Open 514: Monks and Masons in Serona - GAME OVER

[50 Shades of Purple]

But I still want you to do me a favor wisdom because this game reached a point with a rocky road and I don't want this game to be so rough.

[50 Shades of Purple]

Nacho!

hello!

[Bert]

'justify active lurking from town perspective'
active lurking in this game doesn't apply to ns only
gogo answer that

Active lurking mainly applies to Mala.
ns and Marquis kind of do it too, but in both cases it's different. ns sometimes does try to move the game forward - an example being his selfvote on page2 for reactions - and Marquis is pretty obviously just a carefree guy who doesn't take this seriously and just does whatever he wants. I'm less certain about Marquis being town, as this is something that can be done by good scum, but ns is clearly town.

Good god. I'm not active lurking get the fuck over yourself.

If you guys are seriously going to sheep please wait for Mollie to answer regarding her read on me. If you ever want to trust one/two people: Nacho AND Mollie are the people to do it. Both can read me so well it's not even funny.

But if you guys are going to go "well, I'm going to sit here and sheep player x who has barely a case other than 'umg a fluffy ISO' I'll sit here and replace out". I hate tunnelers they piss me off. I hate getting voted without a decent case on me that I can dispute. I can't dispute gut, I can't dispute a fluffy ISO and face it there's a ton of players here who has them yet he's going after me.

Please do find some solid evidence that links me to being scum.

[Wisdom]

She never called you town. She agreed with you when you said retarded deathtunnel.

Are you serious now Nacho? She wants to blacklist me because tunneling yet she considers me scum at the same time?

she's trusting me on my read on you.
she has never called you town.w

I repeat. Is it possible for someone to consider someone scum, yet want to blacklist them for tunneling? Doesn't being scum excuse the tunneling?

[50 Shades of Purple]

I repeat. Is it possible for someone to consider someone scum, yet want to blacklist them for tunneling? Doesn't being scum excuse the tunneling?

For some people, sure. For others, not so much. Sometimes they think that tunneling and making them break and manipulating them in that way is a bullshit move regardless of alignment, and so they will blacklist you.

[Sakura Hana]

Maybe, but you tunnel everywhere and always get people mad at you regardless of alignment, why would i want to play with a player like that, I read that game you linked when I almost replaced out and it seems i'm not the only one that you've angered with your death tunneling.

[Ms Marangal]

I asked you a simple question, and you don't even answer it Nacho

are you both reading Sakura as town? why? So far, all I see is her following up on other peoples thoughts, not making much of her own, and of those she does it looks opportunistic

[50 Shades of Purple]

but that means there's scum elsewhere and I'm not really sure that scum is Mala. You say scum don't like antagonizing me? They also don't like antagonizing you, considering you're always present and Mala has been antagonizing the hell out of you this game. She knows mollie and I won't defend her like we will defend Bert, Sakura unless she steps up to full town potential, but she doesn't really care

[Wisdom]

Mala has been antagonizing the hell out of you this game.

No, she hasn't, Nacho. She has been passive, trying to respond to the accusations against her, but she didn't scumread me or anything. It's exactly the same thing she did the last time she was scum in a game with me.

Look. I'm telling her she's going next and she's like "cool". Sort of how she was like "fuck you wisdom" in this game.

[Wisdom]

Maybe, but you tunnel everywhere and always get people mad at you regardless of alignment, why would i want to play with a player like that, I read that game you linked when I almost replaced out and it seems i'm not the only one that you've angered with your death tunneling.

Except the person that was angered in that game was scum.

[Sakura Hana]

And pieceofpecanpie too

[50 Shades of Purple]

And I mean when you are trying to figure out "is she really blacklisting because she doesn't like me or is she blacklisting to manipulate", I would suggest you just back the fuck down. If you miss a scumread on someone because they are threatening to blacklist you and you don't push on them despite that, then there's literally no way that you could have played that differently without risking actually bothering someone beyond the spirit out of the game. So please, just back off because if Sakura is using that to manipulate you as scum then she's crossed far too many lines already.

