The Red Wedding - The Goose is Loose

[macmollie]

HANG THE FUCK ON

[macmollie]

MOLLIE NEVER ONCE CLAIMS TO HAVE A META READ ON YOU!?

[Desperado]

Say it's rubbish if you want, but when I read this post:

I do not like Desperado's case. (stick that in your pipe, macmollie )

then mebbe you will be able to eke out some town cred by voting him cos I don't think we are seeing town desp here

it will buy you some time I guess

My immediate reaction was call bullshit on her meta read:

I do not like Desperado's case. (stick that in your pipe, macmollie )

then mebbe you will be able to eke out some town cred by voting him cos

I don't think we are seeing town desp here

it will buy you some time I guess

Tell me more about what town desperado is like, mollie, and which games you're using to found the meta read.

Because I have a hunch that you're just talking out of your ass right now.

Her first reaction was this:

I do not like Desperado's case. (stick that in your pipe, macmollie )

then mebbe you will be able to eke out some town cred by voting him cos

I don't think we are seeing town desp here

it will buy you some time I guess

Tell me more about what town desperado is like, mollie, and which games you're using to found the meta read.

Because I have a hunch that you're just talking out of your ass right now.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

scum flail spotted itt

your post don't come from a town POV

town posts >>>> town motivation >>>> town motivated posts

explain the town motivation in your posts.

*anticipates aTe*

If she wasn't using meta in her read, why did she say ^that and not the explanation she gave 20 posts later after I called her on it (which is still not very good but at least better than outright lying)?

[macmollie]

she is telling you right there why she thinks you are not town in this game.

that's not a fucking meta read.

[Desperado]

So when I stop voting Nexus the lead goes away?

Yes, the case on Nexus revolves around his ISO being filled with scumreads that come from players doing bad things, but then Metal Sonic does the objectively Most Bad Thing of D1, but Nexus says he's bad but town? It's a scum motivated contradiction.

I don't even know what you're implying in your last line. I can't even commit to the vote? How do you figure that?

And please explain how that's me OMGUSing mollie when I started the conversation by FOSing her, and she is pretty blatantly making up her meta read on me? She's approaching me as if she knows what town desperado looks like but there's really no way for her to know that for sure. You know how else I know she hasn't actually researched my meta? She thinks I'm terrible at playing scum.

well if you flip scum I will have a baseline won't I

and I like to think that I am not retarded at this game and can sometimes spot scum w/o any meta at all.

want proof? sometimes it is early, sometimes it is late and sometimes never at all

you look scummy desp

lol, desp omg I wanna play every game with you if you are this easy to read

you gonna adress my point about what are your new thoughts in the d2 round or are you going to try to push that lame pathetic point of me not responding to what you said on d1? I mean really?

and you saying I am...hostile? omg god the lulz cos I think there some people who might know me in this game who know that I am not being hostile.

lol

I mean I am really smiling and chuckling to myself you are terrible at this.

desp you are terrible at playing scum that is what you are terrible at.

you are fosing me for "ignoring" you, but d1 was over and done and I see nothing new that you have posted on d2 for me to respond to and you are calling me scummy for it and trying to paint some nefarious intention around it.

mebbe you ought to go and think about that for a minute

I do not like Desperado's case. (stick that in your pipe, macmollie )

then mebbe you will be able to eke out some town cred by voting him cos I don't think we are seeing town desp here

it will buy you some time I guess

These three posts very clearly are saying "I know Desperado's meta, and this is not town Desperado."

Your opinion on my meta (that this isn't town-me and that I am terrible at playing scum) are impossible to support and spectacularly wrong, respectively.

So why are you lying about your meta on me mollie?

those 3 posts are saying I think I have sense of your personality.

and that isn't why I am scumreading you. it has to do with your posts not striking me as town.

No she isn't.

Look mac. Mollie said "this isn't town desp." I

immediately

asked her if she was using a meta read. If she wasn't, why didn't she just say "no."?

Why did she say I'm "terrible at playing scum" as if she had a good baseline for that statement when it's

completely wrong

?

