Open 514: Monks and Masons in Serona - GAME OVER

[Bert]

I think you're scum. Doesn't mean I'm gonna blacklist you. LOL

Where did that conclusion come from? That's quite a jump..

I stand by how it's impossible that you would be so unaware of how masons and monks work in this game.

Fine with the lynching others over us because I'm a mason. Why you're using the odds of us being scum as the initiative and incentive to lynch others when you strongly believe me to be scum is what gets me.

And if you look at GM's posts, that thing about Nacho is not the only thing that makes me uncomfortable. Why can't you see that

[Wisdom]

ok mollie.
Do you disagree that it's best to leave the masons alone today so they can wolfhunt each other?

[50 Shades of Purple]

Why do they call it a blacklist

Why not a whitelist

Or Yellowlist

Or mexicanlist

personally I think it should be called an antartica list cos really who wants to go there

eta: no

[Sakura Hana]

Well guess im not getting lynched today so back to this i guess
VOTE: GM

[50 Shades of Purple]

hey bert I asked you a question

[Wisdom]

I think you're scum. Doesn't mean I'm gonna blacklist you. LOL

Where did that conclusion come from? That's quite a jump..

You sheeped the "omg this cant be town Wisdom" belief, so it's not a jump, no.

I stand by how it's impossible that you would be so unaware of how masons and monks work in this game.

Excuse me? How am I unaware of that?

Fine with the lynching others over us because I'm a mason. Why you're using the odds of us being scum as the initiative and incentive to lynch others when you strongly believe me to be scum is what gets me.

I strongly believe Mala is scum too - more than you. I had you as a townread and even wanted to have you in a townblock. A person like this is not who I want to lynch over my initial scumreads like Mala.

And if you look at GM's posts, that thing about Nacho is not the only thing that makes me uncomfortable. Why can't you see that

I saw it and I answered to you twice about it.
Besides, in the beginning you doubted the hydra was town too. You were saying they don't give town vibes and stuff. So wanting to lynch people based on that is a huge hypocrisy.

[Wisdom]

eta: no

Was that to my question? Do you agree or disagree?

[Sakura Hana]

did you guys calm down now?

[Bert]

I already answered your question - I said what I've been thinking is what you've been thinking, ergo GM is giving off super scummy vibes

you make better qualitative/quantitative cases than I do

so I'm glad to support the wagon and sheep you

what else do you wanna know

[Bert]

EBWOP: that was at mollie

[Wisdom]

Good now answer my question too, Bert

[goodmorning]

6 pages. 6 pages of LOL IDC WISDOM SUCKS N STUFF.

This game is getting ridiculous. HITF am I supposed to keep up with this shit?

[pirate mollie]

eta: no

Was that to my question? Do you agree or disagree?

yes that was an answer to your question and I disagree.

@ bert

I want you to explain why you think gm is scummy

[Wisdom]

Ok, why do you disagree?

[50 Shades of Purple]

eta: no

Was that to my question? Do you agree or disagree?

yes that was an answer to your question and I disagree.

@ bert

I want you to explain why you think gm is scummy

[Wisdom]

6 pages. 6 pages of LOL IDC WISDOM SUCKS N STUFF.

This game is getting ridiculous. HITF am I supposed to keep up with this shit?

Read Bert's recent posts and tell me if you agree that he's scum.

[50 Shades of Purple]

6 pages. 6 pages of LOL IDC WISDOM SUCKS N STUFF.

This game is getting ridiculous. HITF am I supposed to keep up with this shit?

oh plz. I am pretty sure that you have been in high-volume games before. I sometimes follow fery's games so

[50 Shades of Purple]

Ok, why do you disagree?

I answered this. gm is more dangerous. head before the ass

[Wisdom]

How is she being dangerous explains what I asked?
Did you even think what I asked through?

I'll repeat;
Masons can wolfhunt each other.
Masons have a less chance of flipping scum since they're conf not mafia.
Thus we are better off lynching outside the masons.

Where do you disagree?

[Bert]

because of her comments about nacho

i dont care if she's only been in a few games with nacho, her comments about nacho and how yall arent town were so so so so not town. how gm can think that and reference all those games, etc., etc. without accuracy either in her statements made it a weak weak weak weak scummy move on her part

Wisdom's arguiment that "smart scum buddy nacho, not antagonize" is BS and that's just an excuse

wisdom is so adamant on defending gm from the get-go. why

or

[goodmorning]

Read Bert's recent posts and tell me if you agree that he's scum.

I don't. His posts are a bit wishywashy but that jives with what I know of him as Town - analyzing everything, saying little. See Micro 189 (under his alt).
So he's sheeping everyone to death. Sure it's exceedingly anti-Town, but that doesn't make him a Wolf.

The one thing that does look actually scummy from him is the last sentence of his 1775 coupled with the middle two lines of 1783. Everything else strikes me as Null to light Town.
PEDIT Coupled with the one from just now too

oh plz. I am pretty sure that you have been in high-volume games before. I sometimes follow fery's games so

I have been in games that did the occasional high-volume day, not the occasional 6-pages-in-2-hours.

[50 Shades of Purple]

How is she being dangerous explains what I asked?
Did you even think what I asked through?

I'll repeat;
Masons can wolfhunt each other.
Masons have a less chance of flipping scum since they're conf not mafia.
Thus we are better off lynching outside the masons.

Where do you disagree?

because we want to hit scum. wolf and mafia are counter to our wc why is this so hard to understand

[Wisdom]

because of her comments about nacho

i dont care if she's only been in a few games with nacho, her comments about nacho and how yall arent town were so so so so not town. how gm can think that and reference all those games, etc., etc. without accuracy either in her statements made it a weak weak weak weak scummy move on her part

I will repeat. You made similar comments about the hydra not being town towards the beginning of the game. You were saying things like "mollie wants to cover for Nacho" when she said that she will text him. Those things were far more stupid (or far more scummy) than gm's simple paranoia on Nacho. You're being a hypocrite.

Wisdom's arguiment that "smart scum buddy nacho, not antagonize" is BS and that's just an excuse

Nope it's the truth. Do you want to see Polygamy ScumQT where we discussed we're not going to antagonize Nacho? Do you want me to remind you of Popcorn, where scum gave the weapon to Nacho so they don't have to antagonize him? Or do you want me to point you to tons of Nacho games where scum buddied Nacho?

wisdom is so adamant on defending gm from the get-go. why

Because I'm confident in my reads. Which you know. And act like you don't.

[Wisdom]

because we want to hit scum. wolf and mafia are counter to our wc why is this so hard to understand

That's exactly what I'm telling you mollie. Masons cannot be mafia, and cannot be wolves together. Therefore they have LESS of a chance to flip scum. Even if one of them is, there are THREE others outside the masons. How is it against our wincon to hunt those three?

[Bert]

No, Nacho and mollie have proven they are town.

Since Nacho actually joined in and stopped being a lurksack, things changed. what is so hard to understand about that.

And no that doesn't mean everyone follows that rule and buddies Nacho as scum if they're experienced. Tehre's no set line of right behavior or smart behavior for scum when playing with Nacho.

Doesn't make your reads right if you're confident.