The Red Wedding - The Goose is Loose

[Desperado]

Unvote: Nexus
Vote: macmollie

That response was horrific. You didn't answer my question because you can't. I have 4 completed town games on MS--Pokemon was abandoned D2, Curse of Peladon only lasted 6 pages, and I died N1 in House of Cards.

So you're either basing your meta read entirely on my play in WWE, or you're talking out of your ass, because otherwise there's no way for you to know what Town Desp looks like. So which is it? And why couldn't you just answer my question the first time rather than dodging it with whatever ^^^ that is?

[Desperado]

I do not like Desperado's case. (stick that in your pipe, macmollie )

then mebbe you will be able to eke out some town cred by voting him cos

I don't think we are seeing town desp here

it will buy you some time I guess

Tell me more about what town desperado is like, mollie, and which games you're using to found the meta read.

Because I have a hunch that you're just talking out of your ass right now.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

scum flail spotted itt

your post don't come from a town POV

town posts >>>> town motivation >>>> town motivated posts

explain the town motivation in your posts.

*anticipates aTe*

Unvote: Nexus
Vote: macmollie

That response was horrific. You didn't answer my question because you can't. I have 4 completed town games on MS--Pokemon was abandoned D2, Curse of Peladon only lasted 6 pages, and I died N1 in House of Cards.

So you're either basing your meta read entirely on my play in WWE, or you're talking out of your ass, because otherwise there's no way for you to know what Town Desp looks like. So which is it? And why couldn't you just answer my question the first time rather than dodging it with whatever ^^^ that is?

Quoting them so there's no confusion.

[Generic]

Was that something noteworthy then desperado? I know in mafia everything gets analysed but that amounted to three fifths of fuck all in the end. I enquired on something mildly scummy in isolation, you countered with the reason,

I accepted that it made sense.

What mare can be gained from that?

It's more like you just dropped it until I asked you why you called my vote out if you weren't actually interested in examining the reasoning, the same way you ignored this post:

Hey Generic...why did you call me out for my naked vote if you weren't actually interested in the motivation for it? You seriously just wanted me to say "for all of the reasons I said yesterday..." as if that wouldn't be implied in the first place?

What are your thoughts on Nexus' townread of Metal yesterday?

As I keep pointing out desperado, just because you made the points on day 1 doesn't mean I saw them. In case you hadn't noticed I was a little preoccupied on day 1 with matters of my own.

On that, I will have to have a read back, because depending on how they sound in and out of context it will either be town genuinely looking past the moronic attitude to see town tells on ms or it will have been white knighting... I shall Iso now and see what I make of it.

Yeah yeah I get that, but now you know why I was voting Nexus, and you haven't done anything with it. The conversation just sort of...ended. So why did you call me out on my vote if you didn't plan on following through once you received the information you were looking for?

About nexus, He never goes all out on the 'MS is town' comments, they feel light and fairly genuine. Town reading town is what I would say based on those comments.

I agree that context is important, so why did you ignore the broader context of Nexus' previous treatment of "bad players?" He clearly thinks that bad = scum, and yet Metal's brand of bad was somehow town.

I think the contradiction is scum motivated. What do you think?

So you cared enough to call out my vote on Nexus and implicate me as Amrun's partner as a result, but not enough to actually discuss my read on Nexus. Why?

You really love a misrep don't you.
You naked voted. I'm supposed to assume there is a reason behind it because your laziness should spark my need to homework you?
And timing wise it came after Venmar offered two names I believe (not amrun) so naked voting immediately after that option was given and I'm supposed to know you meant something else behind it.

I had other things to hold my attention day 1, ms tunnelling the hell out of me for one. So to me yes the topic was do e because your laziness had to be redacted by a follow up explanation.

You have a paranoia issue desperado. Is that panic or do you just have no big leads and are flapping?

[Desperado]

A town aligned Frey? What?

Ummmmmm so yeah we should lynch Nexus or Amrun, discuss.

I didn't misrep you, and what do you mean I have a "paranoia issue?"

[Desperado]

And even now you're dodging the questions. Why are you going out of your way to not to talk about Nexus?

[Desperado]

You have a paranoia issue desperado. Is that panic or do you just have no big leads and are flapping?

And triple post, but you want to talk about a misrep...

