Mini 1464 - Game Over

[mvmafia]

wow lots of to read i've got to catch up here.

MD on L-1 claiming doctor so soon ? strange.

Is there scum at his wagon ?

Gotta read pitoli too. She just jumped at my random vote under pressure.

[Haschel Cedricson]

wow lots of to read i've got to catch up here.

MD on L-1 claiming doctor so soon ? strange.

Is there scum at his wagon ?

What do you find strange about it? And what do you think the answer to your latter question is?

Gotta read pitoli too. She just jumped at my random vote under pressure.

While pitoli may have been under pressure at the time, your random vote was horrible and I too would like an explanation.

[Toomai]

Toomai, you are nuts. I've been advocating the pitoli-mnemonic team since PAGE 2!!!!! That is far from "kinda warning us in advance".

I'm talking about your vote, not your reads. Nothing really happened with mnemonicdevice between your vote and your previous post other than people saying "he's not saying anything". Even though you said before you might change vote, it felt opportunistic to do so with no given reason right after someone else did.

I think the Doctor claim is null to be honest. Under the "new player" argument, either he's town taking the "get to L-1, claim" philosophy seriously, or a more experienced scumbuddy suggested "if you get rung up day 1, claim Doctor" (I've seen this in pregame scumchats before).

[2birds1stone]

This is only my second game, and since I didn't play scum in my first game, I did not realize that scum don't usually have daytalk. Sorry about that.

Nope.

Not buying this at all.

I don't believe that someone who had read the wiki or listened to their IC would jump to the assumption that daychat is the norm.

"did not realize that scum don't usually have daytalk" reads to me as "I have daytalk and did not realize it is not the norm".

L-1 doc claim makes a degree of sense given daychat.

Ugh, I don't really want to risk hammering a doc.

I'm not reading the thread, but didn't someone suggest a plausible mnemonic partner? Wouldn't mind wagoning them to test the waters.

*rereads*

Unvote
Vote: Pitoli

[mvmafia]

What do you find strange about it? And what do you think the answer to your latter question is?

1. Claiming doc at d-1 probably wont convince. Gotta read more back to talk about (will do this soon).
2. I think probably yes. Mainly if we lynch him and he flips doc.

[Haschel Cedricson]

2. I think probably yes. Mainly if we lynch him and he flips doc.

That's some hard-hitting analysis right there, chief.

I'm asking what you think NOW, before we know the flip.

Also, did you know if you highlight part of a post and press the quote button, only the part that you highlighted will be quoted?

[MonkeyMan576]

Toomai, you are nuts. I've been advocating the pitoli-mnemonic team since PAGE 2!!!!! That is far from "kinda warning us in advance".

I'm talking about your vote, not your reads. Nothing really happened with mnemonicdevice between your vote and your previous post other than people saying "he's not saying anything". Even though you said before you might change vote, it felt opportunistic to do so with no given reason right after someone else did.

I think the Doctor claim is null to be honest. Under the "new player" argument, either he's town taking the "get to L-1, claim" philosophy seriously, or a more experienced scumbuddy suggested "if you get rung up day 1, claim Doctor" (I've seen this in pregame scumchats before).

I vote because of my reads. If you can't see the relationship you should be playing another game.

[Ankamius]

Vote Count 1.6

pitoli (4)

- N64Lord, Captain Corporal, MonkeyMan576, 2birds1stone

Feel It (2)

- mvmafia, Pitoli

mnemonicdevice (2)

- Haschel Cedricson, Daemon385

Monkeyman576 (1)

- Toomai

Zhero (1)

- mnemonicdevice
2birds1stone -
Captain Corporal -
Daemon385 -
Haschel Cedricson -
mvmafia -
N64Lord -
Toomai -

Not Voting (2): Feel It, Zhero

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is (expired on 2013-07-14 23:00:00) from now.

NOTE: I am making a slight wording alteration to Rule 3.5: "You will lose your eligibility for prods until 72 hours after your V/LA ends." will be changed to "The Prod Timer will be ignored for the duration and will be reset once the V/LA is over." This will hopefully make it more clear, since the original was worded poorly.

Prodding:

N64Lord

Replacing: N/A

[mvmafia]

sorry for that mod. can you please reaplce me ? I'm being dead weight and cant read this atm. Thanks.

[Ankamius]

Note: mvmafia is being replaced.

[Ankamius]

Note: NicCage replaces mvmafia starting immediately.

[NicCage]

Nice, and I just finished skimming. I liked the Burma Shave thing, I was like where's he going with this OOOOH!
I wouldn't have known what you were talking about if I hadn't been to Az this year.

There will be a real post

[Daemon385]

Soooo....we meet again. Haha no just kidding welcome Nic

[Feel It]

Will be gone for a day, maybe 2 but no longer guys.

[Toomai]

I don't believe that someone who had read the wiki or listened to their IC would jump to the assumption that daychat is the norm.

