NY 165: A Large Normal (Game Over!)

[Rift Adrift]

btw how the fuck is Brian Hollywood null?

[Rift Adrift]

BFenix is town, that was an experiment.

I still want to see BFenix's analysis of ALL wagons, not just his own.

Is this a consensus read?

[Serene]

The attempt to discredit individually every player on the wagon?

Attempting to buddy me after saying he wanted to argue with me? It's pretty obvious Bulba has lost all attempt to make his read on me look consistent. When did I stop being null due to a hydra disagreement? Oh right, when you realized I wouldn't get lynched.

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Welcome to prime time bitch. ---kuribo

[Serene]

BFenix is town, that was an experiment.

I still want to see BFenix's analysis of ALL wagons, not just his own.

Is this a consensus read?

Nah that's DGBs read I think

I haven't really read like the last 20 pages

Or been posting in the hydra QT

Sorry DGB I'll never leave you again <3

[KingCrabd]

Close but no cigar, Kuribo.

Control+F his big post for "orci" and then go pull orci's ISO.

Now tell me why orci isn't in the "verbally pushing my wagon" list?

[Rift Adrift]

Bulbafenix you seem to be distanced from me

And not talking to me despite my efforts against your lynch

I find that interesting

Found this looking for something else. orcinus you've been townreading Bulba since forever but I don't have any idea what the basis for that read is. Can you explain it?

[Rift Adrift]

Close but no cigar, Kuribo.

Control+F his big post for "orci" and then go pull orci's ISO.

Now tell me why orci isn't in the "verbally pushing my wagon" list?

I appear to have missed a significant change in orcinus' stance regarding bulba. :/

[BulbaFenix]

I'd like to see a more concise case from him.

The case is that I think you fabricated hydra-dissonance between your heads regarding your read of Serene, and all of your attempts to explain it seem like lies.

You can't fabricate me wanting to see Serene strung up a fucking tree. I've already told Bulba head that IF I find out Serene is scum after this is all said and done, I will hold it over him and NEVER let him forget.

-Fenix

[Serene]

IF I find out Serene is scum after this is all said and done, I will hold it over him and NEVER let him forget.

WHAT A STRANGE STRANGE THING TO SAY

IF WE WERE SCUM YOU SHOULD FORGIVE US, WINCON ETC

Such an ass-backwards way to look at things

Not sure how to interpret

[BulbaFenix]

@Serene: I'm normally not one to focus on VCA. This is the third time I've done an analysis on my wagon in a game. The first time was in Amurika Mafia, where I used my wagon early in the game to scumhunt, reasoning that 2 of the 3 scum were on the wagon. In actuality, all 3 of them were, but I didn't realize that. The other time that I used VCA was when I was about to die in Voided's game. That served the same purpose as the VCA here did, which was to point town in the right direction when I die. Of course, nobody payed attention to it whatsoever, and town managed to mislynch 2 more times.

If I were to look at any other VCA, I wouldn't pay much attention to Nero's lynch wagon, because that was more of a policy lynch, and everybody wanted him dead. By itself, that wagon wouldn't tell us much. The Koopa wagon would be enlightening, though. I think comparing all 3 major wagons together would probably give us something. I might work on that should we survive today. In general, though, I don't really rely on VCA to find scum. I think it can be a useful tool to identify potential scum, yes, but it's not enough to base a case on.

I'd like to see a more concise case from him.

The case is that I think you fabricated hydra-dissonance between your heads regarding your read of Serene, and all of your attempts to explain it seem like lies.

Then there's nothing much I can do to stop you from pursuing such a horribad case. Hydra dissonence is not scummy, and the Serene argument is one that we've been having in the hydra for awhile.

btw how the fuck is Brian Hollywood null?

I didn't see anything in his posts that made me lean one way or another. Plus he's getting replaced. I figure that his replacement can shed a lot of light on his alignment.

The attempt to discredit individually every player on the wagon?

I was just looking at every player's reason for being on our wagon. So far I really don't see a good case from anybody. Crabd might come the closest, but that's it. All I see are illusionary cases, and nobody seems to want to expound on it further when asked.

Attempting to buddy me after saying he wanted to argue with me?

I was actually going to ignore you. Fenix wanted to tangle, but then he went V/LA this week and left me in charge. Right around the time Cephrir went full on scum in sight of everybody, I put him back on a leash. We're not going to get anywhere if we are not united, and it's starting to turn into a bit of a distraction.

It's pretty obvious Bulba has lost all attempt to make his read on me look consistent.

It's like you forgot there were 2 of us in here. I put you in the town pile after your mason claim. I was just set to ignore you. Fenix wanted to tangle.

When did I stop being null due to a hydra disagreement?

When we reanalyzed our reads at the beginning of d2. I was the head responsible for moving you fully into the town pile. Fenix gave me no end of grief for it.

Now tell me why orci isn't in the "verbally pushing my wagon" list?

Because he isn't pushing our wagon. I don't think we ever stopped being a town read for him, iirc.

-Bulba

[Serene]

That served the same purpose as the VCA here did, which was to point town in the right direction when I die. Of course, nobody payed attention to it whatsoever, and town managed to mislynch 2 more times.

I'll pay attention, if you flip town. But I want to see the VCA on the other wagons - even those on scummy players are full of bus station fumes.

[BROseidon]

Should have posted this yesterday, but V/LA through Monday

[The Goat]

Yeah. Still ain't buying the Bulba wagon.

STOP THE WAGON!

PULL ALL THE BRAKES

WE'VE GOT A PRECIOUS NULL READ

Well, okay then. See...here's the thing with you.

You're arrogant, and smarmy. And that's good and all...conditionally.

