League of Legends (Old)

[Benmage]

Are we still trying to do inhouse games?

In which case, count me in...

[Junpei]

Being able to guarantee at least one of any four given champions being on your team is a MASSIVE advantage.

I have never seen anyone get their top 4 champions banned/picked out before, even in LCS.

And even if it did happen, I don't think it'd be that big of a deal considering the freedom with the rest of the picks, unless the banned out player was bad.

[notscience]

Let me know when the OFFICIAL decision is made

Teams should get time to work together and mesh before we compete

[Saki]

Let me know when the OFFICIAL decision is made

Teams should get time to work together and mesh before we compete

my team doesn't even have me added, lol

[InflatablePie]

better idea for balance AND fun

blind pick aram customs, all four teams submit 3 bans each

gogogo

[Phillammon]

Being able to guarantee at least one of any four given champions being on your team is a MASSIVE advantage.

I have never seen anyone get their top 4 champions banned/picked out before, even in LCS.

And even if it did happen, I don't think it'd be that big of a deal considering the freedom with the rest of the picks, unless the banned out player was bad.

Allow me to rephrase that, it's not necessarily *your* top 4 champions, but at bronze and very low silver (ie the only places I have any experience of), the ability to guarantee that you get one of Thresh, Blitzcrank, Shen or Malphite on your team (or any other combination of the above) while being simultaneously able to make sure your opponent doesn't is 1) Pretty demoralising for the enemy and 2) Highly advantageous in game at that skill level.

[RadiantCowbells]

None of those are common bans at diamond, funnily enough.

[Phillammon]

Emphasis bronze and low silver.

Also that's not true, on EUW at least, inasmuch as thresh is one of the most frequent bans, but hey.

[Junpei]

in plat, thresh is banned in almost all my games.

other names you listed aren't common, but i see a shen or blitz ban sometimes, i hate blitz bans though; i think plat players are good enough to win a blitz lane

[mykonian]

There's probably an argument to be made that a larger champion pool for the same amount of bans is going to dilute the importance of first picking since there are more strong champions coming through.

[Cephrir]

Being able to guarantee at least one of any four given champions being on your team is a MASSIVE advantage.

I have never seen anyone get their top 4 champions banned/picked out before, even in LCS.

And even if it did happen, I don't think it'd be that big of a deal considering the freedom with the rest of the picks, unless the banned out player was bad.

Allow me to rephrase that, it's not necessarily *your* top 4 champions, but at bronze and very low silver (ie the only places I have any experience of), the ability to guarantee that you get one of Thresh, Blitzcrank, Shen or Malphite on your team (or any other combination of the above) while being simultaneously able to make sure your opponent doesn't is 1) Pretty demoralising for the enemy and 2) Highly advantageous in game at that skill level.

Low elo players vastly overestimate the ability of players at their level to actually play Shen

Malphite really doesn't scare me either

[RayFrost]

I like playing against shen and like... going teemo.

[xRECKONERx]

I don't usually ban Shen or Mummy. But they end up banned in the majority of my games. Thresh, Nunu, Elise, these are the scary ones.

[Elmo TeH AzN]

I don't usually ban Shen or Mummy. But they end up banned in the majority of my games. Thresh, Nunu, Elise, these are the scary ones.

I would be more scared of Leblanc but that's me.

[notscience]

I like playing against shen and like... going teemo.

This

[Jahudo]

I'm getting real good at buying oracles to find teemo mushrooms, then walking over them anyway.

[notscience]

I played against a Shen as Teemo yesterday, but my Twitch mid fed a Diana ;(

I was winning my lane and every time shaco would try to gank/take his blue it was mine :>

[Phillammon]

Look, it doesn't matter *which* champions it is, being able to guarantee one of the four of them is always going to be painful, so long as they're appropriate to skill level. Which is the point being made.

[Ankamius]

Blitzcranks are always funny to play against. People somehow think he's still really strong in lane.

[notscience]

Hi Blitz

Meet Morgana

[Junpei]

Look, it doesn't matter *which* champions it is, being able to guarantee one of the four of them is always going to be painful, so long as they're appropriate to skill level. Which is the point being made.

I still disagree. Wasting your 3 bans and pick on one person only happens if you value that persons' skill to be extraordinary, in which case they don't need to be on a main champion to stomp you.

And you'd be leaving open every strong pick in the game since you're banning specific champions.

[DeathRowKitty]

Allow me to rephrase that, it's not necessarily *your* top 4 champions, but at bronze and very low silver (ie the only places I have any experience of), the ability to guarantee that you get one of Thresh, Blitzcrank, Shen or Malphite on your team (or any other combination of the above) while being simultaneously able to make sure your opponent doesn't is 1) Pretty demoralising for the enemy and 2) Highly advantageous in game at that skill level.

Even if the banning phase is just "ban all the champions commonly seen as OP", it's not that simple.

Let's assume both teams actually consider Thresh, Blitz (lol?), Shen, and Malphite to be THE best champions. Blue team has first pick and first ban. If blue's first ban isn't one of those 4 champions, purple simply declines to ban one of them with first ban either. Now blue team is forced to use BOTH of its remaining bans on those 4 champions, or else purple team gets 2 of those 4 super-OP must-have champions. Overall, purple team has all 3 of its bans open for other things, while blue only had one free ban.

Really though, banning phase isn't that simple. I mean, in solo queue, it's not

much

more complicated than that, but it's not just a matter of banning from a pool of 4 champions that are unstoppable.

[Phillammon]

I rescind my case, my apologies.

[Saki]

Hi Blitz

Meet Morgana

or sivir or leona or anyone that can dodge the hook

[Elmo TeH AzN]

I'm getting real good at buying oracles to find teemo mushrooms, then walking over them anyway.

Did that today as singed.