We're talking about my Nexus lead right now! Or at least I am, as long as you refuse to do so.

[Generic]

You mean the nexus lead you just dropped to omgus macmollie?

Your case against nexus revolves around him scum hunting based on his opinion of the posts of others and only limiting the language to bad or how he felt about the post. Yet he didn't scum read MS for having bad posts. So your point is he must be scum because he didn't find a town player scummy when he found less popular wagons scummier because of bad posts?

A mafia player who is not interested in a player everyone disliked and nobody seems to be being chastised over the lynching of to favour a push on... one other player that I can see? And even in that 224 post he actually says at the time he is happy with killer apple or MS to be lynched.

Yet you are so keen for me to analyse this single point case on nexus that you cant even commit to the vote... This is panic deperado, you took a route you are now trying to climb out of with your pride in tact.

[Desperado]

So when I stop voting Nexus the lead goes away?

Yes, the case on Nexus revolves around his ISO being filled with scumreads that come from players doing bad things, but then Metal Sonic does the objectively Most Bad Thing of D1, but Nexus says he's bad but town? It's a scum motivated contradiction.

I don't even know what you're implying in your last line. I can't even commit to the vote? How do you figure that?

And please explain how that's me OMGUSing mollie when I started the conversation by FOSing her, and she is pretty blatantly making up her meta read on me? She's approaching me as if she knows what town desperado looks like but there's really no way for her to know that for sure. You know how else I know she hasn't actually researched my meta? She thinks I'm terrible at playing scum.

[macmollie]

I do not like Desperado's case. (stick that in your pipe, macmollie )

then mebbe you will be able to eke out some town cred by voting him cos I don't think we are seeing town desp here

it will buy you some time I guess

It's possible, though at the moment if I were to vote one of your scumreads it would be Dekes.

dekes will get himself lynched unless he blazes into the game with all barrels firing. I am not worried about dekes as much as I am worried about scummy looking role-fishing you and terrible should be today's lynch desp.

but how sweet of you to suddenly take an interest in my scumreads.

tell me moar about how protown you are by laying out the foundation for further analysis later in the game I mean I guess you aren't worried about a nk huh.

[Nexus]

Metal Sonic does the objectively Most Bad Thing of D1,

Do you consider all fake day kills the objectively most BAD THING OF DAY 1?

Because if you do you're probably dumb.

It caused discussion and generated activity. So yeah.

[Desperado]

lol, desp omg I wanna play every game with you if you are this easy to read

you gonna adress my point about what are your new thoughts in the d2 round or are you going to try to push that lame pathetic point of me not responding to what you said on d1? I mean really?

and you saying I am...hostile? omg god the lulz cos I think there some people who might know me in this game who know that I am not being hostile.

lol

I mean I am really smiling and chuckling to myself you are terrible at this.

desp you are terrible at playing scum that is what you are terrible at.

you are fosing me for "ignoring" you, but d1 was over and done and I see nothing new that you have posted on d2 for me to respond to and you are calling me scummy for it and trying to paint some nefarious intention around it.

mebbe you ought to go and think about that for a minute

I do not like Desperado's case. (stick that in your pipe, macmollie )

then mebbe you will be able to eke out some town cred by voting him cos I don't think we are seeing town desp here

it will buy you some time I guess

These three posts very clearly are saying "I know Desperado's meta, and this is not town Desperado."

Your opinion on my meta (that this isn't town-me and that I am terrible at playing scum) are impossible to support and spectacularly wrong, respectively.

So why are you lying about your meta on me mollie?

[Generic]

So when I stop voting Nexus the lead goes away?

Yes, the case on Nexus revolves around his ISO being filled with scumreads that come from players doing bad things, but then Metal Sonic does the objectively Most Bad Thing of D1, but Nexus says he's bad but town? It's a scum motivated contradiction.

I don't even know what you're implying in your last line. I can't even commit to the vote? How do you figure that?

And please explain how that's me OMGUSing mollie when I started the conversation by FOSing her, and she is pretty blatantly making up her meta read on me? She's approaching me as if she knows what town desperado looks like but there's really no way for her to know that for sure. You know how else I know she hasn't actually researched my meta? She thinks I'm terrible at playing scum.

