Open 514: Monks and Masons in Serona - GAME OVER

[Wisdom]

Also how he replaced out, and how he insisted on his final reads.. can't really see scum doing it

[Wisdom]

Why does it help scum, Rach?

[RachMarie]

Because they already know who the masons are now, if we out the monks too then they know exactly who to kill...

[Wisdom]

Why do you think they'd kill the masons? They're not conftown.

[Saki]

Monks don't come out every single time we mention them, Rach
stop being so paranoid.

[RachMarie]

ok say one of the masons is scumz then yeah he or she knows the other one is town, but does not know about the monks and vice versa...

Whilst with the monks if one is scumz, same thing but about his or her partner, and does not know about the masons...

By outing all of the peeps then both sets of scumz know everything.

[Saki]

By outing all of the peeps then both sets of scumz know everything.

really?

[Wisdom]

How do they know everything?

Say one mason is wolf. That wolf and his scumbuddy know that the other mason is town. If they know the monks, the only thing they'll know is that both can't be mafia - they won't know who though, and there's always the possibility both are town.

It doesn't really help them much.

[Wisdom]

As for the mafia - if they have a mafia in the monks they already know who they are, if not they will just know both are town.

[Saki]

I don't get it. If GM-Bert are masons and one happened to be scum they wouldn't NK the other one. ever.

[Wisdom]

True.
Mafia could kill Bert to incriminate gm further though - that way they get a town and a wolf(or town) dead.

[Wisdom]

^And that's what I didn't want to say earlier. I don't know if it's wise to continue this discussion.

[RachMarie]

So lets drop it and leave the poor monks in peace and focus on scum hunting instead

[Wisdom]

The downside in monks not claiming though is that if one dies during the night, we won't know who the other one is.

[Wisdom]

I'd like Nacho's input on this before we end the day.

[RachMarie]

oh crap I did not think of that


sigh

[RachMarie]

ok fine

well one should be rather obvious by now...

the other is Mala..

crap guys n gals...

[RachMarie]

She seems a bit like the town Mala I have seen in other games so

I need a bit more time to be sure.

Well I do more too usually Wis but with my sprained knee and groin muscle on the same side hurt too, its hard for me to think things through at times.

So yeah I want a bit longer to really look at her

before I am ready to call her mafia

...

A couple small crumbs here

I know she is not a WW..

[Wisdom]

Mala and Rach?

Thought so. You were both obvious xD

[Wisdom]

That means they're not both scum.

So scumpool shrinks to [Mara, Mala, gm, {Cirno/Scott}]

Rach, what's yours?

[RachMarie]

How was I obvious before the paranoia part that is?

[Wisdom]

You were obvious when you went "omg everyone is claiming not monk" when it wasn't even happening.

[Wisdom]

So, who's scum, Rach?

[RachMarie]

Like I said I have not completely ruled Mala out yet as a potential mafia, but I KNOW she is not a WW.

I do think Mara is scumz in this game though...

My read on Mara is much stronger. Especially now that I remembered she replaced Honey bee.

[Wisdom]

Yeah, what about the other players?