Mini 1468: Legends of the Hidden Temple- Game Over!

[Nobody Special]

HOW CAN I CATCH UP IF YOU ALL KEEP POSTING

[AngryPidgeon]

Seriously this game. Im scummy because my case sucks. I keep talking about my case. no one will EVEN FUCKING ACKNOWLEDGE IT.

[AngryPidgeon]

Phrasing STRONGLY suggests that he knows Amrun is scum and her reads are faked.

Umm what? I know that Amrun is scum? So are you calling me scum?

You ignore me other than agreeing with my Amrun pressure early and then misinterpret my post that is not even directed to you at all and omgus me for it.

Thats literally all you've had to say. Fuck you.

[Wisdom]

Why do you feel the need to add a townread of Wisdom this early?

Phrasing STRONGLY suggests that he knows Amrun is scum and her reads are faked.

This is the post in question, you were answering a question regarding me, so I thought you were talking about me. What misrep?

[Haschel Cedricson]

The pool of players eligible to be lynched today consists of:

Majiffy
pirate mollie

Grimgroove
StrangerCoug

Here are the current votes:

Majiffy (2) - Amrun, StrangerCoug,
StrangerCoug (2) - Wisdom, enomis
Grimgroove (2) - Majiffy, AngryPidgeon
pirate mollie (0) -

Not Voting (6) - , pirate mollie, Elyse, SafetyDance, Grimgroove, Nobody Special, Venmar

With 12 players alive, it will take 7 votes to lynch.

[AngryPidgeon]

Why do you feel the need to add a townread of Wisdom this early?

Phrasing STRONGLY suggests that he knows Amrun is scum and her reads are faked.

This is the post in question, you were answering a question regarding me, so I thought you were talking about me. What misrep?

Grim is asking Amrun why you are town.

I am commenting on Grim's post. You don't ask someone why they 'felt the need' to townread someone. That implies its not a genuine read.

[AngryPidgeon]

This thread needs more mollie. Mollie where are you leaning on voting?

[Venmar]

Well turns out we can't even no-lynch

Vote: StrangerCoug

*sigh*

[Grimgroove]

Why do you feel the need to add a townread of Wisdom this early?

Phrasing STRONGLY suggests that he knows Amrun is scum and her reads are faked.

This is the post in question, you were answering a question regarding me, so I thought you were talking about me. What misrep?

Grim is asking Amrun why you are town.

I am commenting on Grim's post.

You don't ask someone why they 'felt the need' to townread someone.

That implies its not a genuine read.

Yes, I didn't read that as a genuine read. Why is this bussing per definition? I thought something was off with giving an early townread like that for no clear reason.
That thing in bold, the center of your argument right there, you see it? It's bullshit.

[Grimgroove]

@Grim: Burden of proof, fuck that.

Yes, well you don't want me to prove I'm not associated with Amrun, do you? That would be distancing?
So if not with you, with whom lies the burden of proof then?

About me defending Amrun's case, you're just repeating yourself. I think anyone who reads this topic will know what my stance is in this Majiffy-thing, if they choose to read more than just your selective snippets of quotes.

I'll summarize what I think needs to happen toDay. Feel free to disagree:

Right now I have a townread on pirate_mollie, a null on Majiffy and a null-leaning scum on StrangerCoug.

The null-leaning-scum on StrangerCoug I can't quite explain, and it seems few people can. It's gut. I sucks, especially for StrangerCoug who can't possibly defend himself against that, but it is what it is. He seems too "bland" somehow, rarely sticking out. Everything seems so correct in his posts, almost too correct. It just doesn't feelv ery natural. Also the lack of any visible emotion when he saw the challenge is weird. He seemed more intent to show he didn't lose his cool over anything else.

Townread on mollie has been the result of my long-stretched discussions with her. Her reasoning shows sincerity, and she has removed my doubts in the aspects for which I used to doubt her.

