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I think Noctan's replace-out puts the "quick meltdowns as a form of manipulation" to rest, so I'm OK with his inconsistent thought processes and batshit logic for now.
Is there a reason you've been fluffing so much? You have the power to save the game yourself; I don't think you need Jesus in this particular mafia game.In post 1004, notscience wrote:Saki, your case on me was shit. It's OMGUS. It's bad. And now you're saying I'm scum for fluffing. Fluffing=PL.
No, he's probably just town.
That was Nacho. I suspected him for a while and I valued the reaction having him claim would bring.In post 1072, Malakittens wrote:Mollie why did you have NN claim at L-3?
Could you explain this?In post 1077, Sakura Hana wrote:So ok, Wisdom thinks i'm scum off gut, i figured he's still paranoid about Marathons.
I guess he's not scum then...
I don't think she'd lie about verifiable information.In post 1093, Wisdom wrote:btw Sakura I just checked our marathons and the only one I misread you and "made you mad" was Lucky's that got cancelled.
So still an exaggeration.
What was wrong with the Mala vote?In post 1095, Honey bee wrote:Your votes so far have been fine except for maybe the mala one but you haven't done anything alarming to me.
I don't like you discrediting Marquis's read here.In post 1095, Honey bee wrote:lol cute.
This isn't anything close to Sakura-scum's playstyle, and generally isn't a scumtell in general. Bert noted that Sakura also looked like she was trying to gather towncred, but, surprisingly enough, not everything that is generically town is scum going for towncred. Sometimes it's just town. "Active scum hunting the other team" says nothing; who is she protecting? I also don't give a shit about the slip.In post 1100, Wisdom wrote:She also tries to gather towncred with every opportunity (such as teaching/coaching - 1005 is a good recent example).
I agree that Mala hasn't been as involved as I'd like her to be this game. I don't really think being fluffy/nonsensical is a scumtell, though.In post 1100, Wisdom wrote:Malakittens is also scum. First of all, she posts less frequently than she does as town - ironically something she tries to accuse goodmorning of. Then most of her posts are fluffy, nonsensical that she later excuses as cranky, or general statements without many commitments and without really participating in discussions.
I have no idea what she was trying to say there either.In post 1100, Wisdom wrote:Really weird, as is her call for a policy lynch out of nowhere.
It's not a townread that I can come close to trusting if you cannot continue to hold it even if her reads are bad.In post 1100, Wisdom wrote:goodmorning is not scum. I disagree with notscience that she did not help the game progress - her reads are good, and the Sakura mafiaslip she spotted is most likely accurate.
Also, deathtunneling on town. TheIn post 1100, Wisdom wrote:Saki notably has a playstyle that reminds me very much of mine (such as wanting to withheld townreads, posting a lot, and other stuff), and I'm quite sure that's town.sametown, no less.- Wisdom
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She didn't lie, she exaggerated. We only have one completed game together in which we both scumread each other and were both town. In marathons however I only hardtunneled on her one time and I was not town.In post 1129, 50 Shades of Purple wrote:I don't think she'd lie about verifiable information.- Wisdom
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Nope, it's basically "you're also voting town", which shows that anyone can say this because not everyone has the same reads. So basically your "you're voting town" meant nothing to me because I don't think you're town.In post 1132, Sakura Hana wrote:Sure it's BS, and your post is also BS, it's basically "If you're town take your vote off Marquis" which is a trap in my eyes.
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Just woke up and read the past two pages. Wisdom's 1100 with reads are pretty good, but I'm weary because Wisdom looks town so far. *shrug* Yeah, don't like Sakura on page 45.
Noctan's replace-out is kinda fed-up town actually.
Uhh, Sakura, how is making a case on you "painting you as scum," and if so, how is that scummy?
It irks me that you are so paranoid about Wisdom's "trap." I don't see what's the big deal- Sakura Hana
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I exagerated, so what, does that make me scum?
You also hardtunneld me on Micro 198 with the reasoning "You're scum" , to the point of making me self-hammer as town out of frustration and rage, tho I've promised myself to not ever self-vote again...
And I still say your post was a trap, your case on me is relying on me trying to get town cred, so how does your post not look like a trap? you could easily just say either answer was done for town cred, so it's effectively a trap.I bloom in spring?
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Because on that trap he can say i'm scum no matter what i reply, and put it on me. How is that town motivated?In post 1135, Bert wrote:It irks me that you are so paranoid about Wisdom's "trap." I don't see what's the big dealI bloom in spring?
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Vote: Honey Bee
I think I'm most comfortable voting here again.
Both of these issues Honey had with Noctan were misrepresentations based on the RVS. "Not liking his votes so far" was particularly strange, considering every single one of his votes was made during the RVS.In post 175, Honey bee wrote:You never 'splained why you wanted everyone to claim, and I'm not liking your votes so far.
quote="In post 323, Honey bee"]No, the reason why I voted him was thatI didn't like his vote on marquis for random votingwhen he had been making nonsense votes around that time as well,[/quote]
Bolded is a brand new reason that came out when Honey Bee was questioned about her vote on Noctan, and I don't really like it. It's also another misrep of Noctan; he never said shit about voting Marquis for any reason but Honey Bee acted like he did.