You are so keen for me to return to this lead you seem to think is cast iron against nexus, but you have abandoned it in favour of voting mollie. And it's OMGUS cos you may have started poking at mollie with suspicious intent, but you conveniently only voted after she voted you.

[macmollie]

So when I stop voting Nexus the lead goes away?

Yes, the case on Nexus revolves around his ISO being filled with scumreads that come from players doing bad things, but then Metal Sonic does the objectively Most Bad Thing of D1, but Nexus says he's bad but town? It's a scum motivated contradiction.

I don't even know what you're implying in your last line. I can't even commit to the vote? How do you figure that?

And please explain how that's me OMGUSing mollie when I started the conversation by FOSing her, and she is pretty blatantly making up her meta read on me? She's approaching me as if she knows what town desperado looks like but there's really no way for her to know that for sure. You know how else I know she hasn't actually researched my meta? She thinks I'm terrible at playing scum.

well if you flip scum I will have a baseline won't I

and I like to think that I am not retarded at this game and can sometimes spot scum w/o any meta at all.

want proof? sometimes it is early, sometimes it is late and sometimes never at all

you look scummy desp

[Desperado]

Metal Sonic does the objectively Most Bad Thing of D1,

Do you consider all fake day kills the objectively most BAD THING OF DAY 1?

Because if you do you're probably dumb.

It caused discussion and generated activity. So yeah.

The only thing it accomplished was getting him lynched. Can you point to some good discussion and activity that it generated?

PEdit: Generic, are you saying that I can't have multiple reads? I don't understand what you're criticizing exactly. I haven't even come close to abandoning it, what gave you that idea

And what is "convenient" about it? I started poking her with suspicious intent (that's what scumhunting is) and because she immediately voted me I no longer get to vote her without it being labeled OMGUS? What do you consider her vote?

[inHimshallibe]

I do not like Desperado's case. (stick that in your pipe, macmollie ;))

then mebbe you will be able to eke out some town cred by voting him cos I don't think we are seeing town desp here

it will buy you some time I guess

It's possible, though at the moment if I were to vote one of your scumreads it would be Dekes.

dekes will get himself lynched unless he blazes into the game with all barrels firing. I am not worried about dekes as much as I am worried about scummy looking role-fishing you and terrible should be today's lynch desp.

but how sweet of you to suddenly take an interest in my scumreads.

tell me moar about how protown you are by laying out the foundation for further analysis later in the game I mean I guess you aren't worried about a nk huh.

I'm your Huckleberry.

I try to at least take some note of everyone's scumreads. Certainly does help later in the game. To that end, I should make some death tiers.

[Nexus]

DO YOU CONSIDER ALL FAKE DAY KILLS TO BE OBJECTIVELY THE MOST BAD THING OF DAY 1?

It allows us to see who jumped on him as a mislynch, how people reacted to the Daykill etc.

You're just being obstinate now.

[Desperado]

So when I stop voting Nexus the lead goes away?

Yes, the case on Nexus revolves around his ISO being filled with scumreads that come from players doing bad things, but then Metal Sonic does the objectively Most Bad Thing of D1, but Nexus says he's bad but town? It's a scum motivated contradiction.

I don't even know what you're implying in your last line. I can't even commit to the vote? How do you figure that?

And please explain how that's me OMGUSing mollie when I started the conversation by FOSing her, and she is pretty blatantly making up her meta read on me? She's approaching me as if she knows what town desperado looks like but there's really no way for her to know that for sure. You know how else I know she hasn't actually researched my meta? She thinks I'm terrible at playing scum.

well if you flip scum I will have a baseline won't I

and I like to think that I am not retarded at this game and can sometimes spot scum w/o any meta at all.

want proof? sometimes it is early, sometimes it is late and sometimes never at all

you look scummy desp

That isn't what you said. You said "this is not town desp." Meaning you know what town desp looks like and this isn't it.

You

clearly

implied you were using meta to establish your read and are now backtracking.

[Desperado]

DO YOU CONSIDER ALL FAKE DAY KILLS TO BE OBJECTIVELY THE MOST BAD THING OF DAY 1?

It allows us to see who jumped on him as a mislynch, how people reacted to the Daykill etc.

You're just being obstinate now.

I don't see how the question is relevant. In this game it was the most objectively bad thing D1.

