NY 165: A Large Normal (Game Over!)

[Serene]

Ok reads regarding ProHawk's death:

Doc Holliday (Cephrir) is town
Broseidon is scum
Calcifer is probably town
Dramonic is slightly scummy

Explain these.

-Bulba

The only explanation is that Ankamius is scum.

[Ankamius]

Axe the BROseidon read; a closer look made the point null.

Doc Holliday blatantly showed he didn't really read very well; shows more town than scum.
Calcifer went along with the plan at first (notably after two people condemned it), then hopped right off. Looks really awkward from a scum standpoint and I don't see one being so obvious about it.
Dramonic's vote on Calcifer feels off. Minor point.

[KingCrabd]

Dramonic's vote on Calcifer feels off. Minor point.

So do you doubt the mason claim then? I feel like a broken record here yeesh.

[BulbaFenix]

Doc Holliday blatantly showed he didn't really read very well; shows more town than scum.

Then again, Doc did get replaced. What about Cephrir makes you think scum, or was it all about how Doc did not have that much time to devote to this game?

Calcifer went along with the plan at first (notably after two people condemned it), then hopped right off. Looks really awkward from a scum standpoint and I don't see one being so obvious about it.

Why do you think Calcifer was obvious about it? I don't think so. Wouldn't scum want to hop off of a bad idea, especially after town voiced disapproval for it?

Dramonic's vote on Calcifer feels off. Minor point.

Then why bring it up, especially since Dramonic had claimed mason, which should have influenced your reads?

-Bulba

[Ankamius]

I should have made myself more clear the first time. Those aren't my total reads on the players, just what direction the reads went with it.

I didn't say Cephrir was scum...? I was talking specifically about the first post, by the way.

Calcifer posted that right smack in the middle of the condemnation of the plan. I think scum would have been more cautious of following it so easily once it had started.

Partially because I forgot, and partially because YOLO

[Calcifer]

VOTE: BulbaFenix.

[Shadi1337]

Well Dramonic claimed to be dead weight only R1; so I'm interested if his approach is gonna change this round.

[Metal Sonic]

why bulba?


no i didnt read

[The Goat]

why bulba?


no i didnt read

I ISOed, and I would like someone to explain it to me, as well.

[DOMO]

Then why bring it up, especially since Dramonic had claimed mason, which should have influenced your reads?

Isn't this hydra suggesting serene is scum? Shouldn't that effect your read on dramonic?

Bulba has a point though. Ank is saying dramonic is "slightly scummy", yet he hardly mentions serene in his entire ISO. Serene is way scummier than dramonic, if you're going to point the finger at one of the masons, it's gonna be serene. Very strange to call dramonic scummy without giving any consideration whatsoever to serene.

vote ankamius

[Zdenek]

I don't believe that what we've seen from Fenix today is representative of someone desperate to tango with Serene.

They are lying scum.

[Zdenek]

DOMO, why are you ignoring BulbaFenix?

[Zdenek]

I mean their slip.

[DOMO]

I think bulbafenix is scum too, I'm willing to put my vote back there. I'm finding it hard to find a winning scum strategy after fakeclaiming mason on day one. Serene and dram are masons. If anyone wants to argue otherwise then please, by all means, show us how they can expect to win and I might entertain the idea. For now they are confirmed town and should be treated as such, as much as that pains me after the way serene has been playing.

pedit - bulba's slip?

[Zdenek]

You disbelieve the mason claim?

Personally, I do not. Bulba and I have been going back and forth on this in our conversations.
...
-Fenix

Fenix doesn't think that Serene's mason claim is legitimate and thinks that he's scum.

Bingo!

Vote: BulbaFenix

[Zdenek]

Followed by the fact that their explanation was completely unsatisfactory.

[DOMO]

Interesting. When I first read that I thought it made sense, like "personally I do not believe the claim". But yeah on 2nd read that's bad.

vote bulbafenix

either or really

[StubbsKVM]

Just popping in to say I will start catching up eventually. Had a terribly busy weekend/week and this thread is moving fast.

[Zdenek]

Vote BulbaFenix while you're here.

[StubbsKVM]

I considered it, because it does seem pretty bad. But I'd like to see the context of those quotes before doing so.

[Baby Spice]

It does look like BulbaFenix is faking reads.

Vote Bulba

[Metal Sonic]

what is going on

super fast wagon is suspect

[Cephrir]

Interesting. When I first read that I thought it made sense, like "personally I do not believe the claim". But yeah on 2nd read that's bad.

vote bulbafenix

either or really

Oh, I get it now. I was thinking this too. You can see how that could have been meant the other way, but that is kind of bad.

Can we get a VC in here?

[Serene]

what is going on

super fast wagon is suspect

Or it means that BFenix is just a goon, and Ank is the Godfather.

It also means we're getting our shit together.

[DOMO]

bulba's "slip" alone is not enough to warrant lynch, it's easy for him to say he also misread that statement. But today he's come in with an immediate reasonless vote for stevie, then said I must be speedlynched if it's it's multiball for being the first to speculate on it, despite the fact it's the assumption most people seem to be working on, serene included. Then he's saying serene is scum, without explaining to us how fakeclaiming mason on day one with a buddy is viable. And he wasn't looking good yesterday.

So this bulba wagon does not have me concerned. He's picking up fast votes because he's scum.