Open 514: Monks and Masons in Serona - GAME OVER

[TheIrishPope]

100 PAGES!!!!

[Bert]

Mala, what should we ask TIP?

Oh..

how about:

1) What shoe size do you wear? Because if you are scum, I'll make you wear high heels. FTW BROTHA

and Mara actually reads TIP very well IIRC, but she may be tainted with her scumminess so cannot trust her as much. Nacho also reads TIP very well I think

<3

[Sakura Hana]

she's at L-2 tho

[Ms Marangal]

50 shades - Where is Nacho I WANT NACHO SO I CAN JUST READ HIM AND GET IT OVER WITH
Oh, there's Nacho. I don't know that I like 242

I didn't like this because she has a scumread on me for not liking one of my posts, yet has never followed up on this to any extent except when I have specifically questioned her on her read of me here.

Also: IN MULTIBALL NOBODY GETS TOWNCRED FOR GOOD READS DUH

brb, laughing myself to death

Dude, a 1 for 1 on a weak townie is the shittiest tradeoff ever. Now if you were accusing me of doing that to the hydra or Mala, that would almost be a good strategy now that I think about it.

don't really like the discrediting here.

I think you're Town, but obvs weak since there's a big fucking wagon on you.

"I think you're town but not town enough for me to actually engage your wagon!" is generally a giant sign of white knighting.

I don't like that this is a policy lynch gaining traction at this point in the day.
What I like even less is you championing it.
But what I like least of all is the fact that I'm even considering getting on it.

Um.

People keep fluffposting for no discernable reason. Sakura is Scum, Mafia in particular. bee leans Scum. Mala leans Scum. Marquis is really fucking annoying.
50 I'm not sure on, but I have a light scumread on them at this point.

Oh, look. Not a single change from the original scumlist! Which means no reanalyzing, no second thoughts, no anything.

Primarily because Nacho. I'm fairly decent at being able to tell when he's Town, and I'm not getting townvibes off him

She's able to tell I am TOWN but has only gotten to read me as town once, when she was a serial killer and paranoid as shit. She then claims she can read me from a correct read on me as scum from a deadthread when a townie was her stronger 90% scum suspicion and I was an afterthought. When I ask her to describe specific meta tells, she gives me nothing because it's all a load of bullshit.

SCUM

Becomes incredibly confident that Sakura is scum, but doesn't engage the people calling her town at all. And when Wisdom moves off, what happens?

Regardless, it appears that bee is the only one of my scumreads with a shot at being lynched today, so

Vote: Honey bee

She opportunistically immediately goes to compromise.

@Bert: For a start, I already have seen her as Scum in N1379, which I continued to follow after my death. I also checked out two town games of hers (M198 and N1383) and one other Scum game (N1371). Her behaviour in this game has been most similar to her behaviour in 1371, imo.

@Wisdom: Fine.

Vote: Mala

PEDIT: LOL SELF-META

...twice. She is not sheeping me, trusting me, anything like that. She is voting with us because she doesn't think she can get Sakura lynched on her own even though she hasn't appealed to a single person about the case.

Is this the case I'm supposed to comment on?

The Case is good I think, though I'm still not entirely sure on GM scum. It is weird that She has Sakura pegged as specifically mafia, with no chance of her being werewolf though I don't think she'd make such a huge alignment slip like that.

and if she was gonna white-knight, I think she would be doing it a whole lot harder, over being weak on it.

Opportunism is noted too

though the being able to tell X is town via meta without really being able to explain why isn't something I'm going to buy because I have been mislynched with that kind of argument so many times and it's not that strong an argument on it's own, though with everything else, maybe.

Pedit: sure you do, but as town, why would you?

it's a "Someone has caught me, and I don't know how to defend it" kind of attack

the Gem is more of that "caught scum is caught"

"I havn't lied, I havn't mis-repped, I have been playing town so why are you suspecting me?"