You push, and prod, and cajole. And insult. That's also okay...conditionally.

Here's the condition: EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE...YOU HAVE TO BE RIGHT ABOUT SONETHING.

But...you haven't been. You have, to this point, been so fucking staggeringly

wrong

about everything that I honestly find it amazing that the town hasn't lynched you out of survival mode.

Every time you post, I hear this song in my head:

http://youtu.be/KQxhOYqLPdY

If you have something to contribute, please do. If you don't, please at least learn to use sarcasm properly. Because you are the main reason people are replacing out of this game.

[Zdenek]

Then there's nothing much I can do to stop you from pursuing such a horribad case. Hydra dissonence is not scummy, and the Serene argument is one that we've been having in the hydra for awhile.

My issue isn't hydra dissonance, and every time you mis-rep my case, it makes me want you dead that much more.

[Zdenek]

Yeah. Still ain't buying the Bulba wagon.

STOP THE WAGON!

PULL ALL THE BRAKES

WE'VE GOT A PRECIOUS NULL READ

Well, okay then. See...here's the thing with you.

You're arrogant, and smarmy. And that's good and all...conditionally.

You push, and prod, and cajole. And insult. That's also okay...conditionally.

Here's the condition: EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE...YOU HAVE TO BE RIGHT ABOUT SONETHING.

But...you haven't been. You have, to this point, been so fucking staggeringly

wrong

about everything that I honestly find it amazing that the town hasn't lynched you out of survival mode.

Every time you post, I hear this song in my head:

http://youtu.be/KQxhOYqLPdY

If you have something to contribute, please do. If you don't, please at least learn to use sarcasm properly. Because you are the main reason people are replacing out of this game.

Why do you think that BulbaFenix is town?

[The Goat]

Yeah. Still ain't buying the Bulba wagon.

STOP THE WAGON!

PULL ALL THE BRAKES

WE'VE GOT A PRECIOUS NULL READ

Well, okay then. See...here's the thing with you.

You're arrogant, and smarmy. And that's good and all...conditionally.

You push, and prod, and cajole. And insult. That's also okay...conditionally.

Here's the condition: EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE...YOU HAVE TO BE RIGHT ABOUT SONETHING.

But...you haven't been. You have, to this point, been so fucking staggeringly

wrong

about everything that I honestly find it amazing that the town hasn't lynched you out of survival mode.

Every time you post, I hear this song in my head:

http://youtu.be/KQxhOYqLPdY

If you have something to contribute, please do. If you don't, please at least learn to use sarcasm properly. Because you are the main reason people are replacing out of this game.

Why do you think that BulbaFenix is town?

1) he has been doing pro-town analysis all game.

2) I think his reaction to the fake hammer is thoroughly overblown.

3) the correct reply is: "why do you think he's scum?"

[Zdenek]

3) the correct reply is: "why do you think he's scum?"

I've been pretty fucking clear about this.

[Zdenek]

How about we flash-wagon Stevie?

[BulbaFenix]

Then there's nothing much I can do to stop you from pursuing such a horribad case. Hydra dissonence is not scummy, and the Serene argument is one that we've been having in the hydra for awhile.

My issue isn't hydra dissonanc

e, and every time you mis-rep my case, it makes me want you dead that much more.

The case is that

I think you fabricated hydra-dissonance

between your heads regarding your read of Serene, and all of your attempts to explain it seem like lies.

Want to run that by me again?

-Bulba

[Serene]

Yeah. Still ain't buying the Bulba wagon.

STOP THE WAGON!

PULL ALL THE BRAKES

WE'VE GOT A PRECIOUS NULL READ

Well, okay then. See...here's the thing with you.

You're arrogant, and smarmy. And that's good and all...conditionally.

You push, and prod, and cajole. And insult. That's also okay...conditionally.

Here's the condition: EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE...YOU HAVE TO BE RIGHT ABOUT SONETHING.

But...you haven't been. You have, to this point, been so fucking staggeringly

wrong

about everything that I honestly find it amazing that the town hasn't lynched you out of survival mode.

Every time you post, I hear this song in my head:

http://youtu.be/KQxhOYqLPdY

If you have something to contribute, please do. If you don't, please at least learn to use sarcasm properly. Because you are the main reason people are replacing out of this game.

How do you know whether our reads are right or wrong?

[Serene]

And once again goat whining about our lack of contribution while adding nothing new himself. You can't bitch that people aren't scum hunting and then raise the bar by saying "oh well THAT isn't scum hunting"

It's like, you continue to cry that my slot is just noise, even when I do have shit to say. But I ask again: HOW DO YOU KNOW IM WRONG

[Zdenek]

Then there's nothing much I can do to stop you from pursuing such a horribad case. Hydra dissonence is not scummy, and the Serene argument is one that we've been having in the hydra for awhile.

My issue isn't hydra dissonanc

e, and every time you mis-rep my case, it makes me want you dead that much more.

The case is that

I think you fabricated hydra-dissonance

between your heads regarding your read of Serene, and all of your attempts to explain it seem like lies.

Want to run that by me again?

-Bulba

FABRICATED

[orcinus_theoriginal]

I WILL DO THIS TODAY

I have a slight town read on bulbs. My opposition to his wagon comes from me not understanding the basis for the wagon

I WILL GET TO THIS IN THE NEXT 6 HOURS

[Rift Adrift]

*sets alarm*

[orcinus_theoriginal]

BFenix is town, that was an experiment.

I still want to see BFenix's analysis of ALL wagons, not just his own.

You are fucking useless and are completely oblivious to how anti-town you are

This is DGB, yes? And so was the person who posted that Nero was probably town right before he flipped?