Calvin and Hobbes Mafia(GAME OVER! Grownups Mafia Wins!)

[Rubicon]

No one hammer anyone just yet, I want a chance to post something.

[Dante]

FTR:

Since everyone else did.

TheIrishPope: Town
Psyche: Town
Varsoon: Scum (Miller claim plus the links to town death from N1)
penguin_alien: Town
Rubicon: Town
Skullduggery: Town
boxxy: Town
Desperado: Town
Metal Sonic: Scum (starting to contribute but still disinterested town willing to vote anyone)
T S O: Town
TiphaineDeath: Town
EddieFenix: Scum (Very little contribution, seems to lay low)
Nobody Special: Scum (Same as above...adds nothing to the game commentary to hold him accountable later)
Dante: Town (Obviously...the lack of meta has captured Rubicon's attention and many others are willing to sheep)

If/when I flip...take a look back at this...just a foot stomp...we needed intel from people making cases...not letting scum coast till the end game.

[Rubicon]

Looks like MS finally starting contributing...I'll take that...

Varsoon has come on strong as well...but in the opposite way...

Unvote, Vote: Varsoon

Eliminates one wifom and probably scum to boot.

What do you guys think this vote indicates in the context of a multiball game? If Dante is scum and not buddies with boxxy, I'd expect him to have voted boxxy here instead of Varsoon. boxxy is scummy and the most likely alternative lynch, so if Dante wants to both survive and crush the opposing faction, his vote should be there. But instead he not only calls boxxy town in his list of reads, but votes the

same

person boxxy is voting for. boxxy and Dante are now the only two people voting Varsoon, they're both lurking and Dante's last 3-4 posts have a tone of resignation.

Dante

could

be town and just sincerely find boxxy town and Varsoon scum, but how likely is that?

I think this vote means that EITHER boxxy and Dante are buddies, or (much less likely) Dante is town. Which would suggest that lynching boxxy is our best bet.

[Psyche]

i haven't seen anything that viscous since the great jello parade of '04

[Rubicon]

Explain?

[Rubicon]

Also, boxxy has not mentioned dante once in this entire game. If 1332 is an attempt to avoid talking about the other players not on that wagon, dante fits perfectly.

[TiphaineDeath]

Eh, dante's last few posts are bad anyways, leavin mah vote where it is.

[Psyche]

your reasoning is crappy and i remain suspicious

the fact that dante voted varsoons does not mean we should vote for boxxy
that is just silly

[Rubicon]

I'm pretty sure it's not silly, and probably right. Could you be more specific about which part of the reasoning you object to?

[Rubicon]

I mean, the alternative is that Dante is scum,

not

buddies with boxxy, and inexplicably calling boxxy town and pushing a lynch that's never going to happen today. You buy that?

[Psyche]

false dilemma

[Rubicon]

I'm forced to conclude you are high.

[Psyche]

Sure okay.

[Rubicon]

What possibilities am I ignoring?

[Psyche]

dante

could

be scum and just sincerely find your wifom amusing
dante

could

be scum and just sincerely has made a bad play

and then whatever he could be and whatver his reason for voting varsoons,
boxxy's chance of being scum doesn't change to the extent that dante stops being the superior lynch option

[Skullduggery]

Skull perhaps frog can sub in and we'll tunnel you

Ha ha, funny. You should quit your job and pursue a career as a stand-up comedian.

1.) The last analysis post left me with a town intent/impression. If Boxxy could post more, I could examine their posts over more. It's still a gut read and I know that you can't prove or disprove "gut"... But, I can't help BUT trust it at the moment.

What do you think of my response to Boxxy's limp-wristed wagon analysis in 1382 then? (The bottom section.) I see 1332 as more of an attempt to

appear

Town and deflect attention than an actual, honest, legitimate attempt at Scum hunting. Do you disagree? If so, why? And I'm seriously going to throw something at you if you say "gut."

2.) See day 2. I'm going to drag my feet as far as a vote goes so we can get everything onto the table and have every bit of discussion out.