[Desperado]

What did she mean when she said "I want to play every game with you, you are so easy to read" if she wasn't talking about our ongoing games? How would she know I'm easy to read if she's never gotten a flip out of me?

[Mac]

So when I stop voting Nexus the lead goes away?

Yes, the case on Nexus revolves around his ISO being filled with scumreads that come from players doing bad things, but then Metal Sonic does the objectively Most Bad Thing of D1, but Nexus says he's bad but town? It's a scum motivated contradiction.

I don't even know what you're implying in your last line. I can't even commit to the vote? How do you figure that?

And please explain how that's me OMGUSing mollie when I started the conversation by FOSing her, and she is pretty blatantly making up her meta read on me? She's approaching me as if she knows what town desperado looks like but there's really no way for her to know that for sure. You know how else I know she hasn't actually researched my meta? She thinks I'm terrible at playing scum.

well if you flip scum I will have a baseline won't I

and I like to think that I am not retarded at this game and can sometimes spot scum w/o any meta at all.

want proof? sometimes it is early, sometimes it is late and sometimes never at all

you look scummy desp

mollie is telling you right there she hasn't got a meta read on you. it's there. in writing.

lol, desp omg I wanna play every game with you if you are this easy to read

you gonna adress my point about what are your new thoughts in the d2 round or are you going to try to push that lame pathetic point of me not responding to what you said on d1? I mean really?

and you saying I am...hostile? omg god the lulz cos I think there some people who might know me in this game who know that I am not being hostile.

lol

I mean I am really smiling and chuckling to myself you are terrible at this.

desp you are terrible at playing scum that is what you are terrible at.

you are fosing me for "ignoring" you, but d1 was over and done and I see nothing new that you have posted on d2 for me to respond to and you are calling me scummy for it and trying to paint some nefarious intention around it.

mebbe you ought to go and think about that for a minute

I do not like Desperado's case. (stick that in your pipe, macmollie )

then mebbe you will be able to eke out some town cred by voting him cos I don't think we are seeing town desp here

it will buy you some time I guess

These three posts very clearly are saying "I know Desperado's meta, and this is not town Desperado."

Your opinion on my meta (that this isn't town-me and that I am terrible at playing scum) are impossible to support and spectacularly wrong, respectively.

So why are you lying about your meta on me mollie?

those 3 posts are saying I think I have sense of your personality.

and that isn't why I am scumreading you. it has to do with your posts not striking me as town.

No she isn't.

Look mac. Mollie said "this isn't town desp." I

immediately

asked her if she was using a meta read. If she wasn't, why didn't she just say "no."?

Why did she say I'm "terrible at playing scum" as if she had a good baseline for that statement when it's

completely wrong

?

right there desp. in the bolded at the bottom. she is saying no. she is saying "those three posts are not based on meta, they are based on my sense of your personality"

and then

even SAYS she scumreads because she doesn't think your posts are town.

It. Is. There. In. Writing.

also we have now progressed from "I can't be meta'd" to "well, I could, but you haven't" and we can now FINALLY say "oh so you weren't even using meta?"

[macmollie]

So when I stop voting Nexus the lead goes away?

Yes, the case on Nexus revolves around his ISO being filled with scumreads that come from players doing bad things, but then Metal Sonic does the objectively Most Bad Thing of D1, but Nexus says he's bad but town? It's a scum motivated contradiction.

I don't even know what you're implying in your last line. I can't even commit to the vote? How do you figure that?

