Mini 1451: A Memory of Light (Game Over)

[Iecerint]

Demon

– Rand Al’Thor – Roleblocker, 1 shot Dreamwalk, 1 shot Lightning Rod
Night 1 – Dreamwalked (with Mara and Ghost, but kept silent)

Wait wait wait this is inconsistent with what Mara said about N1 on D2 IIRC.

Mara said that the 3rd person was trying to determine their identities or something.

Or do you just mean that he kept silent until D3?

[sword_of_omens]

Also, something that stood out is that Selkies says she failed on ThAd N1 due to him commuting..
ThAd’s “commute” only works in that it blocks all OP from touching him (that would be the “modified commuter” part of it) because the medallion wouldn't stop physical things..only the OP.

Matrim Cauthon. My commute power is "foxhead medallion". I was told it grew cold against my chest last night, which is how I know I was targeted by at least one one power ability.

The foxhead medallion protects me, which is the "commuter" effect. I don't know why he chose to call me modified commuter and not something else like "self-protecting medallion guy", but that is between you and cephrir.

Dreaming would have nothing to do with the OP as there are Aiel who can dreamwalk seamlessly without any ability to channel. So Selkies should have been able to target ThAd..

Gonna go back and re-read a few things as there was also something else about Iece that was bugging me as well...


PEDIT: yes, i meant he did not tell anyone he had dreamwalked, until much later, when force-claimed...

[Selkies]

I went back to check the PM from the mod about our night one action. We were told that we tried to dream about ThAd but couldn't. We assumed the fail was due to his commuting, but hell if I understand the flavor reasons why dreaming about him would or woudln't fail.

[GoodCop_BadCop]

ThAdmiral, Mat Cauthon, Town 1-shot Modified Reflexive Commuter 1-shot Nexus, lynched Day 2.

I assume the "nexus" part would have re-directed you, if I'm reading the wiki entry on it correctly. But it should have pushed you onto another player at random, unless the mechanic here is different than a standard nexus.

[Selkies]

We had no dream results about anybody on night 1, so I don't see how it could be a nexus effect.

[GoodCop_BadCop]

putting this here for easy(ish) reference:

Selkies

- Egwene Al'Vere – Dreamer (Ability Finder)
Night 1 – Dreamed about ThAd (missed) / rec'd A'dam from SoO

MsMarangal

- Nynaeve Al'Mere - Doctor
Night 1 – Dreamwalked (with Ghostlin and Demon)

Demon

– Rand Al’Thor – Roleblocker, 1 shot Dreamwalk, 1 shot Lightning Rod
Night 1 – Dreamwalked (with Mara and Ghost, but kept silent)

Three players were dreamwalking therefore the nexus may have sent you to one of them.

[Selkies]

This game makes my head hurt. Would he have to specify that action to use the nexus on n1?

My night actions were either/or. But they're both also volitional, as was choosing to use the A'Dam.

[GoodCop_BadCop]

A Nexus is a player that passively redirects players who target it to a random other player.

Key word there I think is passively.

[Selkies]

That could be one loose end accounted for then.

[sword_of_omens]

in case this was missed:
[quote="In post 1446, Nero, do you die if you successfully block a kill?
Also..why did you target me on N2?[/quote]


@Mara - do you still have access to the Dream QT from N1? i know you can't post there, but are you allowed to read from it still?

[sword_of_omens]

tag fail...

in case this was missed:

Nero, do you die if you successfully block a kill?
Also..why did you target me on N2?

@Mara - do you still have access to the Dream QT from N1? i know you can't post there, but are you allowed to read from it still?

[Nero Cain]

no
I figured you were prob town.

[Ms Marangal]

no
I figured you were prob town.

what?

he wasn't talking to you, why would you answer his question about the Dream-walking?

also, swords yes. I can still read the QT, I still have access to it though I don't think I'm allowed to say anything specific about it

[Nero Cain]

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Free town points to anyone that tells me why this post blows.

last vote count shows me not voting so

vote: Mara

help me lynch scum, SOO.

[Ms Marangal]

What?

did you, or did you not just answer the question Swords was asking me?

[Nero Cain]

no I didn't. I answered the questions that SOO asked me you scummy lil' pineapple. I think you were being intentionally dense here.

[Ms Marangal]

oh...

Wait wat?

You

don't

die if you successfully block a kill?

Seriously?

a body-guard who doesn't die when he successfully blocks a kill? That's a bull-shit claim Nero, and not something a body-guard does. That's essentially a Doctor claim.

VOTE: Nero

[Cephrir]

Vote Count 3.4

Demon 3

(Iecerint, Selkies, GoodCop_BadCop)

Ms Marangal 1

(Nero Cain)

Nero Cain 1

(Ms Marangal)

Not Voting 3

(Demon, sword_of_omens, Belisarius)

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline for Day 3 will be Monday, July 8th, 11:59 PM.