So your strategy as a Townie (I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here) is to sit on your greatest weapon -- your vote -- and keep it undeployed and unused until the very last possible moment? That's silly. That's silly and you should feel silly for saying something so silly. Vote for someone. Now.

I'm not gonna go easy on you just because we're both Batman villains.

@MS: Hahah, I can't believe people built cases off of your game-skimming.

@Varsoon

said "people" flipped scum

What the heck are you guys talking about? The only one who has flipped Scum so far is roflcopter, and he didn't say diddly-squat about Metal Sonic.

I cannot confirm it to you, but you have to believe me.

Sorry, but no, we don't have to believe you. You already shot yourself in the foot when you flat-out lied about Varsoon here. Boy who cried wolf, Pope. I hope you can understand why nobody wants to believe you.

He lied, he's scum, and that's that.

Zoidberg lied. Was he Scum?

You lied. Are you Scum?

We also don't even know for certain whether Desperado is lying or not. We only have your word for it, and as I just pointed out, your word has no value.

* answers coming in 4 hours or so. Blegh.

Is this coming or what? You made this post almost 12 hours ago.

But he has no clue if the wagons are on scum...
Wait...
VOTE: T S O
Motherfucker, you thought you could have fooled us huh?

If he has no idea whether the wagons are on Scum, that would make him Town. So you're voting for someone that you just said is Town.

God, you're bad at this.

Varsoon: Scum (Miller claim plus the links to town death from N1)

That link to Radioactive Wolf's death has already been explained by Desperado. If you think Varsoon killed Radioactive Wolf, that would only make sense if you think that Desperado is lying and he and Varsoon are Scum buddies. But, no, you have Desperado as Town.

Your reasons for suspecting Varsoon are pretty weaksauce.

boxxy: Town

Why?

Also, boxxy has not mentioned dante once in this entire game.

Good point. In my experience, newbscum has a tendency to

completely

ignore each other because they don't know how to make their interactions seem natural. Worth keeping this in mind.

[Rubicon]

Sure, both of those are options. Do you think they're likely? If only one of them is scum, I think it's more likely to be boxxy, based on that vote. So it's more a matter of, Dante's chance of being town changes the extent that he's the superior lynch.

[Rubicon]

(directed at Psyche)

[Skullduggery]

Boxxy - Penguin_Alien, Skullduggery, Desperado, Varsoon, Metal Sonic (L-3)
Dante - Rubicon, Nobody Special, TiphaineDeath, Psyche (L-4)
Varsoon - Boxxy, Dante (L-6)
T S O - TheIrishPope (L-7)

Not Voting: EddieFenix, T S O

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I think this vote means that EITHER boxxy and Dante are buddies, or (much less likely) Dante is town. Which would suggest that lynching boxxy is our best bet.

If only one of them is scum, I think it's more likely to be boxxy, based on that vote. So it's more a matter of, Dante's chance of being town changes the extent that he's the superior lynch.

If Boxxy is the better lynch, why is your vote still on Dante?

[Rubicon]

I was waiting for a vote count

VOTE: Boxxy

[Varsoon]

@Rubicon: I can buy your explanation. Not really following Dante's vote on me, and it's really awkward that it lines up with boxxy so much. Regardless, Boxxy is my priority lynch for today.

@Skull: We're referencing other games that we shared where that happened. MS said he'd skim the thread, then posted in about a minute's time, leading to scum trying to build a case about how he couldn't have possibly read the thread in such a short time. I think this is my third game with Metal Sonic, but I could be wrong. He's kinda fun to play with, despite spikes in activity.

@Dante: So, how about some evidence for me being scum outside of speculation that's already been discussed to death?

[Varsoon]

@Skull: You're a bro for that votecount.

[Varsoon]

TD, TiP, and Psyche,
Given the case presented against Boxxy, what's your reason for not having a vote there?

[TheIrishPope]

I'm implying that T S O does know

Because Desp is scum

[Varsoon]

Could Boxxy and Desp both be scum?
After all, our chances of hitting scum are pretty high given scum/town ratios at this point. It'd be 1/3 or so.