And please explain how that's me OMGUSing mollie when I started the conversation by FOSing her, and she is pretty blatantly making up her meta read on me? She's approaching me as if she knows what town desperado looks like but there's really no way for her to know that for sure. You know how else I know she hasn't actually researched my meta? She thinks I'm terrible at playing scum.

well if you flip scum I will have a baseline won't I

and I like to think that I am not retarded at this game and can sometimes spot scum w/o any meta at all.

want proof? sometimes it is early, sometimes it is late and sometimes never at all

you look scummy desp

mollie is telling you right there she hasn't got a meta read on you. it's there. in writing.

lol, desp omg I wanna play every game with you if you are this easy to read

you gonna adress my point about what are your new thoughts in the d2 round or are you going to try to push that lame pathetic point of me not responding to what you said on d1? I mean really?

and you saying I am...hostile? omg god the lulz cos I think there some people who might know me in this game who know that I am not being hostile.

lol

I mean I am really smiling and chuckling to myself you are terrible at this.

desp you are terrible at playing scum that is what you are terrible at.

you are fosing me for "ignoring" you, but d1 was over and done and I see nothing new that you have posted on d2 for me to respond to and you are calling me scummy for it and trying to paint some nefarious intention around it.

mebbe you ought to go and think about that for a minute

I do not like Desperado's case. (stick that in your pipe, macmollie )

then mebbe you will be able to eke out some town cred by voting him cos I don't think we are seeing town desp here

it will buy you some time I guess

These three posts very clearly are saying "I know Desperado's meta, and this is not town Desperado."

Your opinion on my meta (that this isn't town-me and that I am terrible at playing scum) are impossible to support and spectacularly wrong, respectively.

So why are you lying about your meta on me mollie?

those 3 posts are saying I think I have sense of your personality.

and that isn't why I am scumreading you. it has to do with your posts not striking me as town.

No she isn't.

Look mac. Mollie said "this isn't town desp." I

immediately

asked her if she was using a meta read. If she wasn't, why didn't she just say "no."?

Why did she say I'm "terrible at playing scum" as if she had a good baseline for that statement when it's

completely wrong

?

right there desp. in the bolded at the bottom. she is saying no. she is saying "those three posts are not based on meta, they are based on my sense of your personality"

and then

even SAYS she scumreads because she doesn't think your posts are town.

It. Is. There. In. Writing.

also we have now progressed from "I can't be meta'd" to "well, I could, but you haven't" and we can now FINALLY say "oh so you weren't even using meta?"

first slip EVUR

[Desperado]

Mac, the quote that you bolded was her 2nd reaction, which came after I voted her for her initial reaction. I brought this up myself so why are you pretending like you just caught me or something?

[Amrun]

Desperado, you are just blatantly wrong. I doubt you're doing it on purpose as either alignment, but stop now k

[Desperado]

Order of events:

Mollie says I am "so easy to read" and "terrible at this" and that "this isn't town desp."
All three of these quotes imply that she has meta on me, so I ask her what it is and how she came to those conclusions.
Mollie ignores the question, calls it scum flail, and then demands I point out the town motivation in my posts.
I vote her for lying about her meta read and then deflecting the question when I asked which games she used.
Mollie ignores my response but responds to something dekes said. She has now had two chances to tell me that she is not using meta.
I reiterate that those three quotes clearly implied

to me

that she was using meta and ask why she lied. If mollie were town, there is absolutely no reason why it had to get this far to get her to say she wasn't using meta.
Finally mollie says that "she can spot scum w/o using meta at all."
I point out her contradiction.
Mollie counters by saying that those three posts are saying she "has a sense of my personality." A sense based solely, as she has just admitted, which begs the question: why bring this up at all? Her sense of my personality has

nothing

to do with my alignment.

The entire interaction was awful and your attempt to be like "THIS WHOLE THING IS A FUCKING ILLUSION OMGGGGGGG" is a seriously crazy approach to take if you had actually intended on diffusing the situation. Because honestly this just looks like an attempt to further antagonize, which says to me that the sincerity you tried to show at the start of your first post was fake. You give a pretty shitty massage.

@Amrun: No I'm not. You can't tell me I'm wrong about something that I felt. I felt like mollie was using bad meta on me and made it explicitly clear that that was my position. Rather than simply saying "Nope, wasn't using meta" mollie antagonized the shit out of me in 1224 for no reason. What was the town motivation there?

[Desperado]

"A sense based solely

on ongoing games

, as she has just admitted..."

