Newbie 1393 Game Over

[mvmafia]

Let's see some reads.

Dessew

There hasn't been enough activity to have complete reads. Your actions have been the most pro-town so far because you wanted to start discussions a few times (it's the third attempt). Smudger hasn't given a decent answer to his wagon, it really annoys me. But so far there have been no scummy nor townish behaviour. (Or I'm just lame)

yes this is a contradition. Considering also #41, scum cant be Pro-town at this specific game.

Because you have been the most active player and it is pro-town imho. Yet, this is the first real discussion of the game, all we have had are random votes, random questions and a wgon with a very stupid outcome.

the most active player at start isnt allways town or pro-town. This means nothing. Considering this is a newbie game nts might have wanted to create some conversation going and game flowing. so it could be town or scum. his atitude means nothing for me. He also can use his activity to pull wagons on townies.

Actual Read: Confusing town tendency.

Smudger

... Activity levels should not be used just to gauge a players' alignment as there are some very confident players who can be either town or scum and maintain very a very active presence in a thread. That said though, it would is again have to be judge against each of you and your experience, therefore IMO Desew looks the more suspicious primarily because of the backtracking, but this could be attributed to a lack of experience?

agreed.

Actual Read: town.

Z7

Scummy move from

Feel It

to ask (#46) why we don't want to put people to L-1 in random voting phase. Might not be dangerous in other games but in newbie games a new player might hammer recardless of aliagment. This could mess up the whole game.

Agreed.

There really isn't clear line to be drawn where scum part begins in scumometer (tm) because there is no way of telling peoples alignments before slip. It just ranks people based on how scummy they seem to me. Notscience is a hard case for me because on the other hand he have shown some scumtells but on the other he have been acting like town.

Hey i'm posting something. jibber jabber...


Actual Read: scum tendency

hCynical

In regards to activity correlating to alignment, just because someone posts frequently doesn't make them good or bad. In fact, someone who is town could post a lot of bad information and have that be potentially more dangerous to us in the long run.

Hm... Interesting point of view but i still want to know what do you consider "lof of bad information" from town that would justify a town lynch.

Actual Read: town tendency

notscience

Lots of RQS and pushing at people. Trying to look active town scum hunting during rvs and rqs.

hm... weird how he behaved against the wagon on him. He got real mad from 65 to 73. Dont rly like players that act like this during mafia games.

Yo mvm, you have anything to actually say about this game or do you plan to ride our curttails/lurk your way to your scum wincon? He's posting other places, why not here?

sorry. Back now.

Actual Read: null

DDDP

Still dont get why he voted on Z7 at 89.

Also trying to sheep ppl on a wagon Z7 at 96.

I don't know what to say about DDDP, the way he tried to get votes to the Z7-wagon is funny but maybe it's not even worth noting.

You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little fucked up maybe, but I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to fuckin' amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?

Wtf was that ?

I'd in fact say it's a town attribute not to be wedded to one's stances. The real dodgy part is where he blatently solicitates for other's views; isntead of taking a stance himself he's probing things to see if he can get away with a move there.

You got a case on me. Its a big irony of yours saying people should have their own views themselves considering you tried to sheep people on #89 and #96

Actual Read: scum

Feel It

Safe looking player. Posts few and precise.

Actual Read: town tendency

[mvmafia]

Considering my actual game read.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: DDDP

[FuDuzn]

*cough* Hello? I am in this game as well right?

Also, so part of your reasoning to vote DDDP is him quoting Goodfellas?

[HopefullyCynical]

MVM, it would vary from situation, but I was just cautioning people to not trust a player based solely on the amount of times they post.

notscience, if you post less about how dead the game is and make your posts worthwhile the game wouldn't be so "dead".

[Dessew]

mvmafia:

I used these words in these meanings:

Get it?
I know you were V/LA but it lasted only till Saturday and it's Tuesday now, you had a couple of days to read this thread. Yet your reads seem to be based on early posts almost exclusively.

*Cough* Hello? I asked you something, FuDuzn, right?

I haven't seen Goodfellas yet, it looks interesting.

[Z7-852]

Little quiet night (again). At least

mvmafia

posted his summary (#200) on reads. There really wasn't lot of original stuff in them though. Most of the reads were quite empty. Especially I don't understand how he placed me as a scum because of one quote and view that had nothing to do with the quote. He also left FuDuzn out of his reads and didn't give them even after asked (#202). In summary his post had quite lot of meaningless quotes and less content. Nothing that would chance my stance on any player.

Also early warning. I will be

V/LA from Friday till Monday

.

Scumometer (tm)
HopefullyCynical < Dessew < FuDuzn < notscience < DDDP < Smudger < Feel It < mvmafia

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

*cough* Hello? I am in this game as well right?