My nullread on Majiffy is the most problematic thing at this stage.
I reiterate my question to those who townread him: Why? (sorry AngryPidgeon, I hope you don't consider this distancing myself for all those people)

I've only seen pirate_mollie explain it, and though I believe her to be sincere, I don't find the reason that convincing. He asked her "not to refer to ongoing games". This is all that happened.
pirate_mollie believes this to be a sign that he wants to get a true, pure read off of her, and so she thinks he's town, but this is not necessarily the way it is. Asking not toç discuss ongonig games is just good practice, as any alignment.

The most important thing for me is that Majiffy explains what he sees in me that warrants the challenge. That will be the only way for me to see if he actually had scummy motives. I saw pirate_mollie say that he said something that it was just a "playstyle"-thing. If that's the only case he has on me, I think he's scum. You don't try to get people lynched over "playstyle"-things.

But Majiffy's ego will be a hurdle. Not only did it result in this challenge that very few people wanted, it could also result in him being stubborn about being right about me, meaning a tunnel in this stage, and possibly another challenge in the next. Well, we'll deal with that if and when we get there, I just want to brace myself in case there is a shitstrom coming and I'm hoping for more critical and thorough readers than Angry Pdgeon has proven himself to be, and more active play from people like Safety Dance and Nobody Special.

[Grimgroove]

So to further clarify: I'll be voting for either Majiffy or StrangerCoug.

Majiffy in case:
- His case on me is complete bullshit.
and
- He shows clear intent to to the same thing tomorrow. (even if only for self-preservation)
and/or
- StrangerCoug manages to convince me that he's town

StrangerCoug will get my vote if none of the above apply.

[Amrun]

AP, I said in the first post about Majiffy that I could see his action coming from scum -- that's a scum read.

To be honest, if I thought Majiffy was town I'd still be happy to policy lynch him for behaving so anti-town, or at least I'd consider it and then probably ultimately decide against it. But I DON'T think he's town for this.

Pirate mollie is slowly starting to look better to me as this day progresses. If Majiffy fails to be lynched, I'd be happier lynching StrangerCoug than any of the other candidates.

But I like how you just ignore all the other things I said before in response to you.

But sorry; I didn't realize you hadn't totally caught up before. I was under the impression you had.

[Majiffy]

I have stumbled out of the haze of the college-level drunkfest and will be getting to this game tonight. Mollie has made me aware of the vote count as of yesterday afternoon and I feel confident that Coug is our scum. Amrun, pull your head out of your indignant ass and vote with me.

UNVOTE: Grimgroove
VOTE: StrangerCoug

[enomis]

I have stumbled out of the haze of the college-level drunkfest and will be getting to this game tonight. Mollie has made me aware of the vote count as of yesterday afternoon and I feel confident that Coug is our scum. Amrun, pull your head out of your indignant ass and vote with me.

UNVOTE: Grimgroove
VOTE: StrangerCoug

What happened to make you feel so confident Coug is scum.

@SC:
You are scummy because you listed mollie as scum yet proceeded to vote majiffy. You didn't even

ATTEMPT

to convince people why mollie is scummy. What i see are you using grim's point about why mollie is scummy and they aren't even strong. Another reason is poe. Also, i don't like some of your posts. They are scummy. One example is this:

"What I'm gathering" was supposed to indicate that it was a summary of the reactions to the challenge. It was not supposed to reflect my opinion, and you have stopped acting like a fish out of water for awhile now. That I am effectively sheeping Amrun is conceded, however—she came up with the plan Majiffy went against in the first place.

[Wisdom]

Majiffy, is Grimgroove not scum anymore?

[SafetyDance]

I've gotten to Page 18!

Jesus, Joseph and Mary.

Vote: Majiffy

"I'm drunk", yeah going to use that excuse next game.

Needs moar rope. It works anyway because atm, PM's a town-read and I feel SC GG are more towny than Magiffy. GG > SC if i had to rank them.

