The Red Wedding - The Goose is Loose

[KillerApple]

Screw it. I want MS dead.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Metal Sonic

[Nexus]

When was the last time a Dayvig was actually a real thing and it was public? I'm struggling to remember.

Need to look at the reactions, but anyone saying MS has to be scum is probably stupid. Bad, yes, scum, i'd say not.

[ChannelDelibird]

I just want him to die ;_;

UNVOTE: Metal Sonic
VOTE: Tamuz

[macmollie]

@ nacho

no. just no. you never dismantled my scum read on you. you would have to be town in order to do that.

@ ankimius

so you us down as scum cos....you think we made an awkward accusation? lol

@ metal

I asked you a question and I would like an answer tia

Ugh. MS isn't totally cleared yet, but that was a town move no matter how stupid you think it was. He probably is a dayvig and realized he would have to do something before he got lynched. At least he showed us his reason before he did it. It did look a little opportunistic, despite both wagons looking like scum.

Besides, I looked at some other games, and MS plays like this all the time. So it looks like I'm just going to have to deal with it

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UNVOTE: Unvote

Anyway, Tierce, I think I see where you're coming from. I didn't even notice it before because I was relieved that he unvoted, but that was a quick transition. Too quick. It looks like he wanted to hop on the wagon, but decided it would make him look more town if he hopped off. I don't know how he usually plays, but I think he would be doing a little more scumhunting if he were town, instead of just showing up every once in awhile to make evasive votes. The vote on Dekes, for example, is not helping anyone. It really kills me to do this

VOTE: Nacho

wrt the bold: what other games? he was in a newbie game and the voided temple game in which he was a hydra. <----- I didn't see acting like this in either of those. so wtf are you talking about.

FOS THE SHIT OUT OF THIS

unimpressed with av's catch up.

@ bro

what about anki's reaction did you not like? I thought it was meh

@ amrun

do you mean to tell me that you have not seen someone fake a day vig kill before? I thought fake claiming was a huge fad on this site I mean I have seen it 3 times and I think it is dumb as shit cos it muddies the waters just causes a bunch of noise. I agree that metal should not be auto town read for it.

@ nexus

did you ever post a list of your reads I can't remember



waiting to talk to mac before I post a wall of our thoughts

[Ankamius]

AurorusVox: All my early posts were jokes. I did not seriously claim to be Robert and I didn't soft claim to be Robb either.

[Amrun]

Of course I've seen people fakeclaim a dayvig. I never implied that I hadn't...?

CDB, why the fuck did you unvote?

[ChannelDelibird]

I want to lynch someone whom I'm more confident is scum. I want Metal Sonic to be brutally and unrepentantly vigged. That was always the plan, really. Only reason I voted him in the first place was because KillerApple looked more town and I was getting annoyed.

[Nexus]

No. I'm not going to either, because I don't do reads list.

[BROseidon]

@macmollie: Looks like Ank potentially trying to push an easy mislynch onto what would be from scum-Ank's perspective a confirmed town PR.

[macmollie]

@ amrun

if you have seen the gambit before why did you not consider that possibility? I guess I am just surprised by your reaction I mean I don't even blink when I see it nowadays. I still have you down as town though.

@ nexus

the only people who avoid providing lists when asked are either scum or stupid/stubborn town. thinking the latter. I was hoping to be able to work with you but I guess not

@ bro

what else do you got

[Nexus]

Well, I don't see why I should change my style of play just to suit you so.

I can, if you are really desperate, give you a list of 3 town imo and then a vague idea of scum, but I haven't got enough scum reads solidified yet.

[Nexus]

That is also my usual solution to people whining about wanting reads - i'll do a minor compromise.

[BROseidon]

Not much right now. I liked Nexus's reaction and KA's was meh. Going to read the 10 pages I missed over the weekend.

[Andrius]

NOTICE

Desperado

replaces

Tamuz

effective now.
Deadline extension available upon request.

[Desperado]

Really excited that Andrius needed a replacement.

I had planned on keeping up with this game but haven't been able to. Summary please?