That's cool, but... why are you expecting Noctan to have a bunch of reads if you don't have any yourself?In post 323, Honey bee wrote:And yeah any other reads I have are gut I don't wanna throw out because I don't like to throw out reads without justification. Nobody else has done anything I'd vote on.
Why is Noctan getting a Saki read wrong so bad while NS and Sakura doing the same thing earlier completely OK?In post 878, Honey bee wrote:and your scum reads right now are saki, gm, and marquis, right? I'm cool with the last two, but defensiveness and tunneling aren't scummy, and I don't think you've ever went anywhere with it.
What does this even mean?In post 878, Honey bee wrote:Again, why would you even have such a strong read on someone when you see where the other side comes from,
I thought he got quicklynched in that game.In post 878, Honey bee wrote:and marquis sheesh what are you even doing? Do you have plans on ever making an effort in this thread? You weren't this bad in our other game :/- 50 Shades of Purple
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Vote: Honey Bee
I think I'm most comfortable voting here again.
Both of these issues Honey had with Noctan were misrepresentations based on the RVS. "Not liking his votes so far" was particularly strange, considering every single one of his votes was made during the RVS.In post 175, Honey bee wrote:You never 'splained why you wanted everyone to claim, and I'm not liking your votes so far.
Bolded is a brand new reason that came out when Honey Bee was questioned about her vote on Noctan, and I don't really like it. It's also another misrep of Noctan; he never said shit about voting Marquis for any reason but Honey Bee acted like he did.In post 323, Honey bee wrote:No, the reason why I voted him was thatI didn't like his vote on marquis for random votingwhen he had been making nonsense votes around that time as well,
That's cool, but... why are you expecting Noctan to have a bunch of reads if you don't have any yourself?In post 323, Honey bee wrote:And yeah any other reads I have are gut I don't wanna throw out because I don't like to throw out reads without justification. Nobody else has done anything I'd vote on.
Why is Noctan getting a Saki read wrong so bad while NS and Sakura doing the same thing earlier completely OK?In post 878, Honey bee wrote:and your scum reads right now are saki, gm, and marquis, right? I'm cool with the last two, but defensiveness and tunneling aren't scummy, and I don't think you've ever went anywhere with it.
What does this even mean?In post 878, Honey bee wrote:Again, why would you even have such a strong read on someone when you see where the other side comes from,
I thought he got quicklynched in that game.In post 878, Honey bee wrote:and marquis sheesh what are you even doing? Do you have plans on ever making an effort in this thread? You weren't this bad in our other game :/- Bert
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Turns out I was led on and lied to all school year, the person said "I want a long-term relationship, I'd like to meet your parents, go on trips, live together" all that sweet stuff, and then turns out it was just a lie and I got an apology....so all the cuddling/hugging was just the person saying "I have no willpower, everything was a mistake"
Person just wanted sex on the side along with being friends, after all, and actually hooks up with people all the time I found out... :/
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Sakura, you were townreading me until that post. The fact you choose to look at this only with a mindset of me being scum is off.In post 1136, Sakura Hana wrote:I exagerated, so what, does that make me scum?
You also hardtunneld me on Micro 198 with the reasoning "You're scum" , to the point of making me self-hammer as town out of frustration and rage, tho I've promised myself to not ever self-vote again...
And I still say your post was a trap, your case on me is relying on me trying to get town cred, so how does your post not look like a trap? you could easily just say either answer was done for town cred, so it's effectively a trap.- Sakura Hana
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I think that Wisdom's town. Mollie disagrees.
And you can't see why you pushing on her again when she's town makes her paranoid?In post 1133, Wisdom wrote:She didn't lie, she exaggerated. We only have one completed game together in which we both scumread each other and were both town. In marathons however I only hardtunneled on her one time and I was not town.
Not to mention ^^^this is enough for paranoia on its own.In post 1136, Sakura Hana wrote:You also hardtunneld me on Micro 198 with the reasoning "You're scum" , to the point of making me self-hammer as town out of frustration and rage, tho I've promised myself to not ever self-vote again...
sorry to hear thatIn post 1141, Bert wrote:Turns out I was led on and lied to all school year, the person said "I want a long-term relationship, I'd like to meet your parents, go on trips, live together" all that sweet stuff, and then turns out it was just a lie and I got an apology....so all the cuddling/hugging was just the person saying "I have no willpower, everything was a mistake"
Person just wanted sex on the side along with being friends, after all, and actually hooks up with people all the time I found out... :/
Doesn't work for me, so I left
Not right now, no.In post 1142, Sakura Hana wrote:So Nacho, you don't think that wisdom was trying to trap me for a mislynch?
I like your case on HB.- Bert
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Yes, but I can also see how she can use that to her defence as scum.In post 1146, 50 Shades of Purple wrote:And you can't see why you pushing on her again when she's town makes her paranoid?- Sakura Hana
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