Open 514: Monks and Masons in Serona - GAME OVER

[50 Shades of Purple]

What the fuck did you do wisdom

Nothing to warrant such an overreaction, that's why I think there's a good chance it was forced.

remember that game where I lynched TAM for a similar reason and you won because of it?

[fferyllt]

19th Vote Count (19th of Day 1)

Wisdom - 3 (RachMarie, Meowmix, marquis) - L-3
:right:Honey bee - 3 (50 Shades of Purple, bert, Sakura Hana) - L-3

Sakura Hana - 2 (goodmorning, notscience)
malakittens - 1 (Wisdom)
notscience - 1 (Saki)
RachMarie - 1 (Scott Brosius)
goodmorning - 1 (malakittens)


Not voting: Honey bee

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.

Mod Notes:

- MeowMix has beeen prodded.

Deadline August 10, 11:59 PM US Eastern Time (GMT-4)

Nightfall is in (expired on 2013-08-10 20:59:00)

[Bert]

@NS: OHHHHHHH nah, I'm getting over the person NS. person's just looking for hookups lol, but the person deceives for ego-boosting and for hook-ups...so i never put out, and now the person's gone.

poor thing will sleep with anyone due to lack of willpower

and yeah lynching Sakura day 1 probably isn't a good idea, there are much more scummier people imo

[Wisdom]

Which means she could easily emulate that as scum.

pedit: yeah I do, Nacho. But that doesn't mean it's always town. Sec, I'll show you an example of scum doing this exact thing.

[notscience]

Wisdom im only reading every third word you write now

[Wisdom]

Maestro's ISO in Masons and Mafia
In that game, I started hardtunneling on him in 939, then he went "omg Wisdom is tunneling on me now he is never going to stop tunneling" (his 969 for example) and kept spamming "I will replace out". According to that game's mod's post, he asked not to be replaced despite what was said. He did replace out in the end because things turned out that way, but the point is that what he was doing was trying to use frustration from my tunneling on him to his favor by threatening he will replace out. Which was unwarranted since he, like Sakura here, had only one other game with me (and he was scum in it). He was indeed scum.

So yeah, I could see Sakura doing this. Not going to lynch her for this now, but I'm not seeing it as a towntell.

Now I'd like people to vote Mala.

[Sakura Hana]

I retracted because people wanna play with Sakura Hana, not with Sakura Hana's replacement.

You're still blacklisted tho, that is indeed final.

[notscience]

Hi sakura

[Sakura Hana]

hi notscience

[Wisdom]

So I'm blacklisted because I should somehow believe that an obvious towncred-hunting move was because you actually care about Saki's future on the site?

[Bert]

yeah......

hmm... that's interesting, never seen anyone quit as scum before, bah. hmmmmmmmmmmm

NS why are you only reading every third word he says

[notscience]

Because the reception in tunnels are terrible

[50 Shades of Purple]

sakura

normally you drive me up the wall but I feel like I am understanding you a little better.

now keep your eyes on me

do not look at wisdom

look at me. okay?

[goodmorning]

I would disagree. I'll go back and read later if you like.

GUYS LET ME POST I HAVE TO DO SHIT TODAY

Post now and stop whining.

I've posted more content in 24 hours than you have all fucking game, don't talk to me about posting.
Besides which it's hardly whining when you get preempted like 5 times when you're trying to post so you can run errands.

50 I'm not sure on, but I have a light scumread on them at this point.

huh? why?

Primarily because Nacho. I'm fairly decent at being able to tell when he's Town, and I'm not getting townvibes off him BUT on the other hand it's only a weak scumread because I'm not as good at reading him in hydra.

It's funny how everyone that has defended me is a scum read for GM.

Mala's defended you? Where? And bee? I haven't seen this.

50 I'm not sure on, but I have a light scumread on them at this point.

Is that light scumread from 242 still? Why did you dislike it?

For a start, and because it doesn't sound like Town-Nacho.

OK FUCK THIS

@Mod: Replace me out i dont wanna deal with wisdom anymore

Wisodm: Im blacklisting you

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

Ok fine..

@Mod: Cancel that replace out

SCUM

Just dont expect me to be happy here playing with Wisdom when it's the 2nd time he deathtunnels me when i'm town...

Are you saying deathtunneling isn't a valid playstyle?
And for that matter are you saying Saki doesn't have a valid playstyle?

[Bert]

Meh I sense that GM wants to diminish Nacho's credibility by counterattacking him. Nacho and mollie are taking control of the game, got a problem with that?


Nice excuse of "I can generally tell when he's town, and he's not giving me this vibe here" Nice going

[Wisdom]

Because the reception in tunnels are terrible

My tunnels can be pretty accurate sometimes, so it's a bad idea to just dismiss them like that. See the game I linked for example.
Also, you're still voting Sakura, the person that you're claiming I'm wrongly tunneling on, so what are you talking about?
Wanna vote Mala?

[Sakura Hana]

I think it's fairly obvious i hate both Wisdom's and Saki's playstyle so I didn't want Saki to become like Wisdom?

Well maybe i thought mala was defending me, tho HB is defending me with that mention about the town cred thing.

[50 Shades of Purple]

but the point is that what he was doing was trying to use frustration from my tunneling on him to his favor by threatening he will replace out.

1) Maestro is more experienced than Sakura, thus it is more likely he would try a tactic like that.
2) Maestro is not an emotional player, although he does throw around rage cards a lot. He is not known for getting frustrated under pressure. Sakura is.
3) Maestro did not threaten to blacklist you. I find non-genuine threats of being blacklisting to be on the absolute lowest of mafia tactics because I believe blacklisting is a be all end all type of move. I pushed DGB in Voided Nightless and she threatened to blacklist me for tunneling on her in the way I did. I backed the fuck off because that was ridiculous, she was town.
4) There were not early signs of a meltdown in Maestro's replace out. You started tunneling him and he got bullshitty. There were early signs of a meltdown here that mollie suspects you for missing.

[Wisdom]

nah goodmorning, this is obvtown Nacho. mollie I can't read that good lately, but for Nacho I'm sure.

[Bert]

Lol I like Sakura, Wisdom, Saki, and Noctan's playstyle, same with NS

Love them all

even Marquis

this is a great game to be in

I don't feel so scummy when I'm with so many scummy people

I love yall

[goodmorning]

Meh I sense that GM wants to diminish Nacho's credibility by counterattacking him. Nacho and mollie are taking control of the game, got a problem with that?

Not til D2 or D3 I won't.

Nice excuse of "I can generally tell when he's town, and he's not giving me this vibe here" Nice going

It is indeed the truth. I'm a somewhat meta-oriented player, got a problem with that?

[Sakura Hana]

@GM: You're a meta oriented player yet you haven't meta'd me, that's interesting.

[50 Shades of Purple]

For a start, and because it doesn't sound like Town-Nacho.

Don't stop there. Why doesn't it sound like Town-Nacho?

[50 Shades of Purple]

SCUM

You see a melt-down and this is your response? Really...?

Are you saying deathtunneling isn't a valid playstyle?
And for that matter are you saying Saki doesn't have a valid playstyle?

what the fuck does this have to do with anything

[Wisdom]

Okay you have a point about the blacklisting, Nacho, and it's part of the reason I'm not insisting. It's too heavy to fake, indeed. But I'll stand by what I said that game - threatening to replace out without actually replacing out is not a towntell and should not ever be treated as such. I'm backing off only because of the blacklisting mention, nothing else.

Now can we vote Mala?