I think she is scummy because her conversation with me looks fake and looks like trying to pacify me. I also agree with she trying to ate out of the lynch. But I am not confident.In post 1824, Grimgroove wrote:Please do try to get a read on her, at least.
Then why are you voting Amrun? A compromise lynch?In post 1828, Wisdom wrote:Elyse is the only one I can see making sense as scum with Amrun, really.
And maybe AP.
Everyone else doesn't.
So you are telling me it's not a compromise lynch? You think amrun is more scummy than qwintz?In post 1830, Wisdom wrote:Are you sure you read that correctly?
Oh look. Someone looking at me using evidence to fit reads.In post 1833, AngryPidgeon wrote:Oh look a string of shallow questions brought to you by Enomis to look like hes scumhunting.
Wisdom, cut the bullshit. If you are seriously lynching Amrun on the off chance that the team is explicitly Me/Her/Elyse then WTF?
Amrun x Qwints is slightly more likely with the flop onto Enomis but Enomis is scum so still not really.
Enomis, Why do you think its unlikely?? They just decided to cross bus for giggles despite neither of them getting any towncred for it?
I'm lynching Amrun because she's very likely scum. Nothing to do with who her buddies could be. And as I said, even if she's town we can probably gain some information from the pushes on her etc.In post 1833, AngryPidgeon wrote:Wisdom, cut the bullshit. If you are seriously lynching Amrun on the off chance that the team is explicitly Me/Her/Elyse then WTF?
When you don't think that person is going to get lynched. Like I actuallypredicted an enomis lynch from this pool and turned out to be sadly mistaken. I would have guessed SD was getting lynched if not him though, so why not posture on Amrun? And its not like he had a choice when bussing NS; NS was going down at that point unless you somehow think a surprise Wisdom counterwagon was in the works at all.In post 1783, Wisdom wrote:On what planet do scum bus someone and at the same time plan the next bussing?
They've been voting together since yesterdayIn post 1791, Wisdom wrote:What is the connection between Amrun/Elyse?
That should be obvious.Ya this is a scumpost. Hes not willing to vote someone he thinks is scum and hes overly focused on getting NS to generate content when a singular vote on NS is not going to do that. And if you look at his tone, he clearly doesnt care about me getting lynched immediately. Theres no urgency "GUYS WE NEED TO GET NS IN HERE TO MAKE A GOOD DECISION" but rather "Im just gonna posture over here on NS for a bit, go ahead and mislynch pidgeon without me guysIn post 886, Grimgroove wrote:VOTE: Nobody Special
Even if only to spur him towards more content. He can't stay in hiding forever.
Don't have an especially strong townread on any of the four anymore. AngryPidgeon is my preference, but not enough to put him at L-1 already. Elyse and amrun on his wagon aren't exactly reassuring either.
". And hes even distancing from my wagon by calling out people on it at THE SAME TIME. If it was really his preferred wagon he wouldn't be voting a nonentity and casting doubt on the people pushing me. Thats bullshit. In post 1774, Wisdom wrote:I don't lynch people to clarify things. I lynch them because they're scum.
Yet you're lynching Amrun for information. I need to let this stew in my head for a bit, but I really dont like you hedging your way onto the Amrun lynch as an 'info lynch' when you claim thats not your style.
No, that's my point. He knew NS is a goner and he was already planning the next lynch - the question is was he bussing and planning the next mislynch, or was he compromising and planning the next possible scumlynch?In post 1836, AngryPidgeon wrote:In post 1783, Wisdom wrote:On what planet do scum bus someone and at the same time plan the next bussing?
When you don't think that person is going to get lynched. Like I actuallypredicted an enomis lynch from this pool and turned out to be sadly mistaken. I would have guessed SD was getting lynched if not him though, so why not posture on Amrun? And its not like he had a choice when bussing NS; NS was going down at that point unless you somehow think a surprise Wisdom counterwagon was in the works at all.
I'm not connecting you to Amrun. It's PoE. Other than Elyse I find it hard to believe anyone else could be scum with her.Also wtf at both Grim and Wisdom connecting me to Amrun. Why the fuck are you guys doing that. If I wanted to save Amrun's bacon, I'd be shoving Qwints.
I thought it might be possible because of Venmar's [Both Amrun and Wisdom are scum] which I interepreted as "I'm bussing Amrun so I can push Wisdom harder next", but now that I reread after qwints pointed it out I found that less likely, since he could have pushed Safety instead.@Wisdom: Why do you see Amrun/Venmar connected?
Voting together does not equal scumbuddies. Many times it's the opposite. I don't they're that obvious.They've been voting together since yesterday
I was angry when I posted 1774 because I thought qwints is obvscum and nobody is listening to me. However I reread and I can see that maybe I was just confbiased. His recent contributing posts also help in that regard. Also, I am not lynching her just for information. All the things I have said about her and accused her about did not suddenly disappear. She made me paranoid with that post where she showed how Grim is NS buddy and I thought for a moment that "Yes, it must be Grim, and that means Amrun can't be scum", but it could have been just AtE.In post 1837, AngryPidgeon wrote:In post 1774, Wisdom wrote:I don't lynch people to clarify things. I lynch them because they're scum.Yet you're lynching Amrun for information. I need to let this stew in my head for a bit, but I really dont like you hedging your way onto the Amrun lynch as an 'info lynch' when you claim thats not your style.
