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Post Post #1525 (ISO) » Fri Jul 05, 2013 1:36 pm

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In post 1511, sword_of_omens wrote:Mara,

why would you ask this question specifically?
In post 851, Ms Marangal wrote:yesterday, you that there are forsaken who could enter the dream-world? are any of them female with the capability to kill?
Considering Ghost is dead, and Demon's character is male...
Which means, he's lying about who his character is
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Post Post #1526 (ISO) » Fri Jul 05, 2013 6:25 pm

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In post 1524, Empking wrote:I don't know the flavour, but aren't all the Aes Saedari women so 'Green Brother', for example, would be very odd.
1) Not only Aes Sedai can dreamwalk. Rand, Rahvin, Luc/Isam, and Perrin all do it naturally, as early as Book 1, and they're male.

2) Dreamwalkers can alter their appearance within the context of the dream. IIRC, Rand does just that in Book 3. It'd be a piece of piss for someone as adept as Rand to take on a female appearance.
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Post Post #1527 (ISO) » Fri Jul 05, 2013 6:34 pm

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EBWOP: Also, Ghostlin's flip renders Mara's point null. Aviendha was not Aes Sedai. Thus, Mara's mention of sisters strikes me as a means of chewing up time before deadline with irrelevancies

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Post Post #1528 (ISO) » Fri Jul 05, 2013 6:43 pm

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Aes Sedai?
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Post Post #1529 (ISO) » Fri Jul 05, 2013 6:45 pm

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I'm also pretty sure that I mentioned sisters right when I explained my dream-walking Yesterday, so how is me talking about sisters now me chewing up time? everyone in the QT were all female
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Post Post #1530 (ISO) » Sat Jul 06, 2013 2:07 am

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Post Post #1531 (ISO) » Sat Jul 06, 2013 3:54 am

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In post 1529, Ms Marangal wrote:I'm also pretty sure that I mentioned sisters right when I explained my dream-walking Yesterday, so how is me talking about sisters now me chewing up time? everyone in the QT were all female
And I'm pretty sure SoO is right about you knowing more about the source material than you're letting on, which means that you know that {colour} sister where {colour} is within a subset of seven specific colours is a reference to Aes Sedai within the WoT framework, and it would be easy to get those of us who liked the books sidetracked into a big discussion about Aes Sedai given the huge role they play within the story.

But it won't work, because Ghostlin's flip proves that this nonsense about sisters is not germane to Empking's alignment or anyone else's.
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Post Post #1532 (ISO) » Sat Jul 06, 2013 4:07 am

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So the million dollar question becomes...Mara has been calling Demon scum all game long but now all the sudden she's tentative to vote? Is this buddy play?
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Post Post #1533 (ISO) » Sat Jul 06, 2013 4:55 am

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I don't have a fucking clue to what you're on about

I don't know anything about Aes Sedai, all I know is that we were given colors to mask our identities, and we were all called sisters. I was trying to help figure out where the second kill came from the first night, and I was telling you guys what I know about what happened that first night.

I've done my part to help town get this win, I havn't hidden anything from town, and it's freaking obvious that scum are trying to push my wagon to save EMP from getting lynched, you guys are all trying to get that perfect win but it isn't going to happen


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Post Post #1534 (ISO) » Sat Jul 06, 2013 5:04 am

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Post Post #1535 (ISO) » Sat Jul 06, 2013 7:10 am

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dat Mexican standoff!
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Post Post #1536 (ISO) » Sat Jul 06, 2013 7:31 am

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In post 1533, Ms Marangal wrote:Nero/Beli/EMP scum team 2013
You really think the
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Post Post #1537 (ISO) » Sat Jul 06, 2013 7:39 am

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To be fair, I'm pretty sure the whole scum team is on my wagon. (Although in my case scum-Mara didn't have much of a choice but to be the third scum on y wagon.)
Plus, if you guys want to make a point, skip the walls, because everyone else in the game does as well. - Magister Ludi
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Post Post #1538 (ISO) » Sat Jul 06, 2013 7:41 am

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selk, GCBC and Mara?
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Post Post #1539 (ISO) » Sat Jul 06, 2013 7:45 am

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In post 1538, Nero Cain wrote:selk, GCBC and Mara?
My reads are more Mara, Selk and Iece? Am I missing something or why that can't be?
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Post Post #1540 (ISO) » Sat Jul 06, 2013 7:49 am

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Meh, Iece is scummy I guess but its not like anyone is really filling me with town vibes this game. I was town reading Iece for what may seem to be a stupid reason but given that I was town reading Mara for faking her town meta, I could equally be wrong on Iece.
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Post Post #1541 (ISO) » Sat Jul 06, 2013 7:56 am

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You're certainly wrong. Don't know if you're wrong about Iece.

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Post Post #1542 (ISO) » Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:12 am

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In post 1523, Ms Marangal wrote:Red sister, Yellow sister, and Blue (me) sister
???

Aviendha (Ghostlin, who died N1) isn't a sister at all (she's an Aiel Wise One/Maiden of the Spear -- she's from a different culture that also channels), and Nynaeve (Mara's claim) is a Yellow sister, not a Blue one. Siuan Sanche (milkshake) and Moiraine (me) are both Blues, and Elayne is a Green. No players in this game have claimed a Red sister, though it's true that there are indeed Red sisters in the game. (Aes Sedai are called "sisters.")

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Post Post #1543 (ISO) » Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:15 am

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In post 1542, Iecerint wrote:it's true that there are indeed Red sisters in the game.
What makes you so sure?
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Post Post #1544 (ISO) » Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:30 am

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Typo -- meant to say Red sisters in the flavor (i.e., Red is a color of an Ajah).

Colors are Red (police force, but focus on neutering men), Blue (save-the-world activists, but derided as meddling), Green (they kill monsters, but they are derided as overtly sexual), Yellow (they just heal and that is OK), White (they do logic and nothing amounts to it), Brown (they do history and sometimes find old artifacts), and Grey (they mediate and come to specialize in gateways). And also Black, but Black sisters also nominally belong to another group.
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Post Post #1545 (ISO) » Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:32 am

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In post 1542, Iecerint wrote:
In post 1523, Ms Marangal wrote:Red sister, Yellow sister, and Blue (me) sister
???

Aviendha (Ghostlin, who died N1) isn't a sister at all (she's an Aiel Wise One/Maiden of the Spear -- she's from a different culture that also channels), and Nynaeve (Mara's claim) is a Yellow sister, not a Blue one. Siuan Sanche (milkshake) and Moiraine (me) are both Blues, and Elayne is a Green. No players in this game have claimed a Red sister, though it's true that there are indeed Red sisters in the game. (Aes Sedai are called "sisters.")

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Yes we were disguised as anonymous sisters in the QT.
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Post Post #1546 (ISO) » Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:38 am

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Nero, what is your current case on us as scum?
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Post Post #1547 (ISO) » Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:50 am

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Actually, never mind.

Orcinus and I have agreed to VOTE: Ms Marangal
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Post Post #1548 (ISO) » Sat Jul 06, 2013 9:09 am

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Nero, if that didn't lose the game, then plz think about what can be learned from the investigative roles. I don't exactly trust GCBC, but it's possible they are town. Our activity cop dreamer action is a weak investigation in terms of finding scum, but could turn up something useful. The thing I hate is leaving a roleblocker I think is scum alive for night 3, but Emking has made me a little uncertain about that read.

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Post Post #1549 (ISO) » Sat Jul 06, 2013 9:19 am

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