Open 514: Monks and Masons in Serona - GAME OVER

[Sakura Hana]

To clarify the second question I'm asking you whether or not you think I'm an easier lynch than the other players in the thread.

Not exactly, you are neither easier nor harder, you're scum tho, so you need to die, that scumslip on my previous post just confirmed it.

[50 Shades of Purple]

I'm not a fan of handing out townreads left and right in an attempt to get towncred

it isn't an attempt to get town cred you dummy it is for accountability as we move further into the game.

[Saki]

I'm not a fan of handing out townreads left and right

in an attempt to get towncred

what

what it says?

@P-EDIT Explain your thought process on how that was a scumslip.

@50
My reads shift constantly as the day goes on. Making a readslist now and reading 3,4,5 people as town does nothing but hinder me when one of them scumslips and I start pushing them.

[Sakura Hana]

Only scum should be bothered with getting town cred, town should be bothered with finding scum.

[Saki]

Only scum should be bothered with getting town cred, town should be bothered with finding scum.

Is that not what I'm saying?

I'm saying I'd rather question you more than provide reads for 50.

[Sakura Hana]

Not providing reads is denying town of information btw.

[notscience]

VOTE: Saki

Sheep sakura to victory folks

Saki, this is code for she's winning.

[Saki]

Not providing reads is denying town of information btw.

Then what is providing reads? Giving information to the town?

Reads without analysis only makes the mafia's job easier.

[notscience]

Reads without analysis allows just a general understanding of where someone stands. They can be analyzed later to determine alignment. You don't need to wallpost every time someone wants reads.

[Saki]

To clarify the second question I'm asking you whether or not you think I'm an easier lynch than the other players in the thread.

Not exactly, you are neither easier nor harder

, you're scum tho, so you need to die, that scumslip on my previous post just confirmed it.

Explain the part in bold.

@NS I expected people to make those giant readslists as they always do. I don't like those.
How can you analyze someone gut-reading people based off RVS and two other posts? Too early in the game.

[Saki]

Reads without analysis allows just a general understanding of where someone stands.

They can be analyzed later to determine alignment. You don't need to wallpost every time someone wants reads.

How is that not more beneficial for mafia than town?

[Sakura Hana]

Because i dont judge people for how easy they are to lynch, but for how scummy their actions are.

P-Edit: Reads are beneficial for town, mafia doesnt care about reads because they know everyone's alignment (tho that's a bit different here since it's multiball)

[notscience]

I'm not saying ALWAYS do that.

People want GENERAL standings right now, they don't want wallpost reads list. How does just a general reads to figure out where people stand help mafia? You yourself said it's hard to analyze this early in the game, why do we need the analysis now?

[Saki]

Because i dont judge people for how easy they are to lynch, but for how scummy their actions are.

P-Edit: Reads are beneficial for town, mafia doesnt care about reads because they know everyone's alignment (tho that's a bit different here since it's multiball)

"Mafia doesn't care about reads." Uh-huh. Total bullshit.

I'm not saying ALWAYS do that.

People want GENERAL standings right now, they don't want wallpost reads list. How does just a general reads to figure out where people stand help mafia? You yourself said it's hard to analyze this early in the game, why do we need the analysis now?

I'm not saying we need analysis I'm saying we don't need townreads at all yet.

[notscience]

They said READS, not townreads.

Not to mention, creating a solid townbloc lets you PoE the scum.

[Sakura Hana]

Ok let me rephrase that, mafia doesn't care about GIVING reads, they don't WANT to give reads because they already know everyone's alignment and so lying with their reads will be EASILY noticeable. Not wanting to give reads, caring about town cred over scumhunting, Not really scumhunting at all... seriously i can't believe how a single person would think you're town at this point.

[Saki]

Because i dont judge people for how easy they are to lynch, but for how scummy their actions are.

P-Edit: Reads are beneficial for town,

mafia doesnt care about reads

because they know everyone's alignment (tho that's a bit different here since it's multiball)

"Oh, X many people gut-read Y as scum. Y isn't me or one of my scumbuddies. Better create a bullshit case and start pushing for the mislynch."
"Oh, X many people gut-read me as town. I should keep up this act so I don't get caught."
"Oh, X many people gut-read me as scum. I'm doing something wrong, better change what I'm doing."

@NS
I'm only talking townreads.
ofc I'll scumhunt with scumreads.

PoE works so well in this game.

@Sakura
Mafia will care about giving reads. It saves face.
Mafia can't provide genuine readslists? What kind of bullcrap is that. Any decent player can provide one, not just mafia. Most readslists are just parroting anyways.

By not giving reads I'm not caring about towncred?

I

am

scumhunting? Otherwise why would I be tunneling you?

[Saki]

Do people really agree with Sakura's arguments? They're full off bullshit and intent to get a mislynch off on who she thinks is the easiest lynch target.

[Saki]

NS, why jump into a one-on-one with questions for one side only?

[Sakura Hana]

Don't forget this game's a multiball tho, so even scum has to scumhunt.

[Saki]

Don't forget this game's a multiball tho, so even scum has to scumhunt.

I don't see why they'd have to do it through lynch.

[Sakura Hana]

Town cred.

[notscience]

NS, why jump into a one-on-one with questions for one side only?

Because Sakura's correct, and you are ignoring it.

[Saki]

NS, why jump into a one-on-one with questions for one side only?

Because Sakura's correct, and you are ignoring it.

I don't see how she's correct.

You think everything she says is sound? You don't have a single question for her? At all?

If I didn't have such a strong read on Sakura I'd push you.

[Saki]

Town cred.

All that headache for towncred? Risking their lives for towncred?

I can imagine both sides opting for a mislynch on a townie then taking shots at each other through the night.