In post 1836, AngryPidgeon wrote:Ya this is a scumpost. Hes not willing to vote someone he thinks is scum and hes overly focused on getting NS to generate content when a singular vote on NS is not going to do that. And if you look at his tone, he clearly doesnt care about me getting lynched immediately. Theres no urgency "GUYS WE NEED TO GET NS IN HERE TO MAKE A GOOD DECISION" but rather "Im just gonna posture over here on NS for a bit, go ahead and mislynch pidgeon without me guysIn post 886, Grimgroove wrote:VOTE: Nobody Special
Even if only to spur him towards more content. He can't stay in hiding forever.
Don't have an especially strong townread on any of the four anymore. AngryPidgeon is my preference, but not enough to put him at L-1 already. Elyse and amrun on his wagon aren't exactly reassuring either.
Newbtown being you?In post 1747, Grimgroove wrote:Amrun, good job pressuring newbtown! (uh-oh, AtE)
This contradicts your opinion that we could get information out of him by voting him over me so I really feel like you are reaching out to anyone that said that as a soft-buddying attempt.In post 1748, Grimgroove wrote:Like many correctly said, what Nobody Secpail had given us at that point, was probably all that he was going to give us even if we had kept him alive.
ISOs are a great way to read someone and this preemptive "Don't ISO me it'll be inaccurate" is scummy as balls and a really really contrived point to bring on Amrun by saying she 'should know better' wrt you. Plus there is that nice sprinkling of burden of proof to actually go through and reread everything involved if they want to scumread you.In post 1748, Grimgroove wrote:So yes, it is very easy to make my posts look like someone who is being opportunistic in his ideas, especially when ISO'ing me. But my thoughts are not meant to be read in ISO, they're meant to be read in context. And the context explains perfectly why I change my mind about certain things.
Thats because I've spent my time in thread defending myself from shitty wagons and perpetually behind. But I'll get to a 'formal case' if you'd like this weekend just for you. And this is also a terrible blanket statement to make because I HAVE indicated points of yours that I find scummy throughout the game so claiming that my suspicion on you is 100% baseless is a blatant discrediting attempt.In post 1748, Grimgroove wrote:Angry Pidgeon's obsession with me makes me feel very uneasy. It has never been adequatelly backed up.
Ok, give me short bullet points on why you think Qwints is scum.In post 1757, Wisdom wrote:And how can anyone think that the Safety slot became better? qwints is fucking obvscum.
Oh how I wish you were talking about me hereIn post 1758, Grimgroove wrote:Mollie is town, her posts are of such a genuinity (guinineness?) that they cannot be faked. It is impossible to do.
Do you think he was flatout lying about taking notes on the game? Because that is a shitty case and something I doubt he would lie about if he were scum.In post 1760, Wisdom wrote:I instantly smell bullshit and ask him to out all those "notes", and all he gives us is this:
Um, he posted reads IIRC? Didnt he say me, mollie, majiffy were town and then also some scattered scumreads? And asserting that hes 100% caught up is putting words in his mouth and not even remotely possibly true IMHO.In post 1760, Wisdom wrote:He does not have a read on 3 people after 65 pages.
Oh god this just gives me all sorts of chills. An Amrun scumflip does not conf-town you by any stretch of the imagination and Im not sure why you would think it does.In post 1762, Grimgroove wrote:Amrun is far more important, if only for my self-preservation.
If Amrun is still there the next daystage, I will challenge her myself.
Do you think Majiffy/mollie is possible?In post 1766, Wisdom wrote:mollie is probably scum for all the reasons I said.
Seriously Wisdom wtf. you aren't blatantly cooking up scum motivated bullshit, are you?In post 1583, qwints wrote:Here's how I'm feeling right now:
Town reads: Elyse; Majiffy; Mollie; AP
Scum reads: Amrun; Grim
yeah go read my games when I am scum plz do. pretty plz with sugar on top. cos you will see that this is in no way shape or form my scum game.In post 1761, Wisdom wrote:yeah no. Go read some of her games before saying such crap.In post 1758, Grimgroove wrote:Mollie is town, her posts are of such a genuinity (guinineness?) that they cannot be faked. It is impossible to do.
In post 1842, AngryPidgeon wrote:Oh god this just gives me all sorts of chills. An Amrun scumflip does not conf-town you by any stretch of the imagination and Im not sure why you would think it does.In post 1762, Grimgroove wrote:Amrun is far more important, if only for my self-preservation.
If Amrun is still there the next daystage, I will challenge her myself.
Are you sure you can read? I said he did not give reads on 3 people (myself, Venmar and enomis)In post 1843, AngryPidgeon wrote:Seriously Wisdom wtf. you aren't blatantly cooking up scum motivated bullshit, are you?
and what reasons are those? you areIn post 1766, Wisdom wrote:I don't care about your gut. mollie is probably scum for all the reasons I said. If you cannot give us reasons for mollie-town other than saying false things about her making "genuine" posts (when they are not even genuine and even if they were, it's not past mollie to fake them), you just make me more confident that you're her buddy.In post 1763, Grimgroove wrote:You'll have to accept my gut on that.