voting for shadi. Forgive me if I've missed something, but from what I read of shadi's ISO earlier, he's either town working his ass off to find scum, or scum working his ass off to look like town. I don't see a great deal of scumminess in shadi's posts. Meanwhile, BRO is legit scummy, at best he's liability town, at worst he's scum blatantly rolefishing and getting away with it. Cephrir's lack of BRO vote is strange since he's scumreading him. It reeks of distancing without having the testicles to bus him.

Bulba wagon is fine, I've said already I think calcifer is town, and dram is obviously town, so this wagon is clean imo.

Ok so having seen the VC, I like cephrir and zdenek even less than I did before, and metal sonic and orc need to be looked at. kingcrab and TSO are people I need to ISO.

What is your analysis on the players who aren't voting, Domo?

-Fenix

[Rift Adrift]

not cephrir or nero

I'm so sick of hearing who you all DON'T want to lynch.

You've got the game ass-backwards.

Then maybe you could focus on reaching some consensus with players who

are

talking about who they want to lynch.

Syr and I are in conclave atm. Something resembling a wall could be in the offing.