[StrangerCoug]

I'm just not comfortable with lynching ANYONE in that fcking lynch pool right now, at least DEFINITELY not today.

My vote is just pure gut SC and PoE. I think Majiffy is town ( but stupid for his challenge ), I think PM is town, and i'm leaning town on Grim, which leaves you odd one out.

Fair enough. Very few people seem to like this lynch pool.

The null-leaning-scum on StrangerCoug I can't quite explain, and it seems few people can. It's gut. I sucks, especially for StrangerCoug who can't possibly defend himself against that, but it is what it is. He seems too "bland" somehow, rarely sticking out. Everything seems so correct in his posts, almost too correct. It just doesn't feelv ery natural. Also the lack of any visible emotion when he saw the challenge is weird. He seemed more intent to show he didn't lose his cool over anything else.

I believed keeping my cool the best I can was a good thing to do. That simple.

@SC:
You are scummy because you listed mollie as scum yet proceeded to vote majiffy. You didn't even

ATTEMPT

to convince people why mollie is scummy. What i see are you using grim's point about why mollie is scummy and they aren't even strong. Another reason is poe. Also, i don't like some of your posts. They are scummy. One example is this:

"What I'm gathering" was supposed to indicate that it was a summary of the reactions to the challenge. It was not supposed to reflect my opinion, and you have stopped acting like a fish out of water for awhile now. That I am effectively sheeping Amrun is conceded, however—she came up with the plan Majiffy went against in the first place.

I'm probably not the person you want on your debate team, unfortunately. If I'm not persuasive, then I'm not persuasive, and I have no control over what people ultimately think.

[Elyse]

I have stumbled out of the haze of the college-level drunkfest and will be getting to this game tonight. Mollie has made me aware of the vote count as of yesterday afternoon and I feel confident that Coug is our scum. Amrun, pull your head out of your indignant ass and vote with me.

UNVOTE: Grimgroove
VOTE: StrangerCoug

Why isn't Grim scum anymore?

[Grimgroove]

And why was I ever?

[pirate mollie]

VOTE: strangecoug

that is L1 I think.

[Amrun]

I didn't want the day to end yet.

I feel like we could get so much more out of it; why the rush?

That being said, I'm willing to hammer I'd just rather not do it yet.

I'd like Majiffy to answer the above questions first, and content from our lurkers.

[Elyse]

^^That post is giving me scum-induced seizures.

I hate everything about it.

[pirate mollie]

I didn't want the day to end yet.

I feel like we could get so much more out of it; why the rush?

That being said, I'm willing to hammer I'd just rather not do it yet.

I'd like Majiffy to answer the above questions first, and content from our lurkers.

the game is nightless :/

[Amrun]

I know it's night less. That doesn't mean we shouldn't get as much information as possible out if each day -- in fact, it's MORE important since there is no night game.

That's why I wanted to make sure two groups that included at least two suspects aren't up on the block, to avoid this sort of lazy, compromise day that is happening now. It's harmful to town both in the short and long run.

[Majiffy]

What happened to make you feel so confident Coug is scum.

Weak wagon hop on a perceived easy mislynch.

Majiffy, is Grimgroove not scum anymore?

Not sure. Will figure out later.

Vote: Majiffy

"I'm drunk", yeah going to use that excuse next game.

Needs moar rope. It works anyway because atm, PM's a town-read and I feel SC GG are more towny than Magiffy. GG > SC if i had to rank them.

Confirmed Scum 2.

Why isn't Grim scum anymore?

There's a wagon on Coug, Coug had a scummy wagon hop, ergo Coug is a better place for my vote.

A man

can

have multiple scum reads, I'm not sure why everyone seems to think my Grim scumread went away because I switched votes.

^^That post is giving me scum-induced seizures.

I hate everything about it.

Agree wholeheartedly but Amrun is probably town.