I'm leaning more towards mac's take right now. I've seen scum use it just the way he describes and this example was even worse.In post 592, macmollie wrote:if fakeclaiming was not an accepted form of practice on this site I would say lynch it with fire.In post 578, Desperado wrote:Every page.In post 560, macmollie wrote:have you even read the game desp? cos right now I am thinking no. or at least not fully. you just kinda sheeped onto venny's case on nexus and blustered about how you were sheeping to begin with.
Yeah,I sheeped Venny's case because it's really good, and then did a bit of scumhunting of my own.
I'm not really why you're being so hostile here. I wasn't defending him, I was calling out your bad logic. You insinuated he was lying about having caught up (and was scummy for it) when I had reason to believe that he had been contacted before a replacement was needed.
What do you think about what happened with metal?
but the way he went about it was clumsy and not well thought out. it makes me think that he is town but mac has a different take on it in that he thinks that cornered scum will do something that peeps normally pass for town as a means for desperate cover. and yeah, in the way metal went about it is sorta damning.
BUT. that is what gives me pause. scum fakeclaims are usually much better crafted but with a seasoned player they can appear flawless. metal's didn't. so the only scum motivation behind steamrolling a claim when he was going down would be if he thought amrun was a special and he wanted to offer up his scum team a tasty treat to nk.
I didn't get that from the way he went about it but I could be wrong.
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So you were seeing nacho’s case on appletown in 199, sweet. Cuz it is.
You agree (re 216) that newbscum don’t do things like “dare you to lynch me” so what made you decide against this conclusion?
You telling me (re 383) that you think this thing isn’t newbtown? Like, you used the word team-mate but you weren’t thinking apple was scum at this point? IDGI
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fucking quotes arent working fucking right on my phone and im tired and fucking pissed so you get broken up post fucking deal
Why do you think someone who has two games, a newbie and a hydra, is capable of putting together a polished fakeclaim? Seriously? That logic is just mind blowing to me.In post 592, macmollie wrote:
if fakeclaiming was not an accepted form of practice on this site I would say lynch it with fire.In post 578, Desperado wrote:
Every page.In post 560, macmollie wrote:have you even read the game desp? cos right now I am thinking no. or at least not fully. you just kinda sheeped onto venny's case on nexus and blustered about how you were sheeping to begin with.
Yeah,I sheeped Venny's case because it's really good, and then did a bit of scumhunting of my own.
I'm not really why you're being so hostile here. I wasn't defending him, I was calling out your bad logic. You insinuated he was lying about having caught up (and was scummy for it) when I had reason to believe that he had been contacted before a replacement was needed.
What do you think about what happened with metal?
but the way he went about it was clumsy and not well thought out. it makes me think that he is town but mac has a different take on it in that he thinks that cornered scum will do something that peeps normally pass for town as a means for desperate cover. and yeah, in the way metal went about it is sorta damning.
BUT. that is what gives me pause. scum fakeclaims are usually much better crafted but with a seasoned player they can appear flawless. metal's didn't. so the only scum motivation behind steamrolling a claim when he was going down would be if he thought amrun was a special and he wanted to offer up his scum team a tasty treat to nk.
I didn't get that from the way he went about it but I could be wrong.
xpost: cabd no, mac will look me and vice versa. probably the only way you will be able to tell us apart is when we use the other's name in a post.
The scum motivation behind steamrolling a claim is to look fucking town and fool people into unvoting for no reason at all.
Your response to what, saying "but I wasn't sidesniping?"In post 595, Tierce wrote:Verizon hates Arizona. \o/ Currently in Utah, and I kind of skimmed through the day but nothing stuck other than back pain. Will get back to this game tomorrow--Amrun, waiting on a reply.
Yes, you were, and you are right now. Let me clarify what I mean by that in this instance, though. You're looking through my posts (specifically mine) o try and find things to criticize. The things you're criticizing aren't even relevant to alignment; you're stretching, hard, and not even putting something coherent together. I get that you're strapped for time and it shows -- and in this case, I think it shows that you are scum. You're not trying to determine my alignment, or anyone's really. You're looking to draw me into a meaningless spat in which you think you can look townier.
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Notice how his alignment isn't confirmed.
Why are you treating him like town?
You aren't trying to be reasonable at all because I'm asking for your reasoning in order to consider it and you're not providing it. Is that because it really is that shallow because it doesn't exist?In post 548, Venmar wrote:
Yeah you're hotheaded about it, don't BS me. I'm trying to be reasonable FYI.In post 546, Amrun wrote:I'm ignoring your post on nexus because I don't think any of those things are particularly unlikely to come from nexus town and I don't want the town to get bogged down in discussion of someone else when I believe metal sonicshould literally be being quicklynched with extreme prejudice.
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Nexus is town. You can take that, roll it up, sling it over your shoulder, take it out to dinner and then marry it in a small ceremony on a beach in Croatia.
