Newbie 1390 -- Game Over

[Nobody Special]

Votecount 2.05

Guyett - 2 - JasonWazza, TheGarantula
goodmorning - 1 - Derivan
JasonWazza - 1 - Guyett
TheGarantula - 1 - TheIrishPope
TheIrishPope - 1 - goodmorning

Not Voting: ryhx

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2013-07-19 05:01:24)

[TheIrishPope]

Yep, Carlsberg
It's not like I intentionally wanted to get modkilled sorry
The case on Gar is looking great

[Guyett]

Share it with us Will you then!!! Like i said i have as strongest townread but i have had a night in the back of my head over the past week that he might actually be scum.. Its only a small one but I'd like to hear tour reasoning behind that vote.

[TheIrishPope]

You see? I replaced in and saw him as scum immediately, while you were "in" there from the start; it's good to have a replacement's point of view
What I meant to say was that it's close to being finished patience my friend
Any reads, Guyett and Wazza?

[Guyett]

Well we know deri is town and i currently have rhyx and gar as likely town... As do most people i think.
That leaves 2 scum out of 4 people.. Me you Jason and gm.
I know I'm town so its a choice between 3. Your original slot feg was a bit suspicious and gm and that slot have been at each other all game. I think 1 of those 2 slots are likely scum. I have Jason as likely scum but I'd like to hear your thoughts on gar as i now think one of either Jason or gar are scum. (likely Jason at this point)

[TheIrishPope]

Wait, did I miss something? Why is deri town?

[Guyett]

He pr claimed towards the end of day 1 as bullet proof town and best flipped town tracker when he died

[JasonWazza]

Again, not cleared, a doc has no reason to claim.

My read on Guyett is obvious, i'm not sure on the second yet.

[TheIrishPope]

What if he's scum fakeclaiming? What if the real PR is hidden still? It might be the perfect excuse to cover up a "nightkill"

[Guyett]

Fake claim on day 1 dangerous. There could bead and deri could be lying but he claimed a role that is possible given we know 1 town pr

[goodmorning]

Again, not cleared, a doc has no reason to claim.

A Doc has every reason to claim. It's far more likely if Deri is lying about his PR that he's Scum rather than Town.

[goodmorning]

^It's the same 1-for-1 trade we do when a Cop gets a guilty.

[JasonWazza]

Doc can still pull a protect.

And a protect can mean a lot more then a 1-for-1

[Guyett]

Getting a scum out now is better than mislynching and going to lylo tbh

[Guyett]

That being said i think if we did have a doc he should remain silent as i 'm not sure who I'd believe... Try block a kill first perhaps

[goodmorning]

Doc can still pull a protect.

And a protect can mean a lot more then a 1-for-1

We're still at 2 Scum, anything to get rid of one would be worth it in my books.
Also to protect, one would need to guess correctly who's up for death.

And that's not easy.

[Guyett]

Jason 2 thing;
Could you put your reasons for me being scum in one coherent post please. Preferably with something more than the drunk hammer.
Secondly if you get your lynch on me done what Will you do when i flip town? We'll be in lylo and you and gar Will likely be targeted.

Same questions for gar too while we're at it

[JasonWazza]

Jason 2 thing;
Could you put your reasons for me being scum in one coherent post please. Preferably with something more than the drunk hammer.
Secondly if you get your lynch on me done what Will you do when i flip town? We'll be in lylo and you and gar Will likely be targeted.

Same questions for gar too while we're at it

a) in a bit, maybe.
b) IF you flip town, i will re-analyze with all the information, and probably wait a little for a doctor claim.

[goodmorning]

Secondly if you get your lynch on me done what Will you do when i flip town? We'll be in lylo and you and gar Will likely be targeted.

Why would Gar be targeted over TIP? And what do you mean by "targeted" anyway? Do explain.

[Guyett]

Because both of them have bandwagoned up an really pushed for my lynch

[TheGarantula]

The case on Gar is looking great

inb4 this ends with you saying, "It was a reaction test."

Could you put your reasons for me being scum in one coherent post please.

Here are some reasons:
You have done a lot of buddying. (e.g. Post 77, which seems to try and put words in my mouth)
You have been very prone to OMGUS. (e.g. Your votes on bestwillcui and Cabd, and possibly JasonWazza now)
You have probably set a new record in terms of the number of times someone has called themselves townie in a single game.
Your cases haven't been solid. (Our bestwillcui mislynch being the exception in my mind :/)
You had the very weird "vote me, but don't vote me" phase near the start of Day 2.
Your vote seems to be lower in value than the Mark after WW1.
Dat hammer.

