Newbie 1381 Oakhaven is Overrun Game Over

[Tamuz]

lol.

jmo do you need to hear me expound on anything or shall I engage the crossposts?

[jmo16mla]

Well, I mean, one of you two are scum. So you might as well cross vote. Il be re reading the game.

[Tamuz]

VOTE: Gen_Wolf

[Nobody Special]

Votecount 4.01

Gen_Wolf - 1 - Tamuz
Tamuz - 1 - Gen_Wolf

Not Voting: jmo16mla


with 3 playing its 2 to lynch.


Deadline is in (expired on 2013-08-14 06:49:27)

[Gen_Wolf]

VOTE: Gen_Wolf

I didn't see this one coming! /sarcasm

[jmo16mla]

why arent you defending yourself?

[Gen_Wolf]

Me? I know I am not scum.

I have been here since the beggining (almost) and I have said everything I need to.

uoyeluri Fropome* Hyperion** Tamuz - this slot however has been doing nothing until Tamuz arrived and then just because activity arose from a slot where there was none before he is given townie recognition. I know he will say that he earned it and he worked for it but that is bollocks. The only reason people don't see his play as scummy is because there was no one in that slot prior to him actually playing so we have nothing to gauge his play against.

[Tamuz]

Interesting to say

I know I am not scum

As opposed to "I know I am town". I'm no Freudian, but might one call that a Fox Paw?

As to the rest of your post you're basically saying "Tamuz is scum because he replaced lurkers who lurked so hard they had to be replaced". Lets ignore how stupid of a statement and look around it.

1. I have 78 posts. If you want to convince jmo that my slot is scum you could actually present something I've said/done, explain how it is consistent of scum. You do not.
2. Again you whine here. You whine that I'm 'seen' town and how its 'just because my slot became active' and that its undeserved. I feel the summary is 'Its not fair that people think Tamuz is town just cause'.
3. Despite your whining about how I was 'just given townie recognition', N64 thought of me as possible scum as recently as Post 1000 and jmo called me Tip's partner as recently as Post 1124. The misrep is strong in this one.

As for Gen_Wolf and why he is scum? This post.

Guys, at some point we are going to have to lynch, I hate losing so I hope you are right but I think Tamuz has the most compelling case. I am willing to vote TiP today, lets hope you right.

It is a little bit of an omgus, heres for trying to bus me Pope, but sorry,

this bus is full, muddafuka

Lets bite this bullet

vote: Irish

jmo, if you'd like me to redigest the was this post is scummy I can.

[Gen_Wolf]

Mellow. JMO must just vote me then end the game. You have a very good way of making the games un-entertaining.

Anyways, I am ready for the almighty twist. I see the newspaper headlines tomorrow "Tamuz replaces in to get an almost perfect scum win". People will be shouting your name from the rooftops. People will be speaking of Newbie 1381 for centuries. This game will set a precedent throughout mafiascum that will overshadow any past achievement ever ascertained on this site. They will speak of how you fought to the very end. You will be a scum legend among scum, a ultimate victor among victors. One day, in my children's history class they will speak of Tamuz, the almighty mafiascum player who was so good he fooled everyone by creating fake numbers to ascertain 'who was scum'. When the numbers did not work, it was through no fault of his own, obviously, but rather the fault of the townie who did not act townie enough. They will praise you, worship you, honour you. For you are the almighty Tamuz.

Anyways, that is how I feel about this game. Sad that it has come to this but glad the end is in sight.

You see, I know I am not scum and yes if I want to speak from a negative perspective I will. At the end of the day it makes no difference, ultimately I could say "I know I am town" but you see Tamuz, I am town unlike you. Now, saying you have played a better game than me to convince JMO you are town and I am scum would be a lie. You played a harder game than me, and that I can admit.

[Tamuz]

lol.

[jmo16mla]

Prod dodge

[Tamuz]

Oh and my trip got postponed for bad weather , so I'm here and not VLA now.

New plan is to head out next Wednesday. I do expect this game to be over by then, but I figure I should keep the VLA stuff up to date.