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Why does the vote come down in 354 when you already have your vote on apple? Did you forget your vote existed or something?CONFIRM VOTE
401: Explain to me how KA was being a dick, I don’t see it.METAL SONIC IS DEFINITELY SCUM! -- Metal Sonic has 1 post.
407, Does your second line sill stand? Because I’m not gonna fuck you over.Not anymore
409: But “who appears to be VT” means you are pretty damn sure he’s town. What changed your mind in literally ONE POST?!?I was gonna back off sooner or later
486 BACK THE FUCK UP why isn’t KA red in your “VCA” when you’re fucking voting apple?the VCA meant to highlight the supreme wagon hoppers = those in red. KA didnt "super wagon hop" and thus is not in red. and I will back off on him scum for now, especially with <3 Cabd here
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Amrun gets a free pass today because he provided reads
I have only 1 shot, unless wagon doesnt go through or if lynch on me going through I willkill Generic
Extra scummy scumtells and the way he discredited me as being "fake" is totally scummy, not to mention rude
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more specifically he claimed he was a scumhunter or something at the start of his posts
but later just sits "out of the game" and provides mr captain obvious comments like to seem contributing but actually doing jack shit
also he was a super wagon jumper = hopping on easiest wagons Me and KA. super mislynch maker much?
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It's funny, I said you might be bullshitting for reaction... And look, amrun is still alive.In post 617, Metal Sonic wrote:In post 575, Cabd wrote:Sonic
Why does the vote come down in 354 when you already have your vote on apple? Did you forget your vote existed or something?CONFIRM VOTE
401: Explain to me how KA was being a dick, I don’t see it.METAL SONIC IS DEFINITELY SCUM! -- Metal Sonic has 1 post.
407, Does your second line sill stand? Because I’m not gonna fuck you over.Not anymore
409: But “who appears to be VT” means you are pretty damn sure he’s town. What changed your mind in literally ONE POST?!?I was gonna back off sooner or later
486 BACK THE FUCK UP why isn’t KA red in your “VCA” when you’re fucking voting apple?the VCA meant to highlight the supreme wagon hoppers = those in red. KA didnt "super wagon hop" and thus is not in red. and I will back off on him scum for now, especially with <3 Cabd here
UNVOTE: Cabd
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Amrun gets a free pass today because he provided reads
I have only 1 shot, unless wagon doesnt go through or if lynch on me going through I willkill Generic
Extra scummy scumtells and the way he discredited me as being "fake" is totally scummy, not to mention rude
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I'm sorry my reads were so bad before, everyone. I've reread the game and fixed them.
Town:Nexus, macmollie, Venmar, Reckoner, Dekes, AV
Little blips but probably town due to other people being scum:tsunami, Cabd, BROseidon, Ankamius
Concerning:Nacho, Tierce
Scum:Amrun, Desperado, Generic
Don't know, don't care, just want it out of the game in whatever way is most expedient because we shouldn't be having to deal with the insults and sexism:Metal Sonic
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In post 620, Generic wrote:If you really are a day vig, you might want to actually scumhunting rather than vendetta hunt. You are useless to the town throwing attitude around andthreatening to kill everyone who suspects you.
That's why I think you are scum. You have yet to prove me wrong.
What a blatant misrep. I threaten to kill those who hop on KA who I currently retroactively believe is a easy VT mislynch and then now hop on me who is currently for the record at the moment a easy dayvig mislynch
I'm gonna shoot you mothafuka you haven't even scumhunted much at all I looked at your iso and you don't want me to make a case against you because you are going to die by rope
oh wait that was contradictory. "shoot" and "eat rope". ha!
Bottomline is: You're going down. Scum.
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- How am I tunneling what the fuck is this, i've barely been on Nexus so far and i'm already tunneling?! FUCK YOU, you're tunneling Metal Sonic so hard I think you might have your forehead super glued to his back and stapled a knife into your hand. You can go ahead and throw yourself off of my town list because I won't take this shit from you when you dare say my Nexus vote is without reason. You try to BS both me and yourself by saying you're not hotheaded,In post 605, Amrun wrote:You're tunneling just as hard on Nexus, with far less reason. Nexus is far less relevant to the game state right now.
I hate your vote because I think Metal Sonic is town, and because of the fact you are so butt hurt when people call him town that you block them out and just keep going forward, meaning you are without reason. You're hotheaded arrogance in this MS vote looks so blind without reason and full of rage that I think you're just driving yourself off a cliff and don't even know about it.
I told you I would reread for your benefit, that I would reconsider and to try to be reasonable AND WORK WITH YOU, instead you further attack me ( which makes no sense to me ) and decide not to give me a chance. You are mad because you were the center piece of his fakeclaim, don't deny it. Booho, go get a bandaid and compose yourself, reread what MS has done, and tell me without spitting out phlegm and spit at me in anger if you really still think he is scum.
Since you are so unwilling to read my Nexus reasoning, then why should I be willing to cooperate with you or read YOUR reasoning? THIS WORLD DOESN'T REVOLVE AROUND YOU PRINCESS-ALL-MIGHTY, WAKE UP FFS.
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