So it's a better brand of bad because it got reactions? Can you quote the best three analyses of those reactions for me?

[macmollie]

lol, desp omg I wanna play every game with you if you are this easy to read

you gonna adress my point about what are your new thoughts in the d2 round or are you going to try to push that lame pathetic point of me not responding to what you said on d1? I mean really?

and you saying I am...hostile? omg god the lulz cos I think there some people who might know me in this game who know that I am not being hostile.

lol

I mean I am really smiling and chuckling to myself you are terrible at this.

desp you are terrible at playing scum that is what you are terrible at.

you are fosing me for "ignoring" you, but d1 was over and done and I see nothing new that you have posted on d2 for me to respond to and you are calling me scummy for it and trying to paint some nefarious intention around it.

mebbe you ought to go and think about that for a minute

I do not like Desperado's case. (stick that in your pipe, macmollie )

then mebbe you will be able to eke out some town cred by voting him cos I don't think we are seeing town desp here

it will buy you some time I guess

These three posts very clearly are saying "I know Desperado's meta, and this is not town Desperado."

Your opinion on my meta (that this isn't town-me and that I am terrible at playing scum) are impossible to support and spectacularly wrong, respectively.

So why are you lying about your meta on me mollie?

those 3 posts are saying I think I have sense of your personality.

and that isn't why I am scumreading you. it has to do with your posts not striking me as town.

[Desperado]

lol, desp omg I wanna play every game with you if you are this easy to read

you gonna adress my point about what are your new thoughts in the d2 round or are you going to try to push that lame pathetic point of me not responding to what you said on d1? I mean really?

and you saying I am...hostile? omg god the lulz cos I think there some people who might know me in this game who know that I am not being hostile.

lol

I mean I am really smiling and chuckling to myself you are terrible at this.

desp you are terrible at playing scum that is what you are terrible at.

you are fosing me for "ignoring" you, but d1 was over and done and I see nothing new that you have posted on d2 for me to respond to and you are calling me scummy for it and trying to paint some nefarious intention around it.

mebbe you ought to go and think about that for a minute

I do not like Desperado's case. (stick that in your pipe, macmollie )

then mebbe you will be able to eke out some town cred by voting him cos I don't think we are seeing town desp here

it will buy you some time I guess

These three posts very clearly are saying "I know Desperado's meta, and this is not town Desperado."

Your opinion on my meta (that this isn't town-me and that I am terrible at playing scum) are impossible to support and spectacularly wrong, respectively.

So why are you lying about your meta on me mollie?

those 3 posts are saying I think I have sense of your personality.

and that isn't why I am scumreading you. it has to do with your posts not striking me as town.

But you only have a sense of my personality from ongoing games, so why are you using that to make determinations on my alignment?

You said "I am so easy to read" when you do not have a baseline whatsoever.

[Nexus]

DO YOU CONSIDER ALL FAKE DAY KILLS TO BE OBJECTIVELY THE MOST BAD THING OF DAY 1?

It allows us to see who jumped on him as a mislynch, how people reacted to the Daykill etc.

You're just being obstinate now.

I don't see how the question is relevant. In this game it was the most objectively bad thing D1.

So it's a better brand of bad because it got reactions? Can you quote the best three analyses of those reactions for me?

Of course the question is fucking relevant. It'll help me consider how you're acting. I'm not asking the question for the lolz. If you don't want to answer it then fine.

Bed now so you can wait.

[inHimshallibe]

Time for Kill 'Em or Keep 'Em!

Kill 'Em -
Dekes
Desperado
Cabd
xReckonerx
macmollie
ChannelDelibird
Ankamius
Venmar
Amrun

Keep 'Em -
Tierce
Generic
tsunami
Nexus


Oh boy, looks like death is on the menu. I need to sort through the huge for-death pile and try to keep some more.

[Cabd]

Mollie does that sometimes. The ongoing without being ongoing thing. You just kinda get used to it, or eat a shit ton of angry yelly font in response.

[Desperado]

No,

every

fake dayvig is not objectively the most bad thing. The only other time I've seen it was from scum and it ended up getting them daykilled--obviously a win.

But in this game, Metal's fake dayvig was the worst thing anyone did.

[Desperado]

And you obviously knew that, Nexus, so I don't really understand why you beat around the bush.