Mafia of the Raptured (Game Over!)

[Zdenek]

But you didn't think that Syryana was town yesterday.

[Zdenek]

Sorry that should be, but you didn't think that Katsuki was town yesterday.

[Syryana]

I didn't think she was scum, either. Which meant fery got priority.

[Syryana]

Fery, where the fuck are you? Come talk to me.

[Vi]

~Vote Count L

Katsuki (2) ~ Oversoul, Syryana
Oversoul (1) ~ Katsuki
Syryana (1) ~ Amrun

Not Voting:

fferyllt,

(Amrun,)

sword_of_omens,

(Syryana,)

Zdenek

--With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.
--Deadline is 07:30 EDT on July 5, 2013.

(Only got 3 days left)

[fferyllt]

Fery, where the fuck are you? Come talk to me.

O hai!

[Syryana]

So, Katsuki/SOO team. Whatcha think?

[Zdenek]

I didn't think she was scum, either. Which meant fery got priority.

But there was basically no chance she was getting lynched yesterday,

Why do you think that SoO is scum?

[fferyllt]

So you want to talk about who's scum?

Why do you have Oversoul as town and SoO as scum?

Also, fuck you I voted Katsuki yesterday mostly because I listened to you yesterday.

[Syryana]

I didn't think she was scum, either. Which meant fery got priority.

But there was basically no chance she was getting lynched yesterday,

Why do you think that SoO is scum?

POE, largely. You, Amrun, fery are town. Only one of {Katsuki, Oversoul} is scum. I also didn't like his "guys, you should unvote and stuff". Feels like he's reaching for towncred (and he's not actually doing anything else).

So you want to talk about who's scum?

Why do you have Oversoul as town and SoO as scum?

Also, fuck you I voted Katsuki yesterday mostly because I listened to you yesterday.

Sorry. I have Oversoul as town largely because I have Katsuki as scum. Only one of them can be scum IMO. And I think it's Katsuki. See above for SOO scum. Why, are you thinking Oversoul-scum?

[fferyllt]

ATM I don't have a strong opinion about either Oversoul or SoO. I need to do a hard reset, not that my scum reads have been worth shit this game. And I haven't really trusted that my town reads are all that good because I haven't had strong scum reads. Also, the Pjo breadcrumb thing apparently falling apart on day 3 didn't do much for my sense of the game state. Still pretty freaked that I was right about Pjo, but wrong about the lil dashes having anything to do with me or with his role.

I won't be reevaluating strong day 1 town reads again any time soon, though.

[Syryana]

Well, I'm damned certain you and Amrun are town. Slightly less certain of Zdenek, but his recent posting has reassured me anyways. Oversoul I don't think is scum; the main reasons I can recall off the top of my head are "Why would he go to all the effort of trying to get Tierce lynched D3 only to NK her?" and that his play doesn't remind me of his scum play in Xylbot.

That leaves Kat and SOO.

[fferyllt]

I think Tammy's flip all but confirms Zdenek.

I'll have a look at Zylbot tonight.

[fferyllt]

Though I guess that having some sort of godfathery BFF in the game could be a cruel trick. :/

[fferyllt]

I went back to check to be sure who initiated the mass claim discussion. It was Tammy, not Zdenek, so that's a strike against BFF paranoia.

[Syryana]

BFF?

[Syryana]

And why does Tammy's flip confirm Zdenek?

[fferyllt]

BFF?

Best friends - a mason variant that can't talk to each other.

Tammy's role pm indicated Zdenek's character was in the game and suggested he was town iirc. Same in reverse for Zdenek's role pm. Once mass claim happened, they knew who was who.

I may be simplifying this or putting too much credence in the role alignment likelihood, though.

[Oversoul]

I'll get to this tomorrow hopefully

[Zdenek]

BFF?

Best friends - a mason variant that can't talk to each other.

Tammy's role pm indicated Zdenek's character was in the game and suggested he was town iirc. Same in reverse for Zdenek's role pm. Once mass claim happened, they knew who was who.

I may be simplifying this or putting too much credence in the role alignment likelihood, though.

My role pm did not mention Tammy.

The main reason I'm not voting Katsuki is that Tammy's flip confirms me, but not the other way around, and I have a hard time seeing scum-Katsuki wanting me as confirmed town in the game. But I really hate his case on OS, so I don't know.

[Katsuki]

If you hate my case on OS, just read his posts and decide for yourself then.

My case is mostly that his case on me and posts regarding me this game have been extraordinarily selective, which Tammy also pointed out. I dunno, it reads transparently scum to me but I have the benefit of knowing my role so.

I won't even start on how retarded these NKs would be if I were scum. And my scum play is by far stronger than my town play.

[Vi]

~Vote Count LI

Katsuki (2) ~ Oversoul, Syryana
Oversoul (1) ~ Katsuki
Syryana (1) ~ Amrun

Not Voting:

fferyllt, sword_of_omens, Zdenek

--With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.
--Deadline is 07:30 EDT on July 5, 2013.

(Only got 2 days left)

[Zdenek]

I saw this

@oversoul: And yet you are not voting for poo.

And yet I was until he claimed.
And yet I realized the implications of the wording of his role before you or Katsuki.
And yet I unvoted at that time.
And yet you can't read.

Or at least don't like to.

All you did was" I need to think about this".

Explain your unvote since you already 'realized' the implications of the wording and you think the correct action was to lynch him.

and realized that Oversoul is probably scum.

Enomis is exactly right. Oversoul's unvote makes absolutely no sense in this context.

Other points about OS on day 1.
Oversoul's 253 ignores everything that is going on at the time. Pjo had started trolling me and SoO, and Whimsy was at L-1/L-2.
In fairness, his vote was on Whimsy, but his vote there in a post where he didn't comment on Whimsy at all.

There's also the post where Oversoul asked Matt and Tierce to kiss and make-up. Up until then, he thought Matt was town, but criticized Tierce for pushing a bad argument against Zach, and was suspicious of her for how her interaction with Zach ended. I think asking them to kiss and make-up is something that one would say to town reads that are fighting, not to a town-read and to a someone who's other interactions you have found questionable.

[Amrun]

Personally, though its obvious who I would rather lynch, it's an easy choice between Latsuki and over soul to me (Oversoul).

Also FYI I am v/la this whole week but I have my phone. I will read/respond to things but cases etc probably not happening.

[Zdenek]

Yeah, reading through the only thing about Katsuki that is bad is his accusation that Syryana was started pretending that he didn't know Antagon flipped scum after the crash but knew it before the crash and he hasn't followed through on that at all.

Personally, I don't remember what Syryana thought before the crash and I'm not even sure that he'd stated anything.