NY 165: A Large Normal (Game Over!)

[Zdenek]

You should vote him. It will help.

[TMTOLBTWNTOF]

It means to try to make what your saying less offensive or boat rocking.
I've no idea if this actually constitutes a read, just noticing that it's not the normal way other people post.

What is your read on Goat at the moment?

Regarding the meta on Calcifer, both heads, is it possible it could change due to them playing together?

That's mostly what she was talking about. What do you think of her conclusions?

I don't understand what your motivation is for pointing these out, if Serene is mason claim

Do you think Serene is confirmed town from the mason claim? If so, there's clear scum motivation with the possibility of confused town. Which do you think it is?

1. I have yet to have anyone answer my question- Is mitigation an action that is normally counted as a scum action?
2. People say both heads of you are aggressive heads, so the expectation that the other head would play aggressively might cause you to.
3. Could you give me links of scum claiming mason that succeeded? From what I gather, it's not a conventional path to take.

What Mason claim did I miss?

So I read.
I think scum are lurking. Except for maybe BulbaFenix, but they're voting Stevie, so they're in my good book again.

This is totally possible so far from what I've read. I want to see an analysis on the Lynch D1. I think that entire thing is scum-fueled. I wouldn't be surprised if scum were fencesitting.

Page 50 right now. Still got more to read. What claims did I miss in-general? Has anyone done any VCA (Vote-Count Analysis)?

Dramonic + Serene are masons.
What is your take on the first 50 pages?

[KingCrabd]

Thirdkoopa claims to have been current up to page 50 when he made that post. Issue is, the mason claim was on page 45, and pages 45-50 were pretty much entirely centered around the mason claim discussion. Scum isn't bothering to read the entire thread.

VOTE: thirdkoopa

Will get to the other stuff asked of me/etc in a few.

[Rift Adrift]

1. I have yet to have anyone answer my question- Is

mitigation

an action that is normally counted as a scum action?

I missed this question earlier, and I have no idea what you are talking about. What prompted this? I remember someone (was it you?) calling part of a post mitigation, but can't recall anything about a mitigation action.

[TMTOLBTWNTOF]

vote: Stevie

Serene, after reading through the later stages of D1, I'd prefer that you try to behave a lot more pro-town. Thanks in advance.

This post.

[Rift Adrift]

vote: Stevie

Serene, after reading through the later stages of D1, I'd prefer that you try to behave a lot more pro-town. Thanks in advance.

This post.

Something like that, posted to a player who is confirmed or presumed town and not pulling their weight, is not unusual coming from any alignment in my experience. It's usually said with a big helping of exasperation when coming from a town player, but play style is relevant. Orcinus' dram vote is pretty much on the opposite end of that continuum. In orcinus' case, I don't consider it alignment indicative because play style is relevant.

[Rift Adrift]

Thirdkoopa claims to have been current up to page 50 when he made that post. Issue is, the mason claim was on page 45, and pages 45-50 were pretty much entirely centered around the mason claim discussion. Scum isn't bothering to read the entire thread.

VOTE: thirdkoopa

Will get to the other stuff asked of me/etc in a few.

In games this size from what I've seen, scum usually have daytime communications. I'm not sure if it's safe to assume, but I want to assume it. Even if scum don't have daytime talk, wouldn't it be a topic of conversation on night 1?

thirdkoopa is in my scumpile for a bunch of other reasons.

[Serene]

Scum don't always have day talk in larges, it's mod dependent

Letters, I don't know offhand specific games where scum claimed mason successfully, though I know it has happened. I will say that one of my other heads and I claimed masons together as scum in Gay Mafia and pretty much lost us the game. Dumbest thing I ever did and I would not repeat that.

[Serene]

I disagree with DGB and feel Orc is pretty obviously town right now


I think he's a bit of a madman but hell we all go a little mad sometimes

[Zdenek]

3. Could you give me links of scum claiming mason that succeeded? From what I gather, it's not a conventional path to take.

Day one, I have never seen it.
Near the end of the game, it happened in Max's The Aftermath, and I think that is the only time I've seen it.

