NY 165: A Large Normal (Game Over!)

[Rift Adrift]

Wait hang ton

What the hell do you think she is

A day cop?

I don't even want to speculate. She waited pretty late to flip out about you and that doesn't look look like it was investigation-driven. She was even pushing to just go ahead and hammer, and if we had, none of this discussion would have taken place.

So I am fucking skeptical there's anything about her role that would indicate the alignment of other players than Dram. BUT, cardflip. This is WIFOM without one.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

One of you and fery are scum

There I said it

Tonight I'm going to figure out which

(If I don't post tonight just assume I don't have Internet and so I won't be back by day end)

Pedit: did you miss the deductive reasoning post

[orcinus_theoriginal]

3995

[Rift Adrift]

i mean for the last 20 minutes or so when someone softed a guilty investigate

you've done nothing

OH OH OH

And now you suspect I have an

INVESTIGATIVE ROLE

and you want Rift Adrift to "retro-counterclaim" me???

HAHAHA

Oh you're so scum

Why would you think I'm softclaiming an INVESTIGATIVE result unless I was spot on

Oh no my dear

DEDUCTIVE POWERZ IS WHERE IT'S AT

This? I saw it. She's posted some really contradictory stuff, though. That or kuribo contradicted her.

I still haven't gone back through all this shit really carefully. Too many simultaneous games.

[Serene]

Tonight I'm going to figure out which

You can discuss all night with your team mates in your scum QT.

[Rift Adrift]

One of you and fery are scum

There I said it

Tonight I'm going to figure out which

(If I don't post tonight just assume I don't have Internet and so I won't be back by day end)

Pedit: did you miss the deductive reasoning post

So do you want us to hold off on the hammer?

[Serene]

So do you want us to hold off on the hammer?

Yeah. Ask the scum for permission.

You two are probably on different scum teams.

X-KILL!
X-KILL!
X-KILL!

[Rift Adrift]

So do you want us to hold off on the hammer?

Yeah. Ask the scum for permission.

You two are probably on different scum teams.

X-KILL!
X-KILL!
X-KILL!

Day 3 meltdowns are so fun. It's slightly less unpleasant to watch one than to have one. :/

[Serene]

Now everybody pay attention.

Orcinus knows I'm town.

But he wants my mason to be vig'ed.

That means he thinks that dram & I aren't scums claiming masons; no.

Orcinus KNOWS I'm town, and somehow I've pulled off fakeclaiming masons with some random player, WHOSE ALIGNMENT HE ALSO KNOWS.

And for some reason, he wants that player vig'ed. That reason is: orcinus is scum.

[Serene]

Day 3 meltdowns are so fun.

Oh yeah scum. I'm having a meltdown?

Why don't you quote Nero calling me "downs" again? Why don't you call me delusional? Why don't you tell everyone to ignore me? That's all you got, is to discredit me.

It's not a meltdown when you caught scum.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

One of you and fery are scum

There I said it

Tonight I'm going to figure out which

(If I don't post tonight just assume I don't have Internet and so I won't be back by day end)

Pedit: did you miss the deductive reasoning post

So do you want us to hold off on the hammer?

Yes please

[Rift Adrift]

Now everybody pay attention.

Orcinus knows I'm town.

But he wants my mason to be vig'ed.

That means he thinks that dram & I aren't scums claiming masons; no.

Orcinus KNOWS I'm town, and somehow I've pulled off fakeclaiming masons with some random player, WHOSE ALIGNMENT HE ALSO KNOWS.

And for some reason, he wants that player vig'ed. That reason is: orcinus is scum.

Well, I am against either of you being vigged and more importantly, so is ThirdKoopa so it's not going to happen.

And I think orcinus wants one of you vigged because he DOESN'T know.

Do you have a link to a post where orcinus indicates that he thinks you are town AND wants to vig one of you?

[Baby Spice]

To be fair, if anyone could pull off fake claiming mason as town, it's DGB.

[StubbsKVM]

Paranoia has struck?
I'll agree with orci about that post by Rift. It did feel off.

