Micro 199 Nonsensical Narnia Day 4

[MC RIDE]

I just realized the elaborate gambit I was planning for the last hour is flawed.

However, this means I can play the game right. Finally.

[MC RIDE]

I read goodmorning. I'm perfectly okay with that lynch.

But I think I'll first read kdub before voting

[MC RIDE]

Done. Let's teach goodmorning how to swim.

VOTE: goodmorning

[goodmorning]

I am now no longer interested in speaking to kdub except to refer to him as a hypocrite.

[Kdub]

Again, no substance. Sorry that you don't like getting called out on bullshit, but if all I get in response is generalizations and insults, I think that makes it clear who's comfortable discussing the facts and who isn't.

[Amethyst Snowflake]

Again, no substance. Sorry that you don't like getting called out on bullshit, but if all I get in response is generalizations and insults, I think that makes it clear who's comfortable discussing the facts and who isn't.

Umm....

nothing you have written as any kind of substance at all whatsoever

I want our vote on you but damn the other head

I am fine with Angel I guess :/

[Amethyst Snowflake]

Your push on me is lazy, letting ffery and to a lesser extend bork do all the work.

If it's "lazy" to expose your reasoning on me as inconsistent and backtrack-ish, then I'm guilty as charged. If you're referring to something else, then you're going to need to provide examples, otherwise you are just asserting something that isn't true.

And given the imminent deadline, I'm just going to head this off at the pass right now so we don't get caught in a spot where we have to scramble for a lynch. I have a confirmable ability. It won't absolutely prove that I am town, but it will prove my action and target, and I can demonstrate it tonight, barring any shenanigans. That's all I'm going to say on that until tomorrow.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: BRO

This is scum trying to buy himself time

That you claim it is provable at all already implies what it is you intend to claim anyway, not that I'm asking.
The point is that I don't buy it.

In other words: "I'm not asking what your role is, I'm just going to assume it's something and then disbelieve you based on that assumption."

Apparently deadline is 23 hours away. We should all just lynch Kdub now.

Classic scum trying to force a quicklynch at the deadline.

Seriously, LOOK at the reasons that GM and BRO are voting me for. This is a poorly reasoned and hastily manufactured wagon.

and this is completely outrageous. There is alot of town motivation for wanting a deadline lynch to go through, alot of people compromise for a quick-lynch at deadline. It doesn't make GM scum

[Amethyst Snowflake]

We have been compromised.

VOTE: kdub

[fferyllt]

mara, GiF please explain who wanted to lynch AA9 and compromised?

[Amethyst Snowflake]

GIF wanted Angel, and I'm not entirely happy with it though the kind of read I have on Kdub is unshakable his vengeful claim aside. The fact that he wanted to vengekill people who were already on his wagon made me feel like he claimed so that he could survive.

along with that, I don't think Vengeful is somewhat a negative utility if used incorrectly so uhh... yeah, I want Kdub dead

[Amethyst Snowflake]

oh sweet, it looks like Kdub is at L-2

more votes on him would be nice, at this point

[fferyllt]

It was Bro who claimed vengeful.

[Ms Marangal]

...

What did Kdub claim?

I swear it was him

[Amethyst Snowflake]

...

What did Kdub claim?

I swear it was him

[fferyllt]

He claimed some unspecified PR that he says is verifiable tomorrow or something.

[Amethyst Snowflake]

Oh, wait he was the one with the cryptic half-claim

yeah, ok

Pedit: yeah, I'm not buying it

[Amethyst Snowflake]

though the vengeful is still kinda worrisome.

[Kdub]

nothing you have written as any kind of substance at all whatsoever

This is scum trying to buy himself time

You've made assertions here without any explanation. If you want to discuss your reasons, I'd be happy to talk. Otherwise, I can't respond other than to call this what it is.

and this is completely outrageous. There is alot of town motivation for wanting a deadline lynch to go through, alot of people compromise for a quick-lynch at deadline. It doesn't make GM scum

I'm not talking about GM's vote on me, I'm talking about how I was nebulous scum read, then suddenly she became super-convinced I was scum and aggressively trying to push for my lynch as it became me vs. BRO with less than a day to go. Once we got the deadline extension, she backs down into generalities about "misreps" and such without addressing any of the actual points. That is not town compromising on a lynch.