[Serene]

I've never seen it day 1.


I don't remember it in aftermath but I do remember NOT CLAIMING MY TRACKER GUILTY ON FATE


And then getting NKd by SpyreX

[StevieT92]

I disagree with DGB and feel Orc is pretty obviously town right now


I think he's a bit of a madman but hell we all go a little mad sometimes

This whole game is insane

[StevieT92]

Can we wagon BRO now or do i need to post more ISO of him?

unvote, vote: BROseidon

[Serene]

Do you have any other reads?

[StevieT92]

Definite Scum: BRO, King Crabd, Zdenek
Leaning Scum: Letters, Calcifer, Metal Sonic, StubbsKVM, BulbaFenix
Null/Scum: Calcifer, Thirdkoopa, Shadi
Leaning Town: The Goat, serene
Definitely Town: Orcinus

[Rift Adrift]

I'm insulted.

[StevieT92]

youre town too 8)

[Serene]

Definite Scum: BRO, King Crabd, Zdenek
Leaning Scum: Letters, Calcifer, Metal Sonic, StubbsKVM, BulbaFenix
Null/Scum: Calcifer, Thirdkoopa, Shadi
Leaning Town: The Goat, serene
Definitely Town: Orcinus

Switch the

leaning scum

to

scum

, the

scum

to

townies

and you're good.

[DeasVail]

I haven't seen PV post in a while, so I'll just do a vote count. Please let me know in bold any mistakes.

Vote Count 2-3

(as of Post 2817)

BulbaFenix (3)

- Zdenek, DOMO, Baby Spice,

StevieT92 (3)

- BROseidon, The Goat, StubbsKVM

Thirdkoopa (3)

- Cephrir, Calcifer, KingCrabd

DOMO (2)

- Ankamius, BulbaFenix

Zdenek (2)

- Brian Hollywood, Metal Sonic

Dramonic (1)

- orcinus_theoriginal

orcinus_theoriginal (1)

- Serene

BROseidon (1)

- StevieT92

Not Voting (5)

- dramonic, Shadi1337, Thirdkoopa, TMTOLBTWNTOF, Rift Adrift

With 21 alive, it takes 11 to lynch

Deadline:

Wednesday, July 24, at 9am Central Time

Replacing:

No one

Prods:

Brian Hollywood, Dramonic

V/LAs:

None

[Cephrir]

Definite Scum: BRO, King Crabd, Zdenek
Leaning Scum: Letters, Calcifer, Metal Sonic, StubbsKVM, BulbaFenix
Null/Scum: Calcifer, Thirdkoopa, Shadi
Leaning Town: The Goat, serene
Definitely Town: Orcinus

Tell me about KingCrabd and Metal Sonic. I'd also like to hear your personal reasons for suspecting Calcifer if you haven't already mentioned them. Since I already know Zdenek is basically mutual OMGUS at this point, I won't bother with that.

[Cephrir]

Upon briefly ISOing Stevie I can't really figure out why he seems dead set on Bro. I mean he iso'd Bro, posted about his posts, mentioned a couple quotes he didn't like, and apparently that's supposed to constitute a #1 scum read? =/

[Calcifer]

If anything suggesting dram be vigged is a towntell

please don't say this.
please don't break my heart, cephrir.

Nacho bought up some cephrir meta that I've been going back to. Surprising that he hasn't gone back to it

Ceephrir's gone back to normal.

1. I have yet to have anyone answer my question- Is mitigation an action that is normally counted as a scum action?

I don't operate in scumtells. Is mitigating scummy? Usually, probably. Depends on the context.

3. Could you give me links of scum claiming mason that succeeded? From what I gather, it's not a conventional path to take.

It's not a conventional path. Does that make them confirmed town?

[dramonic]

Dram needs to be vigged

Do you always vig your masons?

[Serene]

Do you always vig your masons?

Orcinus is propelled by the wind. He spins in every direction.

[Zdenek]

Since I already know Zdenek is basically mutual OMGUS at this point, I won't bother with that.

DIAF.