I have already figured out your alignment, you're scum of X faction.

You're response to 2016 is still caught scum who is frustrated.

and you still don't respond to why you're disappointed in my read of you when you say I can't read you that well anyway

Pedit: oh gawd

no, Mala I fight more as scum than town. Yes, I fight to get my scum reads lynched as either alignment but a wagon has never bothered me

Bert, I'm getting a town feel from TIP's opening, and more so from his more recent posts

PEDIT: STOP FUCKING POSTING DAMMIT

[TheIrishPope]

Never played with Nacho soooo

[Bert]

OK Mara, if you die, who do you want lynched tomorrow?"

and TIP boy dont you give me that "never played with nacho" ooh-la-la. You've played with Oil Tycoons, bub <3

[notscience]

Ah there we go

TIP is scum Bert dw

MARA YOU NEED TO FUCKING CLAIM

[Ms Marangal]

Ikr Mala, we should just Lynch Mara already so this day ends and all replacements can catch up during the night.

inb4 scum for voting her... which wouldn't surprise me at this point.

P-Edit: Intercepting, but i think that was a reply TIP's statement.

Um?

"Mara is scum, but she may be town with scum voting for her"

ok

[notscience]

Someone put her at L-1 for me

[Ms Marangal]

Ah there we go

TIP is scum Bert dw

MARA YOU NEED TO FUCKING CLAIM

a claim isn't going to do anything

[Ms Marangal]

OK Mara, if you die, who do you want lynched tomorrow?"

and TIP boy dont you give me that "never played with nacho" ooh-la-la. You've played with Oil Tycoons, bub <3

Sakura

[notscience]

Good to know

A-OK to hammer folks

[TheIrishPope]

OH RIGHT OIL TYCOONS
Well I have never played with Nacho solo sooo

[notscience]

Oh right, you joined Sitcom late

Someone ucking put mara at L-1.

[goodmorning]

MARA YOU NEED TO FUCKING CLAIM

notsci what setup do you think this is?

[Ms Marangal]

The seriousness of TIP's play so far is weird though

[notscience]

oh

duh

Mara TIP's scum but you are too, dw you'll both get rope

[50 Shades of Purple]

Yes, look at me for I am so Town

so what is your summary

[Sakura Hana]

Pedit: sure you do, but as town, why would you?

To figure out his alignment, and see if he pulls a excuse or is something genuine

it's a "Someone has caught me, and I don't know how to defend it" kind of attack

And how am I supposed to defend against you incriminating me for something i've never thought or said? oh right, you got quite a big imagination

the Gem is more of that "caught scum is caught"

Same as above

"I havn't lied, I havn't mis-repped, I have been playing town so why are you suspecting me?"

Don't put words into my mouth, I never mentioned the last part, So ok then what makes you think i DID lie and that I DID misrep?

I have already figured out your alignment, you're scum of X faction.

Nope you haven't, you haven't even tried to figure out my alignment at all.

You're response to 2016 is still caught scum who is frustrated.

And why can't town be frustrated?

and you still don't respond to why you're disappointed in my read of you when you say I can't read you that well anyway

I'm dissapointed because you're wrong, but I can't prove that until I flip, so you will know eventually.

[notscience]

My hammer is coming soon

[Sakura Hana]

Btw Mara, all your "Caught scum" shenaningans IS painting me as scum, so It's pointless to keep arguing with you. Anything I do you will peg it as if I was scum because that's the way you're thinking, All I do will be fake, All I do will be scum motivated, so until you prove me that you really thought I was scum, I'm going to continue believing that you're just trying to scumpaint me.

[Sakura Hana]

A true town oriented player that isn't painting someone as scum would have replied "So prove to me that you're town" instead of "lol no you're scum"

[Sakura Hana]

My hammer is coming soon

You can't hammer someone at L-2 tho

[notscience]

TIP voted her, she's at L-1

[Sakura Hana]

and Saki unvoted her