[DOMO]

4 explain why dram is not viggable

Post #4098, the one you ignored where I say dram is pretty much conf town, and even when he's scum one of the them gets picked off by the other faction before it becomes critical. Vigging dram is as stupid as a day one mason fakelclaim. The bullet should be used to thin down the pool of unknowns, not to confirm serene as mason when it gets confirmed in good time anyway. I expect you to reach this conculsion all by yourself.

I'm failing to see any town motivation whatsoever in asking for dram to be vigged. It makes no sense. Seems to me like you want a free NK.

[Cephrir]

There's no scum motivation either, it's just plain ridiculous.

[DOMO]

Seems to me like you want a free NK.

Scum motivation.

[Cephrir]

I see the argument, but I don't believe he could possibly actually expect dram to be vigged.

That's why I called it a towntell initially, because it was too absurd a suggestion for scum to make.

Given recent developments, however, I'm not as sure as I once was.

[DOMO]

The real reason orc wants dram shot is because orc knows it's optimal for koopa to shoot at ank, orc, rift or crabd, seeing as I have shown why there's a good chance there's two scum in there, while there's probably 3 scum in the remaining 8 (the 7 I named plus myself). Doesn't take a genius to figure out which group has a higher success rate. If orc were town in that group of four, he should be asking koopa to shoot at that group, because there's a good chance of hitting scum, and even if orc gets shot, he would recognise his townflip helps us immensely. That is unless he disagrees with the idea that the NKs implicate the town bloc heavily, but he has already said that he finds the kills weird, and has turned on rift and crabd. So why does orc want a claimed mason shot when it has a near zero success rate, instead of shooting at a group of four with a 50% success rate? Because he's scum who doesn't want to get shot.

You're right ceph, it's a little absurd to think that orc thinks he can actually get dram shot. But seems to me that scum fucked up with their kills last night, and so it's more or less forced. Orc really doesn't want koopa firing at his cosy little town group. It gives him less places to hide. And firing at the larger group either bags scum, or removes a potential mislynch. I expect orc to be a little more subtle with his scum stratgey, but this isn't solid town strategy he's spewing at us.

He's either derp town or scheming scum. I find the latter much easier to believe.

[Cephrir]

I don't agree with respect to the townbloc, I trust my reads over NK speculation any day (though I can imagine certain members thereof being scum), but you do have an argument.

[Rift Adrift]

Tonight's kills will p much have to lead to a clearer picture of the game state.

[Thirdkoopa]

I hope to god I shoot scum. I'm not counting on an SK or a second scum team for the life of me.

[Serene]

There's no scum motivation either, it's just plain ridiculous.

I happen to know there is scum motivation.

[Serene]

The real reason orc wants dram shot is because orc knows it's optimal for koopa to shoot at ank, orc, rift or crabd, seeing as I have shown why there's a good chance there's two scum in there, while there's probably 3 scum in the remaining 8 (the 7 I named plus myself). Doesn't take a genius to figure out which group has a higher success rate. If orc were town in that group of four, he should be asking koopa to shoot at that group, because there's a good chance of hitting scum, and even if orc gets shot, he would recognise his townflip helps us immensely. That is unless he disagrees with the idea that the NKs implicate the town bloc heavily, but he has already said that he finds the kills weird, and has turned on rift and crabd. So why does orc want a claimed mason shot when it has a near zero success rate, instead of shooting at a group of four with a 50% success rate? Because he's scum who doesn't want to get shot.

You're right ceph, it's a little absurd to think that orc thinks he can actually get dram shot. But seems to me that scum fucked up with their kills last night, and so it's more or less forced. Orc really doesn't want koopa firing at his cosy little town group. It gives him less places to hide. And firing at the larger group either bags scum, or removes a potential mislynch. I expect orc to be a little more subtle with his scum stratgey, but this isn't solid town strategy he's spewing at us.

He's either derp town or scheming scum. I find the latter much easier to believe.

Will you marry me

[DOMO]

Will you marry me

Um... are you wealthy?