"did not realize that scum don't usually have daytalk" reads to me as "I have daytalk and did not realize it is not the norm".

L-1 doc claim makes a degree of sense given daychat.

I'm mostly agreeing with this but not convinced enough to revote.

Vote: pitoli

because I think my vote will be more useful there for now.

[N64Lord]

I find the combination of mmnemoic claiming doctor, pleading newness, assuming day chat, and taking a neutral stance on the other players, to be very scummy. I'm not going to vote her on the case that the claim seems openly counterproductive to a scum-mnemoic: the wagon wasn't based on her posts and town would not have ended d1 so early.

If it was a fakeclaim, I'm of the opinion that doc shouldn't cc; if MD's alive D2 we'll have some difficult questions for him.

Pitoli fence-sits again! I never understand the logic of this, since an experienced player(scum or town) can get a pretty good idea of who's lynch will go through based on who's been drawn into the discussion, why assume that town will be entirely random and go either way on a whim? If a town believes a PRclaim, they should think that the person won't be lynched, and its possible to tell a fakecllaim by posts other than the claim itself. Pitoli has been overly self-aware in her longer posts, and her questions to individuals, all basically ask people to vomit up an opinion on something that has little importance to the main topic of discussion(the current wagons). VOTE: Pitoli

[pitoli]

Hey guys, it's nice to know you were so productive while I was away. To make a long story short, I started a new job this week and life is overall a hectic clusterfuck right now, and so I'm dropping half my games.

People to look at on my wagon are N64 and Toomai as their votes are rather opportunistic, blending into the rest of the pack. Feelit is still scummy to me and I regret I couldn't pressure him more. Haschel also needs a second look as he has steered clear of my lynch.
I think I believe the MD claim. 2birds and Captain are townish.
Anyways good luck! and sorry again.

[Ankamius]

Note: pitoli is being replaced.

[NicCage]

Judging by the join date, Pitoli is more experienced than MD, if they are on the same scum team, it could be some type of coaching.

Unvote:
Vote: Pitoli

Heyyyyy theerrreeee! Hopefully this games goes a lot better for me than the last one!

Alright well mne looks like scum big time, we'll start with that. I kind of skimmed his posts in that newbie game he posted and he was a pretty bad player in that game, getting lynched as town D1. I

would

say that a noob derping around super hard like that is probably not scum, but that daytalk comment sort of warns me off of that. I can't decide if mne needs to go or not today, I'm leaning toward go today though.

Haschel is a town-lean because his questions and scumhunting feel genuine, though this could be effected by the mne flip.

I don't like Feel It for some reason, which is odd because Columbo is pretty cool. CC bothers me too.

Monkeyman, why do you think that both pitoli and mne are scum together? Also, do you find mne individually scummy and why?

Imma leave my vote where it's at until I find a better place to put it.

[MonkeyMan576]

Judging by the join date, Pitoli is more experienced than MD, if they are on the same scum team, it could be some type of coaching.

Unvote:
Vote: Pitoli

Heyyyyy theerrreeee! Hopefully this games goes a lot better for me than the last one!

Alright well mne looks like scum big time, we'll start with that. I kind of skimmed his posts in that newbie game he posted and he was a pretty bad player in that game, getting lynched as town D1. I

would

say that a noob derping around super hard like that is probably not scum, but that daytalk comment sort of warns me off of that. I can't decide if mne needs to go or not today, I'm leaning toward go today though.

Haschel is a town-lean because his questions and scumhunting feel genuine, though this could be effected by the mne flip.

I don't like Feel It for some reason, which is odd because Columbo is pretty cool. CC bothers me too.

Monkeyman, why do you think that both pitoli and mne are scum together? Also, do you find mne individually scummy and why?

Imma leave my vote where it's at until I find a better place to put it.

My page 2 comment explained that one of pitolis first comments looked like she was answering for him/coaching which is something scum mates do.

[MonkeyMan576]

And yes mnemonic is scummy for reacting badly, his claim is questionable, and the daychat comment...

[2birds1stone]

People to look at on my wagon are N64 and Toomai as their votes are rather opportunistic, blending into the rest of the pack.

N64 reads new more than scum to me.

Not totally sure what I think of Toomai; I certainly don't think he's scummy for getting on your wagon, but he hasn't done anything to convince me he's town since my initial case. That said, I was intentionally overstating early-game suspicions, I'm really not worried about him the same way I am about mnemonic (btw, his he trying to lurk pressure off, or am I just being impatient?)

[Toomai]

[...] I'm really not worried about him the same way I am about mnemonic (btw, his he trying to lurk pressure off, or am I just being impatient?)

The not posting isn't helping his Doctor claim, that's for sure. The tone of his last few posts imply he's just sitting around for his supposed lynch to happen, but he's only at 2 votes now so it doesn't make sense.

[NicCage]

Doesn't the scum having daychat make coaching in-thread useless? That really makes no sense.

[MonkeyMan576]

I don't think she did it on purpose.