Also, so part of your reasoning to vote DDDP is him quoting Goodfellas?

Don't forget the part where I get accussed of sheeping despite asking people to vote with me and not moving my vote to vote with other people.

[Z7-852]

It clearly seems that mvmafia is scraping the bottom of the barrel to get these arguments. They are from early game and most of them aren't even true.

[notscience]

One guy can only do so much.

MVM isn't doing much to make me want to keep him.

[Feel It]

Yeah, he's gonna be lynched.

[Smudger]

Will comment on my latest read tomorrow am off to sleep now

[FuDuzn]

Dessew, about your 204......what did I miss that you asked me?

[Dessew]

Fu:

Well, in #150 you stated that mvm is your no. 2 townread. I asked you about your argument.

Z7:

I know it's not fair but let me guess: mvm didn't give his read about FuDuzn because there isn't enough content to have one.

[HopefullyCynical]

With two days until deadline, I think we should place our votes to avoid a no lynch. I'm keeping mine on MVM. Things will pick up once night time rolls around.

[notscience]

Yo MVM, best if you probably claim ASAP because you keep vanishing, and if we end up MLing a PR because of that I'm going to be pissed.

P sure he's scum, but not voting until we get conf he's not.

[mvmafia]

*cough* Hello? I am in this game as well right?

Also, so part of your reasoning to vote DDDP is him quoting Goodfellas?

Do you agree with a goodfellas quote explaining why he wanted to build a wagon on someone ?

[mvmafia]

mvmafia:

I used these words in these meanings:

Get it?
I know you were V/LA but it lasted only till Saturday and it's Tuesday now, you had a couple of days to read this thread. Yet your reads seem to be based on early posts almost exclusively.

Later reads go on nts opinion that you guys should vote me because i was inactive.

[mvmafia]

It clearly seems that mvmafia is scraping the bottom of the barrel to get these arguments. They are from early game and most of them aren't even true.

If i said any lie you have the chance to get me on a contradiction like nts did with dessew right ? Why didnt you do that yet ?

[notscience]

We have no activity, no way to find scum. Today's the day to lynch an inactive if any, especially when what you've done when you've been here is hypocritical and fluff.

[mvmafia]

Its hard for me to revert the cenary because i had to go VLA for a whole week and there's only 3 days to deadline.

But I'm sure there's some scum at this wagon on me.

My top scum reads atm are DDDP and Z7. Nts is null yet.

I just left my reads so you guys can agree with what i could see during day 1.

Dont you guys think Z7 and DDDP look scumier than me ? With what did DDDP contribute to town ? Z7 is a contradiction himself. look at #205 Why does he think i'm lying ?

I gave my explanations and i'm up to explain anything else you guys think i should. But also think Z7 and DDDP should give some answers to my reads too.

[FuDuzn]

*cough* Hello? I am in this game as well right?

Also, so part of your reasoning to vote DDDP is him quoting Goodfellas?

Do you agree with a goodfellas quote explaining why he wanted to build a wagon on someone ?

I thought he was just making a jokey sort of post using the Goodfellas quote.

And I am with you on Z7 mvm, but since I wasn't explicit in asking you before........why did you vote me when you came back from vla? That is the one thing that is making me doubt you.

[FuDuzn]

Fu:

Well, in #150 you stated that mvm is your no. 2 townread. I asked you about your argument.

Z7:

I know it's not fair but let me guess: mvm didn't give his read about FuDuzn because there isn't enough content to have one.

Well tbf Dessew, I don't think I have him there anymore. After looking at his vote on me I am starting to agree with the argument against him, I just can't think of much of a town reasoning behind that vote.

[Feel It]

Will not be able to post for today, maybe tomorrow as well. I agree with notscience that if we are gonna lynch a lurker we might as well do it today rather than later and mvm seems to be the most accepted lynch, nobody really stuck out for me today so I'm fine with that.

[Z7-852]

We have had quite decent amount of interaction on the first day. After lynch we will have flip and (hopefully useful) night actions. With these we will have moderate chance of scum hunting next day. I will look closer to DDDP if mvmafia flips town like he (#219) suggested. DDDP has unfortunately had quite little of interaction with other players and nothing that's really poking out.

Scumometer (tm)
HopefullyCynical < Dessew < FuDuzn < notscience < DDDP < Smudger < Feel It < mvmafia

[Dessew]

lol, I don't know why I adressed half of my last post to Z7.
Fu: ok, but you stated it in post 150, I'd like to hear what was townish about him before that.
I'm gonna place my vote on mvm as soon as I've read Smudger's post he promised in #210.