Oh, wait he was the one with the cryptic half-claim

yeah, ok

Pedit: yeah, I'm not buying it

Like I said before, if you don't believe me based on what I've already revealed, the full claim is unlikely to change your mind.

[fferyllt]

I want a townbloc.

I'm reading you guys and bork both as town. I liked Bro's posts after he claimed. TMT is probably town but doesn't look engaged enough in this game for me to trust his reads.

I'm remembering mara's L-3 doc claim in AMOL and there are some parallels here. And it's kinda interesting that mara is the one who is calling bullshit on kdub's claim.

[Kdub]

Who is "you guys"? Me and AS?

I'm less convinced about BRO than I am about GM, but I think scum are unlikely to bus on D1 in a game this size (and they both are supporting each other), and BRO's reason for voting me was terribad.

[Amethyst Snowflake]

You guys = me and GIF. She is referring to the heads of this hydra?

[Amethyst Snowflake]

You've made assertions here without any explanation. If you want to discuss your reasons, I'd be happy to talk. Otherwise, I can't respond other than to call this what it is.

No.

and your half-claim bullshit is you trying to buy time. This is the kind of thing I see scum do quite often, and I myself do from time to time.


and there is still nothing wrong with GM wanting to push a scum read (assuming I am reading nebulous right) that she believes in at deadline. I don't personally see a shift in her stance on you so...

this is the same GM I saw in another game I had with her (a game where I kept calling her DCLX) >.>

[Kdub]

No.

Cool. Assert that I am scum, then refuse to answer when asked for an explanation. Can't argue with that (literally).

and your half-claim bullshit is you trying to buy time. This is the kind of thing I see scum do quite often, and I myself do from time to time.

You could apply this logic to any provable/testable claim, so again, if I had claimed my full role, it wouldn't have mattered to you. Not to mention the fact that a few posts ago, you thought I had claimed vengeful townie (which is not testable without a lynch) and were using THAT as a reason against me, so it's pretty clear that you've got a preconception that I am scum and are trying to justify it post-hoc no matter what.

and there is still nothing wrong with GM wanting to push a scum read (assuming I am reading nebulous right) that she believes in at deadline. I don't personally see a shift in her stance on you so...

There is something very wrong when she invents facts and throws blatantly false accusations (e.g. "chainsawing") to push that case, then having the gall to say I am twisting her words when I call bullshit.

[fferyllt]

No.

Cool. Assert that I am scum, then refuse to answer when asked for an explanation. Can't argue with that (literally).

and your half-claim bullshit is you trying to buy time. This is the kind of thing I see scum do quite often, and I myself do from time to time.

You could apply this logic to any provable/testable claim, so again, if I had claimed my full role, it wouldn't have mattered to you. Not to mention the fact that a few posts ago, you thought I had claimed vengeful townie (which is not testable without a lynch) and were using THAT as a reason against me, so it's pretty clear that you've got a preconception that I am scum and are trying to justify it post-hoc no matter what.

and there is still nothing wrong with GM wanting to push a scum read (assuming I am reading nebulous right) that she believes in at deadline. I don't personally see a shift in her stance on you so...

There is something very wrong when she invents facts and throws blatantly false accusations (e.g. "chainsawing") to push that case, then having the gall to say I am twisting her words when I call bullshit.

You are arguiing "You can't prove I'm scum. You can't refute a claim I won't elaborate."

There is nothing in your recent posts that says "I'm town."

VOTE: kdub

[Kdub]

You are arguiing "You can't prove I'm scum. You can't refute a claim I won't elaborate."

No. I am arguing "AS is calling me scum for reasons they refuse to elaborate on". Nobody has asked me for a fullclaim, and I don't think it's going to affect anyone's opinion, but I'll give it if that's what you really want.

I'll accept the lynch today if that's what's going to happen, provided that tomorrow, you look at my interaction with GM over the past several pages and realize how dishonest her attacks are and how inconsistent she has been on her opinions of me/BRO. Until then, I maintain that the reasons for people voting me are either poorly reasoned or unsubstantiated.