[Amrun]

None of those need to imply meta. It can all come from this game, from a player with an arrogant read.

That's not what you're saying, that she "antagonized you" whether you were right or wrong. Just like 3 posts ago you said she should be lynched because she was lying about meta on you.

Why is antagonizing someone scummy? (It isn't.)

[Desperado]

None of those need to imply meta. It can all come from this game, from a player with an arrogant read.

That's not what you're saying, that she "antagonized you" whether you were right or wrong. Just like 3 posts ago you said she should be lynched because she was lying about meta on you.

Why is antagonizing someone scummy? (It isn't.)

Why did she say "I want to play with you in every game" if she wasn't meaning to include games other than this?

She was lying, until I asked her she was lying and she said it actually wasn't meta, it was just her saying she has a sense of my personality. You will never be able to convince me that she was not referring to ongoing games when she said that.

Antagonizing someone who you perceive to be factually wrong about something is scummy because a town response would have been "You are wrong, I am not using meta." Not the stream of consciousness cliche fest that she actually posted.

[Amrun]

Because she did? Nothing implies other games there. Taking a "you can't convince me I'm wrong" stance doesn't really make you seem like you care about the truth of the matter, which is that you're blatantly fucking wrong, so wrong, in fact, that you shouldn't need it explained to you. You're making patty cakes in the sky with your doppleganger, and you're arguing with him.

[Desperado]

Because she did? Nothing implies other games there. Taking a "you can't convince me I'm wrong" stance doesn't really make you seem like you care about the truth of the matter, which is that you're blatantly fucking wrong, so wrong, in fact, that you shouldn't need it explained to you. You're making patty cakes in the sky with your doppleganger, and you're arguing with him.

If I didn't care about the truth

why did I ask her what games she was using in the first place?

[Amrun]

Patty cake patty cake, baker's man.

[tsunami]

So last night while trying to catch up I literally fell asleep on m iPad. I can't promise it won't happen gain to tonight. But I am hoping that my activity will improve after the weekend. I think by then ill have most of my apartment packed up and will a little have more free time.

[tsunami]

Oh. My. Fucking. Gods.

Please tell me this macmollie/desperado shitfest ends soon. I'll give you lollipops and candy canes if you make my dreams come true.

[tsunami]

So when I stop voting Nexus the lead goes away?

Yes, the case on Nexus revolves around his ISO being filled with scumreads that come from players doing bad things, but then Metal Sonic does the objectively Most Bad Thing of D1, but Nexus says he's bad but town? It's a scum motivated contradiction.

ms did not do the most objectively bad thing day one. People day VIG for reaction tests. They're bad and they're silly, and they most likely come from town than scum. He didn't own up to it when he should and that was bad. So, you know what he probably did the worst thing to do, but he didn't do the scummiest thing. It's exactly why some of us fought the lynch because he was obvtown while doing it, bad town, but obvtown.

[Desperado]

So when I stop voting Nexus the lead goes away?

Yes, the case on Nexus revolves around his ISO being filled with scumreads that come from players doing bad things, but then Metal Sonic does the objectively Most Bad Thing of D1, but Nexus says he's bad but town? It's a scum motivated contradiction.

ms did not do the most objectively bad thing day one. People day VIG for reaction tests. They're bad and they're silly, and they most likely come from town than scum. He didn't own up to it when he should and that was bad. So, you know what he probably did the worst thing to do, but he didn't do the scummiest thing. It's exactly why some of us fought the lynch because he was obvtown while doing it, bad town, but obvtown.

And that's fine, but those other people who fought the lynch hadn't established through their play in this game that bad = scum.

[tsunami]

Desperado - have you and mollie stopped fighting yet?

[Desperado]

I've said everything I needed to say about the subject, yeah.

[Generic]

I'm afraid I have given up trying to read wall text wars, what's the latest vote count?

Can't find a dekes response anywhere either, so

vote dekes

See if he might say hi now...

[ChannelDelibird]

Not even bothering to skim posts over a certain length, FYI.