[ChannelDelibird]

Summary

[ChannelDelibird]

UNVOTE: Desperado
VOTE: Venmar

Gonna reread some things.

[macmollie]

That is also my usual solution to people whining about wanting reads - i'll do a minor compromise.

ty cos if something happens to you in the night round I am going to be working from that list.


okay so here is why I wanna lynch apple. I don't believe her when she says she read metal's previous games. it isn't in his wiki and I had to dig pretty hard through his posts in order to pull up 2 games, 1 in which he was scum and the other was a hydra and was town. this is nothing like his scum game so instead of saying, "he does this all of the time so he is probably town" if she read those games it should have been "well he was scum in the game I read and here is acting totally different". not to mention apple said earlier in the game she is still getting used to this site but she knows it well enough to do a hard to do meta-dive?

fuck that shit I think she is lying and is scum. unless metal can cough up some more completed games that is prolly where our vote will wind up.

[Nexus]

town - tierce, cdb, dekes

scum - probably KA, venmar and idk

[Generic]

I did say metal sonic is bullshitting. He is exhibiting all the obvious tells of a person panicking and trying to mask it with bravado.

Call enough people names and hope to bully your way out of the shit. Epic fail.

[Ankamius]

@macmollie: Looks like Ank potentially trying to push an easy mislynch onto what would be from scum-Ank's perspective a confirmed town PR.

If that kill had been real, then it would have been a horrific person to use it on. There was so much scum on that move that it was leaking out of his face. Also, I immediately assumed it would be a one-shot thing since I don't see how anything else would work (MAYBE 2-shot... maybe), so that doesn't even make sense. He also confirmed one-shot, if he's telling the truth.

Although, now that I think about it, the gambit in general was awful.

He immediately tried to pass it off as him being confirmed town with that claim, which immediately sets off alarm bells in my head.
He basically based his entire reason for choosing Amrun as being one of the three people who was on the KA wagon (which he never left, by the way) and later moved to voting him. He obviously agreed with KA being scum (because otherwise why would have have been voting for him for other half the game and STILL be voting him?), so his entire logic train is based on voting him. As an addition to this, he chose the one person who moved off a big wagon to start a new one, while the other two were in the last 3 slots in both.
He looks to be claiming to still be a daykiller.

The timing and target of the daykill was just straight up bad. His actions around it are straight up bad. I'm not seeing MS trying to help town, I see him trying desperately as scum to save himself from being lynched. Trying to look confirmed town is obviously what he's going for.

[KillerApple]

Ank, why not vote for MS then? I know you still have your vote on me, but at least I tried to stop being a VI and help unlike MS.

@macmollie- Not completed games. He's in a few other games right now, and he has the same crappy attitude. I want a PL on him.

[Ankamius]

Because my current vote makes me feel all tingly inside.

Also, I don't really like switching votes between significant scum reads because of helpfulness. It doesn't matter which one is more helpful; you're both probably scum anyway.

[Amrun]

@ amrun

if you have seen the gambit before why did you not consider that possibility? I guess I am just surprised by your reaction I mean I don't even blink when I see it nowadays. I still have you down as town though.

@ nexus

the only people who avoid providing lists when asked are either scum or stupid/stubborn town. thinking the latter. I was hoping to be able to work with you but I guess not

@ bro

what else do you got

I did consider it? I even talked about it in my post... I told him not to unvig me to force him to prove or disprove his ability because I doubted it. I specifically said I doubted it. Not sure how it could have been missed.

[macmollie]

Ank, why not vote for MS then? I know you still have your vote on me, but at least I tried to stop being a VI and help unlike MS.

@macmollie- Not completed games. He's in a few other games right now, and he has the same crappy attitude. I want a PL on him.

he is in other games. he is still alive in all of them and you are in none of them.

so why were you going meta-diving in ongoing games where you don't know his alignment?

also even looking at his posting history I can pretty much tell you that his reaction in this game was a lot more excessive than anything in his posting history. so where are you seeing the "same crappy attitude".

fuck it I am not even going to wait for mac. you are lying about looking up his other games and you have been caught and you are scum.

seriously guys, let's fucking do this.

VOTE: killer apple