NY 165: A Large Normal (Game Over!)

[KingCrabd]

It wasn't a reaction test.

What was it, then?

I joked about only signing up for this game if I got a daykill in the signup thread. It was a joke. I make jokes. I don't go reaction tests cause i'm not a fooking noob

And you thought it was a good idea to bring in a pre-game joke to day two of a game because....?

Still waiting on this too.

[Calcifer]

Let Brian Holliday live until Day 3 or Day 4 if he keeps this kind of play up.

I might agree with you if Goat weren't doing the same thing only worse.

so you agree that goat should also die?
what's preventing you from voting them now?

[Rift Adrift]

I think we need some triage.

[Zdenek]

I think we need some triage.

Start with Stevie.
Use the wagons to get reads on others (hopefully the lurkers).
Easy-peasy.

[Cephrir]

Let Brian Holliday live until Day 3 or Day 4 if he keeps this kind of play up.

I might agree with you if Goat weren't doing the same thing only worse.

so you agree that goat should also die?
what's preventing you from voting them now?

I'm too busy voting Thirdkoopa, and if I wasn't voting him I'd probably be voting letters.

There are a lot of players in this game who need to die.

[BulbaFenix]

Actually BulbaFenix's 2187 is so opportunistic, that there is little chance that I'd vote for DOMO today after that.

What about it was opportunistic?

-Bulba

DOMO: Not as much of a gut read as the others. They appeal to the logic part of me, and they are actively scumhunting. Everything they do comes from town motivation. Therefore, they're town.

I have strong townreads on you and Rift. DOMO is major scumhunting, which makes him a townread.

Then in that post you cast suspicion on him for questionable reasons.

That's because they posted a series of legitimately scummy posts.

There are a lot of players in this game who need to die.

Yes, they're called scum. Let's not get too crazy in the PL department.

-Bulba

[Cephrir]

Well, I'm certainly not policy lynching anyone right now, and I probably won't be interested until some legitimately scummy players are out of here. Perhaps we have a nice vig who wants to take care of that issue for us.

[Metal Sonic]

Serene sucks

[Rift Adrift]

Town

Serene
Dramonic

Lean town

KingCrabd
orcinus
Zdenec
DOMO
Ankamius
Calcifer
Cephrir
Metal Sonic
StubbsKVM

Null-Town

Shadi1337
StevieT92
Baby Spice

Scum/Leaning Scum

The Goat
Thirdkoopa (T S O)
Brian Hollywood
BulbaFenix

Want to rethink

BROseidon
TMTOLBTWNTOF

[Ankamius]

VOTE: DOMO

Ank, where have you been floating lately?

Been trying to get reads to settle in my head the past couple of days. I looked around a bit and didn't find a whole lot; not really that difficult with all the nonsense in the thread.

The game's still moving pretty damn fast, but a lot of it is just talk that isn't really alignment-indicative either way. I'll probably look into ProHawk sometime tomorrow to see if anyone's interactions with him stand out.

[BROseidon]

Stevie:

1) Self vote isn't a scum tell. Going to paraphrase Nacho from my newbie game: "Scumtells don't exist. Look for motivation." There is both town and scum motivation to trying to shake early pressure. Scum don't want to get lynched. Town want to move the pressure onto people who are scum.

2) You don't like my posting style where I try to figure out people's motivations behind their actions so I can discern who is scum and who isn't. I don't need to stir up a shitshow when other people are doing it. Sitting back and analyzing the conflict lets you figure out who's scum.

3) Initially had Nero as a town read for the way he was tunneling you, and he was initially not nearly as bad as Serene was once Serene entered. However, Nero did get a lot worse over the course of the day, so much so that I thought the aggression wasn't town-motivated. Note how I was eventually on the lynch.

4) lol not believing a day 1 mason claim. Those are super-risky, as you are counting on there not being masons or a cop in the game, so they are far more likely to be true than false.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

serene is jackshit.

