Newbie 1389 Trouble in River City Game Over Scum win

[TheIrishPope]

Hmmm...
Thinking, analysing, and the like

[JasonWazza]

Spoiler: Spoiler Alert

They shot me Night 1

Good to see your ignoring me CD

[fferyllt]

fferyllt, if Cheery Dog is scum, you think his scumpartner is not on his wagon right now?

If his scum partner is on the wagon, it's Jason.

I don't like to predict scum behavior at MS based on what scum-me would do because my scum game was developed in a plurality-lynch environment. That said, if I were scum with the lynch leader in this game, I would probably be sitting back and waiting to see if his wagon would dissolve. If it didn't, I'd be planning an epic hammer vote.

[Lynx_Shine]

Nooo he ain't scum

TIP = Trollie alt or is this just another person entirely? Is worse than Trollie though he had some logic (if unexplained sometimes).

Please unvote.

Polite though.

Enlighten me, Sensei.

Could just...read the thread this time.

So the wagon just developed on its own? You started the wagon, ffery. You are to blame. You poked Cheery into L-1.
You poked Cheery with your stick, ffery.

And your first few lines are part of my suspicion exactly. Why would they follow a scumread on whom they had "pages worth of walls"?

Grimgroove didn't only say CD was scum, he called out ffery and CD as scumbuddies. Ffery put up a defense, it moved to CD. If you won't answer based on your theory "why would other people do that?" then how do you expect her to answer "why would other people do that?" completely unwarranted?

It would be more emotional (not ragey as it is now) and begging. He would plea for everyone's forgiveness and would actually try to keep the spotlight off of himself.

Didn't you just like a few posts ago say he's not ragey at all and now you're saying he'd pull serious AtE if he were Scum? I'm calling this newbtown (also lazytown) because you sound like a terrible fucking Scum player if your strategy is desperate apologetic AtE if you're voted for.

[TheIrishPope]

As long as you call me Town, you're good.

[Nobody Special]

Votecount 2.08

(unchanged)

L-1 Cheery Dog - 3 - fferyllt, Grimgroove, JasonWazza
fferyllt - 1 - TheIrishPope
JasonWazza - 1 - Cheery Dog

Not Voting: TheTrollie, Lynx_Shine


With 7 it takes 4 to lynch


Deadline is in (expired on 2013-07-29 19:50:21)

[TheTrollie]

i wanna vote grimm but that slot was SOOOO town before

[Cheery Dog]

i wanna vote grimm but that slot was SOOOO town before

Is it too weird that I now think Trollie and Jason are scum by both avoiding actually commenting on having reasons or anything?

It does work with how the game sitll hasn't moved except for people sheeping grim when he replaced in. :/

[JasonWazza]

CD still ignoring me.

CD if you were town you would have done my request just to get me posting content, you are not town, therefore YOU ARE SCUM.

[Cheery Dog]

CD still ignoring me.

CD if you were town you would have done my request just to get me posting content, you are not town, therefore YOU ARE SCUM.

So now you're just attempting to steal my reasons.

whatever.

[JasonWazza]

I'm trying to get you to actually, you know address the case on you.

Considering that you can't be fucked reading over it, why the fuck should i bother?

[Cheery Dog]

How do you know what I've read over?

There's still bloody nothing there that deserves a response.

you're still not answering the question either. (and the first one actually has nothing to with your vote on me)

[TheTrollie]

yo, what did CD claim?

I'll fucking hammer just to get this shit going. Im not sold that he is scum but holy fuck this discussion is going nowhere.

[fferyllt]

I'd like to hear why you want to vote Grim, Trollie.

[TheTrollie]

honestly grimm is just a gut read based on the wagon and the way he's reacting to ppl im reading as town.
since u asked i just isod him and am less confident in my gut read. the way he reacted in 645 was very good, very town. level headed and rational, genuine post. that's also how I felt about caps actually. both of their posts really make it seem like they have nothing to hide. I just don't think we have great leads in this game. I've been busy so I haven't put as much time into this game as I'd like to put in. if all of you have had cd where he is for this long then idk that's probably a good lynch. a counterwagon will likely be rushed and less warranted. also the cd flip at the very least could be very helpful. cd has been on l1 for a long time and that says a lot about the possible alignments of those on and off his wagon once we know the flip.

[fferyllt]

Yeah, I think that slot is town. very town. I didn't get where you were coming from with the early post.

[Lynx_Shine]

Yo ffery or one of the SEs I know I'm supposed to call intent to hammer but do I have to bold it like a vote or is it just a formality thing? Because calling intent to hammer Cheery at this point unless anyone objects.

We have a few days left but the thread's gone almost nowhere (unless someone has something else to bring up before an early end?) and posts at this point are going to reach "post so I don't get prodded" because apparently we've hit the peak of information. Cheery at this point reads Scum to me for one major reason, apparent motivation. He's been at L-1 for a while now and nothing has happened.

Town before lynch: knows they're a mislynch but wants to get all of their reads out so you won't mislynch next Day. May point out suspects and reasons (such as bauss did) because that's helpful. Presents cases and convinces people to abandon the wagon because someone is scummier for a

real reason

.

Scum before lynch: knows the Town is right and has to divert the wagon or cause confusion if they can. Often doesn't have a case because they know the opposing player is Townie. Example, "Jason didn't answer my questions vote him not me." If not answering questions is as hard of a scumtell as you want us to believe, the setup is broken because there are more Scum than Town.

[TheIrishPope]

It's just a heads up to point out you might be hammering. Nothing formal or anything.
How would Town know there's a mislynch?

[Lynx_Shine]

Town knows

they're

a mislynch. Meaning if a Townie is about to be lynched, they know they're Townie and there is a better lynch target out there.

[TheIrishPope]

Hrm. Funny thing to point out.

[Lynx_Shine]

I fail to see why I wouldn't have pointed it out when I'm saying that's exactly what Cheery

isn't

doing right now.

Unless you've got some other implication there, or a better way to say "Cheery isn't being Town" than saying "this is why Cheery isn't being Town."

[TheIrishPope]

Lynx_Shine, what stops you from hammering Cheery Dog now?

[Lynx_Shine]

This may be a site meta thing. Where I've played if you're going to hammer more than a day or two early, you put it out there and make sure nobody else has something to say. Is that not a thing here either? Because that sounds pretty drastic and I'd rather hear from at least one other person that it's common to announce intent to hammer and then only hammer 15 minutes later after one person's input. Why even announce in that case.

[TheIrishPope]

People have already expressed their desire to hammer. Why did you feel the need to state it again?

[Lynx_Shine]

For the same reason I'm in a newbie game in the first place when it should be clear I play above a newbie level. In other game I skimmed I saw clear "calling intent to hammer." I saw nobody else claim that, I'm just here making sure I've got this right as my first game on this site, not screwing up some post thing.

At this point it looks like you're pushing me to hammer, and speaking for everybody else. Do you know something I don't? Because if you're looking for a hammer right now, you could just as easily switch your vote from ffery to Cheery. I'm not sure what your intention is here. If nobody has any objections otherwise, I will hammer before I have to leave the computer because there's little point doing it immediately when I should have a couple hours free here.