[sword_of_omens]

help me lynch scum, SOO.

I’m, trying to do that…need to figure you out first, though…

I figured you were prob town.

What seemed to change your mind on me? As i was pretty high up on your list of suspects...
Also, I’m pretty sure you were still town reading Mara at the time? You can see how your choice of me seems strange, right?


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also, swords yes. I can still read the QT, I still have access to it though I don't think I'm allowed to say anything specific about it

You can talk about it, you just can't quote from it....
What type of questions did demon ask you guys…and what did he tell you about himself?




So 2 full-fledged doctors, huh?

[Nero Cain]

dat OMGUS.

Mara

lies

about me answering a question that was directed at her and then doesn't say "well I goofed/misread etc." which means she was lying on purpose.

Then she OMGUSLY votes me. My role is listed as modified bodyguard. When I first claimed I didn't claim modified 'cause I dunno, I wanted to try and fool scum some kinda way and then when SOO asked me I figured well, I figured if I did block a kill and then didn't die it might be too suspicious for town. Thought I DO eventully die, at the end of the next dayphase but I don't die immediately.

Which actually brings up a good question. How did you know to ask me that, SOO?

[Nero Cain]

What seemed to change your mind on me? As i was pretty high up on your list of suspects...
Also, I’m pretty sure you were still town reading Mara at the time? You can see how your choice of me seems strange, right?

I don't exactly trust anyone in this game. It seemed like everyone but me was scumreading Mara so it made me doubt my townread. It looked like Mara was going to be lynchable and I don't think scum would shoot at that. I also felt like you were a town read for the majority soI figured that protecting you had a better chance of stopping the kill.

[sword_of_omens]

nice deflect Nero...
like I said, I was trying to figure this shit out… I actually think Mara is likely scum (which I’ll get into shortly) but wanted to be sure about you and your role, because your targets don’t make sense to me…But not claiming “modified” because you wanted to trip us scum somehow? What does that even mean? How would that trip up scum? First you claim body guard…Then you say No you don’t die…Then you say that actually, you do die, but not til later?

now please answer my damn question on how you came to the conclusion that I was probably town and decided to doc me, when you had me as a scum read and Mara (a claimed doc ) as a town read?


@Mara – answer my other question to you as well, please…

PEDIT: thank you....

[GoodCop_BadCop]

Woah woah woah wait a second. Something here isn’t adding up at all.

Okay, so if we take you at face value, nero:
You’re a body guard with a delayed death should your protect be successful. Essentially, a bodyguard but with a bit of extra power. Is this correct?

But you didn’t claim day one when mara claimed doc. Nor did you claim D2 when she lived through the night. But day three, during massclaim, you claim bodyguard but not your exact role until you get pushed on. First you’re a bodyguard, then a doc (bodyguard that won’t die is a doc folks) then modified bodyguard. This worries me greatly.

Nero, can you clarify with more detail exactly why you chose to wait until D3 to claim?

[Nero Cain]

nice deflect Nero...

When did I deflect?

But not claiming “modified” because you wanted to trip

us

scum somehow? What does that even mean? How would that trip up scum? First you claim body guard…Then you say No you don’t die…Then you say that actually, you do die, but not til later?

Us scum?

I just think it would be funny if I was alive the next day.

From my prospective, if I had claimed that I died and didn't die if I blocked a kill then ya'll would be all up in arms. So I choose to tell the truth and claim that I don't die if I block a kill...'cause I don't and by the time I die at the end of the next day, it'll be a non-issue.

now please answer my damn question on how you came to the conclusion that I was probably town and decided to doc me, when you had me as a scum read and Mara (a claimed doc ) as a town read?

I did but obviously my read on Mar was wavering hence my vote this game (and for some reason my first vote on Mara didn't count) I don't understand if you are now so concerned about my not town read on Mara, why did you not call me out when I first attacked Mara at the beginning of the day?

What prompted you to ask me the question about weather I live or die? It almost looks to me like you knew my role.

[Nero Cain]

You’re a body guard with a delayed death should your protect be successful. Essentially, a bodyguard but with a bit of extra power. Is this correct?

yes

But you didn’t claim day one when mara claimed doc. Nor did you claim D2 when she lived through the night. But day three, during massclaim, you claim bodyguard but not your exact role until you get pushed on. First you’re a bodyguard, then a doc (bodyguard that won’t die is a doc folks) then modified bodyguard. This worries me greatly.

Nero, can you clarify with more detail exactly why you chose to wait until D3 to claim?

'cause there wasn't a reason to claim? I already specifically stated that a claim from me would nothing but more then outguessing the mod which is something that I'm not interested in. Why do you think that I didn't protect Mara night 2? There's reason for scum to not kill certain roles 'cause it creates a lot of WIFOM.

I never claimed Doc. I told the truth b/c I DON'T die that night like a normal BG.

Why do you think that SOO would know to ask me about that?