[Shadi1337]

Calcifier seems off compared to last round, or at least not the "usual" Calcifier; is this the other head?
Why do people still see Serene as strong town after what happened last round? He intentionally fucked someone he "knew" was town over when another lynch was still possible (granted, under much pressure but possible) I guess a wagon after Nero's would have been more suspicious as it seems like vote-sniping but the result should have been better on a possible mafia, right?
I used to support the Stevie wagon but I'm really not sure anymore, now it just seems like we're hunting his ass because of very early r1 derps that didn't last forever iirc. I guess he wouldn't be the worst to lynch, though.
@Koo, you don't even need to catch up lol, 30-40 of the pages are Serene's nonsensical jumble of words when he went from serene to insane.
@Domo, what makes bro so scum looking @ the results? I may have missed some points as I was checking on my phone quickly - I can see how we are getting leads but you are basically implying the NK changes the entire course what was very correct to look @ was the Nero wagon - who supported it and who didn't, why (not)?

Also guys sorry but V/LA till the 13th. I'm in Austria with some friends, basically only posting as I woke up 8 AM in the morning and they are still sleeping - I might drop in a few posts but would rather prioritise the trip. Not gonna deny that I could end up posting a lot though.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Calcifer's confession:

I like ProHawk dying but both dying together makes no sense unless both scumteams used their kills to scumhunt.

yes.

VOTE: calcifer

[orcinus_theoriginal]

The nightkills point to calcifer or someone who's globally recognized as town

[Calcifer]

Town

Serene
Dramonic

Lean town

KingCrabd
orcinus
Zdenec
DOMO
Ankamius
Calcifer
Cephrir
Metal Sonic
StubbsKVM

Null-Town

Shadi1337
StevieT92
Baby Spice

Scum/Leaning Scum

The Goat
Thirdkoopa (T S O)
Brian Hollywood
BulbaFenix

Want to rethink

BROseidon
TMTOLBTWNTOF

I dunno about Nacho, but *I* certainly love ya.

This list is awesome. Other than one or two players I'm iffy about (Zdenek and Ank), this is actually right in line with my thoughts. (And even the players I'm iffy on, are not very strong reads.)

[Baby Spice]

Find me a a game where you found scum based on the "not considering the flips"

Indeed, the opposite is more likely true.

[Baby Spice]

vote: Stevie

I'd prefer that you try to behave a lot more pro-town. Thanks in advance.

This is massively mitigated

Mitigated? What does this mean?

It means to try to make what your saying less offensive or boat rocking.
I've no idea if this actually constitutes a read, just noticing that it's not the normal way other people post.

Weasel worded perhaps?

[orcinus_theoriginal]

TiP was vig'ed

not necessarily

you dropped a really retarded crumb to tip mason that i picked up on, maybe scum team did too

[Rift Adrift]

I dunno about Nacho, but *I* certainly love ya.

This list is awesome. Other than one or two players I'm iffy about (Zdenek and Ank), this is actually right in line with my thoughts. (And even the players I'm iffy on, are not very strong reads.)

Both of them were null-to-scummy for parts of day 1. Right now, I feel Zdenek is more strongly town than Ank, but both are leaning town.

[Metal Sonic]

lol tip and prohawk dying

funny

good thing only VTs died

serene is a fucking stupid dipshit whose reads are garbage

who is scum i will find you now

stevie looks like scum lets lynch him

VOTE: stevie

[Baby Spice]

Nero really shows the same asshat style from that other game, but the posting is different.
There isn't the same scum hunting going on here though.

So you're sheeping, but in different words. Why?

Nope. Not Sheeping. Just offering an opinion.

[Baby Spice]

It wasn't a reaction test.

What was it, then?

I joked about only signing up for this game if I got a daykill in the signup thread. It was a joke. I make jokes. I don't go reaction tests cause i'm not a fooking noob

And you thought it was a good idea to bring in a pre-game joke to day two of a game because....?

Still waiting on this too.

Well, he made a crack about dayvigs in the sign up thread, he never said anything about only joining if he got one.

Sounds more like Stevie is trying to back down from a shitty dayvig reaction test that drew scum vibes to him.

Damnit, that's a town reaction too.

[Metal Sonic]

what

stevie cant do that bs dayvig

nobody would believe him

[orcinus_theoriginal]

I opppose nero's ban. He is the people's hero.