We'll be in lylo and you and gar Will likely be targeted.

Are you saying I'm likely to be NK'd or bandwagoned if you get lynched?

[TheIrishPope]

If it was a reaction test, you'd have failed miserably

[Guyett]

The case on Gar is looking great

inb4 this ends with you saying, "It was a reaction test."

Could you put your reasons for me being scum in one coherent post please.

Here are some reasons:
1) You have done a lot of buddying. (e.g. Post 77, which seems to try and put words in my mouth)
2)You have been very prone to OMGUS. (e.g. Your votes on bestwillcui and Cabd, and possibly JasonWazza now)
3)You have probably set a new record in terms of the number of times someone has called themselves townie in a single game.
4)Your cases haven't been solid. (Our bestwillcui mislynch being the exception in my mind :/)
5) You had the very weird "vote me, but don't vote me" phase near the start of Day 2.
6)Your vote seems to be lower in value than the Mark after WW1.
7)Dat hammer.

We'll be in lylo and you and gar Will likely be targeted.

Are you saying I'm likely to be NK'd or bandwagoned if you get lynched?

1)well in a previous post you had me as town... not exactly putting words in your mouth.
2) yeah sometimes I've done that... didn't know it was exclusively scum that did OMGUS though
3) so... I'll keep on doing it and Nobody Special will use it when he reveals my role too.
4) my case on best was solid, as was the case on Cabd imo... Cabd was inactive and looked scummy until he finally posted reads at which point I backed off. Best behaved in a way that could have been scummy or newb... we all thought he was acting odd.
5)that was because I was so pissed off with myself for that stupid drunk hammer. I'm surprised I wasn't hammered there and then tbh. I'd have understood it as it looked super scummy but I know that if I was hammered you'd be in lylo
6) how is that related to my alignment? did you just add that in as a witty joke?
7) already explained.

I'm saying there's a chance you'll get bandwagoned if I get lynched.

It is obvious I'm being set up as a scapegoat by mafia after the hammer.. you'll see after my flip or if one of the people leading my wagon is lynched

[TheGarantula]

1)well in a previous post you had me as town... not exactly putting words in your mouth.
2) yeah sometimes I've done that... didn't know it was exclusively scum that did OMGUS though
3) so... I'll keep on doing it and Nobody Special will use it when he reveals my role too.
4) my case on best was solid, as was the case on Cabd imo... Cabd was inactive and looked scummy until he finally posted reads at which point I backed off. Best behaved in a way that could have been scummy or newb... we all thought he was acting odd.
5)that was because I was so pissed off with myself for that stupid drunk hammer. I'm surprised I wasn't hammered there and then tbh. I'd have understood it as it looked super scummy but I know that if I was hammered you'd be in lylo
6) how is that related to my alignment? did you just add that in as a witty joke?
7) already explained.

1. No, I didn't. I've read you as null or lower all game.
2. Nothing is done exclusively by scum. Almost all your votes have been against someone voting you.
3. It looks desperate, like scum flailing when pressured. You start doing it the second someone votes you.
4. Your case on Cabd was pure OMGUS mixed with grievance about his delayed ISOs.
6. Your vote has been tossed around so casually it's as if you don't care whom it lands on half of the time. It seems as if you are moving it a lot in order to feign productivity.

It is obvious I'm being set up as a scapegoat by mafia after the hammer.. you'll see after my flip or if one of the people leading my wagon is lynched

Why is this obvious...? When bestwillcui was being pressured he could have said the same thing about you. I'd bet that scum loves to watch town lynch town.

[Guyett]

2) how many of them were posted after they voted for me?
3) I'll say it again, if you want lylo on day 3 lynch me today.
4) was that the first or 2nd time I was on his case?
6) examples?

ok lets look back over events.
game is tied at 4-4 with a few hours left
I come home after ~16 hours drinking due to my graduation and in my drunken folly hammer someone
Mafia then kill the other person that I mainly suspected on day 1... if I was mafia I'd have killed rhyx or gar then as obv townies
WHY THE HELL WOULD I BRING MORE ATTENTION ON MYSELF AFTER THE QUICKHAMMER?