Mini 1468: Legends of the Hidden Temple- Game Over!

[Amrun]

You all are barking up the wrong tree. Lol

Maybe I'm wrong about Elyse, maybe I'm not. But building an entire scum team around someone who has not flipped is lol.

[Wisdom]

Well don't worry about that, you'll flip soon.

[Amrun]

You keep saying that but I am not dead yet.

[Wisdom]

Do you want to be dead?
You can always make that happen.

[Amrun]

I am not self hammering, but I do think I should probably be dead, yes. Wanting to die is one thing, but actively playing against your wincon is quite another and I refuse to do it.

[Wisdom]

k then, someone will hammer you eventually, be patient.

[Majiffy]

I, for one, am getting thoroughly

im

patient.

[Grimgroove]

enomis is here! enomis can do it!
Do it enomis! Hammer Amrun and set us free!

[enomis]

HEY ENOMIS,

Care to explain why you have 1 (ONE) vote this game?

Please rank the other 3 people that can be lynched today besides yourself.

Hmmm... Dunnoe.

[Haschel Cedricson]

The pool of players eligible to be lynched today consists of:

Amrun
enomis

Elyse
qwints

Here are the current votes:

Amrun(5) - Venmar, Grimgroove, pirate mollie, Majiffy, Wisdom
enomis(3) - AngryPidgeon, qwintz, Elyse
qwints (2) - Amrun
Elyse (0) -

Not Voting (1) - enomis,

With 10 players alive, it will take 6 votes to lynch.

[Elyse]

@Mod

V/LA until Wednesday the 17th

[Amrun]

mod, do I have 2 votes?

[Elyse]

Wisdom you are fucking retarded. I'm sorry but that past interaction with Grim has to be the DUMBEST series of posts I've ever read on this site. Ever. PLEASE pull your head out of yours and Grim's asses and see that Amrun isn't scum, I'm not scum, and Grim/enomis/qwints ARE scum. Thanks.

Dunno about taurus, but this looks to me like the scumteam is NS/Amrun/Elyse, Elyse did that on purpose, and Amrun used that to townread her.

Hello double standard.
It's fine when you townread me about it but when someone else does, I'm scum faking it and my partner is using it to townread me? Wtf is that?

Because she questioned why I was so certain that he was flipping town. That would show a townie who doesn't know what NS is going to flip and finds me, who supported "NS is compromise, he's surely flipping town", suspicious.
But Amrun's defence of it makes me believe that it could have been faked.

Once again, why is Amrun's defense of me so different than yours? You townread me from it. All fine and good. Amrun does the same. I'm scum faking it. What gives? Yes, I understand Amrun has been scummy but she didn't know how many scum there were and SHE DOESN'T MAKE SENSE AS ANYONE'S SCUM TEAMMATE. You seem to be trying to push her lynch saying she could be scum with me, but hello, there are FOUR people on the scumteam and you only have three. Who's the fourth? Answer: no one.

And if NS flips town then idk I'll have to reevaluate my reads.

But you have a point that this^ could be scum. She doesn't care what happens if NS flips town, and she doesn't have an alternative scumteam for that case. It could be because she knows this isn't going to happen.

No, it's because my townreads is/were strong enough that PoE worked and I was sure of NS scum. And what did you expect me to say? A Nobody Special townflip would have caused me to change my reads. I don't have a list of reads ready for you for every possible scenario.

1249 merely shows she has not put much thought in the possibilty that NS is not scum, and just looks at the person who happens to be around and adds some half-baked reason to it.

Look at the last sentence here:

Yes. PoE is strong.

And if NS flips town then idk I'll have to reevaluate my reads.

She claims to have found the four-man scumteam by a mere PoE. Nobody Special is therefore a scumread of hers. Does this strike you as a striking argumentation for NS scum?

Yet, despite this, she did not even think of a situation where NS is not scum. She would have to re-evaluate her reads only after the flip. This betrays a particularly strong "NS = scum" mindset, a mindset which is not explained by NS' play at the time.

Fishy business.

First of all, you can't criticize ANYONE'S view on NS.

But I'll humor you anyway. My townreads are strong enough that I'm very confident the scumteam is NS/qwints/Grim/enomis. I'm not going to waste my time trying to find a townread scummy when my initial scumteam isn't even wrong yet. You're accusing me of not doing work I didn't need to do. How is that scummy at all?

I think we've hit the jackpot there.
But who the hell is the fourth scum in that case?

Are you fucking serious? You "hit the jackpot"?

If Elyse is scum, then the conclusion she made that "there can't be scum-scum teams" would probably mean there are. It already felt like a forced conclusion when she made it, but now that I'm thinking about it she could be scum with Safety and the whole thing could be faked anyway.

Why would I even bring that up if I was scum?

And lol that I'm scum with Safety. Yeah definitely. That's why I wanted to lynch him first today.

[qwints]

HEY ENOMIS,

Care to explain why you have 1 (ONE) vote this game?

Please rank the other 3 people that can be lynched today besides yourself.

Hmmm... Dunnoe.