[Sakura Hana]

I already said, if you want just lynch me so I can prove you wrong Wisdom.

[50 Shades of Purple]

Look. I'm telling her she's going next and she's like "cool". Sort of how she was like "fuck you wisdom" in this game.

Right, but here she's just going fuck you wisdom and doing nothing else, which she knows will antagonize you. There, she pulled the fuck you wisdom card but had no problems defending herself against other people, doing normal scumhunting, etc. There wasn't ever a problem of you pushing her and then her just fluffing in that game.

[Ms Marangal]

Nacho, I'm trying to talk to you while catching up.

stop ignoring me dammit

[50 Shades of Purple]

but that means there's scum elsewhere and I'm not really sure that scum is Mala. You say scum don't like antagonizing me? They also don't like antagonizing you, considering you're always present and Mala has been antagonizing the hell out of you this game. She knows mollie and I won't defend her like we will defend Bert, Sakura unless she steps up to full town potential, but she doesn't really care

but that means there's scum elsewhere and I'm not really sure that scum is Mala. You say scum don't like antagonizing me? They also don't like antagonizing you, considering you're always present and Mala has been antagonizing the hell out of you this game. She knows mollie and I won't defend her like we will defend Bert, Sakura unless she steps up to full town potential, but she doesn't really care

but that means there's scum elsewhere and I'm not really sure that scum is Mala. You say scum don't like antagonizing me? They also don't like antagonizing you, considering you're always present and Mala has been antagonizing the hell out of you this game. She knows mollie and I won't defend her like we will defend Bert, Sakura unless she steps up to full town potential, but she doesn't really care

but that means there's scum elsewhere and I'm not really sure that scum is Mala. You say scum don't like antagonizing me? They also don't like antagonizing you, considering you're always present and Mala has been antagonizing the hell out of you this game. She knows mollie and I won't defend her like we will defend Bert, Sakura unless she steps up to full town potential, but she doesn't really care

but that means there's scum elsewhere and I'm not really sure that scum is Mala. You say scum don't like antagonizing me? They also don't like antagonizing you, considering you're always present and Mala has been antagonizing the hell out of you this game. She knows mollie and I won't defend her like we will defend Bert, Sakura unless she steps up to full town potential, but she doesn't really care

here is my answer to your question, mara!
no i do not think mala is scum.

[Ms Marangal]

What about Sakura

[Sakura Hana]

I thought she asked about Rach

[50 Shades of Purple]

What about Sakura

Read the rest of the game and then talk to me about Sakura.

[Wisdom]

Look. I'm telling her she's going next and she's like "cool". Sort of how she was like "fuck you wisdom" in this game.

Right, but here she's just going fuck you wisdom and doing nothing else, which she knows will antagonize you. There, she pulled the fuck you wisdom card but had no problems defending herself against other people, doing normal scumhunting, etc. There wasn't ever a problem of you pushing her and then her just fluffing in that game.

This difference has to do with her activity. It's clear she does not have as much time now so obviously her game will lack. Otherwise there's no difference in attitude between the two games. She defended there, she defends here. She ignored my scumread on here there, she ignores it here.

[Wisdom]

I already said, if you want just lynch me so I can prove you wrong Wisdom.

If you want to prove me wrong start being town, Sakura.

[50 Shades of Purple]

AKA STRONG TOWN:
{Wisdom, Bert, Sakura Hana}

TOWN:
{Mala, Saki, diginova}

LEAN TOWN:
{RachMarie}

LEAN SCUM:
{notscience}

SCUM:
{goodmorning, Ms Marangal, DrCirno}

LEFTOVER:
{Scott Brosius}

[Ms Marangal]

I did ask about Rach, he answered that one though

[Sakura Hana]

Scott Brosius is doing nothing, i totally forgot he was here, I thought he was already replaced...

[Ms Marangal]

Yeah no hammering plz I like long days and id rather not have someone lolhammer now UNVOTE: bbl

ITT: My predecessor is so Obv town for doing this.