Why is someone who posts like this not lynched yet?

[Elyse]

Yeah seriously

[Grimgroove]

1249 merely shows she has not put much thought in the possibilty that NS is not scum, and just looks at the person who happens to be around and adds some half-baked reason to it.

Look at the last sentence here:

Yes. PoE is strong.

And if NS flips town then idk I'll have to reevaluate my reads.

She claims to have found the four-man scumteam by a mere PoE. Nobody Special is therefore a scumread of hers. Does this strike you as a striking argumentation for NS scum?

Yet, despite this, she did not even think of a situation where NS is not scum. She would have to re-evaluate her reads only after the flip. This betrays a particularly strong "NS = scum" mindset, a mindset which is not explained by NS' play at the time.

Fishy business.

First of all, you can't criticize ANYONE'S view on NS.

Of course I can, barring any misreps I am perfectly capable of explaining my stance on NS. I did. Several times. You don't want me to do that again do you?

But I'll humor you anyway. My townreads are strong enough that I'm very confident the scumteam is NS/qwints/Grim/enomis. I'm not going to waste my time trying to find a townread scummy when my initial scumteam isn't even wrong yet.

Explain your townreads.
Apart from my name I can actually see where you're coming from. Hmm. Hmm? Hmm!

You're accusing me of not doing work I didn't need to do. How is that scummy at all?

Didn't I just explain how that is scummy?
Why yes, I believe I did.

Enomis' last post was terribly scummy, I agree. So terribly scummy it couldn't come from scum.

I can already sense the hairs standing up on the back of your neck (shame on you for having those) when seeing the above logic, but it is what it is.

If I would drop my tunnel on Amrun for a bit (maybe I should), I could see this:

Elyse - enomis - Angry Pïdgeon

?

Discuss.

UNVOTE:

[Grimgroove]

Nah.

VOTE: Amrun

[Grimgroove]

Grmbl.

Elyse is too confident in Amrun being town.
MAybe she's right.
If she is, she will use Amrun's flip against me.
The only reason why Elyse could be confident in Amrun town, is if Elyse is scum.
Becuase Amrun has given nobody any reason whatsoever to read her as town.
We should lynch Elyse first.
Elyse, is your V/LA a V or more of an LA?

Grmbl.

This game! THIS GAME! Blarghl.

VOTE: Elyse

[Elyse]

Alright the only thing worthwhile responding to from that post is explaining my townreads, which I'd be happy to do.

Venmar - Have similar thoughts as him, very early townread (usually my stronger ones), challenged scum (SHUT UP WISDOM )
Amrun - Didn't know how many scum there were, doesn't make sense with anyone as scum (besides me I guess but I know I'm town), similar thought process to me
Mollie - Once again early townread, posting reads as genuine, her frustrations seem townie because she's not really in any danger of being lynched, I feel like if she was scum she would keep her cool until she was in the lynchpool at least (still waiting to dance)
Majiffy - Mollie townreads him, ballsy challenge
Wisdom - He seems willing to work with too many people to be scum, always re-evaluating reads, sometimes he changes them too much and for bad reasons but his play is generally town
AP - explanation of RL issues seems to genuine to fake

That's everyone right?

If I was wrong on anyone, I guess it would be Majiffy->Venmar although Majiffy scum would probably incriminate Mollie.

P-edit:
You vote me for having a townread on someone and not explaining why before you let me give reasons for them. And why are you scared I will use Amrun's flip against you? She's flipping scum, right? You just said she's given nobody any reason whatsoever to read her as town.

CAN EVERYONE PLEASE SEE HOW BAD THAT VOTE WAS?

And it's more of a V.

Grim is obvscum. But enomis literally works with EVERYONE as scum. I'll try to make a post soon about who fits with who and try to narrow down PoE.

[qwints]

Grim, stop taking crazy pills and get on enomis. Elyse is town.

[Grimgroove]

If I have to believe you lot, everyone is town but me.

Elyse giving so many townreads is indeed very townish. Scum wouldn't do that in a nightless.

VOTE: Amrun

Join me qwints!

[qwints]

Grim, why not drop the "too scummy to be scum" nonsense and vote enomis?

[Grimgroove]

Did enomis say in the scum-QT he doesn't feel like playing anymore anyway?

[Grimgroove]

I need to take a break, my brain is overheating.

[Grimgroove]

UNVOTE:

Starting from Monday, I'm ISO'ing the lot of you. I feel that through my "taking the piss-play" (does not equal piss-play) recently, I seem to have lost touch with and the overview of this game.

I'll start with Amrun, maybe already tomorrow.

I still think Amrun is scum, through her own behavior. It's true it's difficult to link her to others, but fuck that.
I'm confident that through ISO'ing her the case will be made.

But I would prefer not to have her lynched because I get this say. It is unlikely, but possible I change my read on her, and I don't want to become the VI-lynch just because I didn't focus. People have been calling me obvscum, and the only reason why I let them get away with it is because I've been acting like an idiot at times.

See you after the weekend! Enjoy your tranquil Sunday.