[Gen_Wolf]

Oh and my trip got postponed for bad weather , so I'm here and not VLA now.

New plan is to head out next Wednesday. I do expect this game to be over by then, but I figure I should keep the VLA stuff up to date.

Rather safe than sorry with the weather though

Anyways, i don't have much to say until I hear from JMO

[jmo16mla]

I disagree. I personally feel a no lynch would be better but I have been shunned upon lately. I disagree with the logic.

the question seems genuine and the part in the middle is pure fluff filling the post?

vote jmo.

you should have been lynched d1

Don't like this.

[jmo16mla]

Gen, if you have no desire to play, replace out.

[Gen_Wolf]

I am playing.

Just putting my case together

[jmo16mla]

Screw this game dude.

[jmo16mla]

Gut says vote gen, hyper was scummy as hell though.

[Tamuz]

prod dodge, I guess.

[Tamuz]

So yeah. I mean I can write the Gen's relation to the TIP-wagon makes him TIP's partner post and/or the Gen dodges content by making extended appeals to emotion without giving any reason to say why my slot is scum post.

But neither are novel posts and would end up with a lot of C+P. So again, if you want them or anything from me, ask.

[jmo16mla]

Both of you. Why is the other scum,

Then, draw what makes them tip's partner. Go.

[Tamuz]

OK. Lets look at Gen and TIP, remember to ask yourself, "is this more consistent of scum or town?".

So coming out on D3 what was GW thinking?

talah(replacement?)/jmo scum team

Out of the gates he shows no interest in TIP who, remember, hammered without readingright before. we continue on in D3 and Gen offers 0 reasoning of why he thinks anyone is scum until we get to this,

I disagree. I personally feel a no lynch would be better but I have been shunned upon lately. I disagree with the logic.

the question seems genuine and the part in the middle is pure fluff filling the post?

vote jmo. you should have been lynched d1

At this point jmo was attacking/voting TIP. This vote without reasoning looks like an attempt to protect his scum buddy. The vote also strengthens the idea that GW is at least looking at a jmo scum member, as does this one,

i need to sleep. Im still for jmo lynch.

So its fairly nicely established that GW wanted and pushed a jmo lynch early D3. (and for some perspective, I did come out day 3 saying TIP is scum and I think jmo is his buddy... scum could want to use that and push the jmo lynch. Clearly my mind changed).

The next post gets into what I consider a scumslip, and there is little argument against is, but first we need to establish definition for Bussing.

Bussing is the act of distancing yourself from your scum partners

Bussing = scum on scum.

The first post where Gen really mentions known scum TIP is here,

The only reason I am weary to vote TIP because mala seemed townie and influential. However, the fact TIP is bussing me makes me want to vote him. I would prefer a JMO lynch? Run your TIP case by me again please? Sorry, its cause its lylo and im scared haha

He's amishing TIP, giving him credence for something TIP didn't do.

He says TIP is bussing him

. Again, bussing is scum-on-scum.
Again he pushes a jmo agenda, but looks for a reason to limp onto a TIP vote/bus, despite adding no reasoning of why he'd think TIP is scum.

And the culmination here, the bus post itself.

Guys, at some point we are going to have to lynch, I hate losing so I hope you are right but I think Tamuz has the most compelling case. I am willing to vote TiP today, lets hope you right.

It is a little bit of an omgus, heres for trying to bus me Pope, but sorry,

this bus is full, muddafuka

OK to establish here, the tone of this post shows that he thinks it is a lynch vote, but look at the reasoning.

Gen wolf engages in a large amount of heding and self-justification. "We are going to have to lynch", "Lets hope you['re] right." The text here is Gen making himself feel better about his vote. This goes even further with the message to Pope: 'sorry, this bus is full, muddafuka '.

He apologizes to, someone we now know as scum, that he is lynching. If you're feeling sorry about a lynch as a townie and its not deadline why are you lynching? This SCREAMS bussing and more congnitive dissonance, this time to his partner. Oh, he also calls it a bus. Twice. Gen writes as if he had to make this vote and he feels bad about it and held his nose as he did so.
"sorry", "at some point we [have to] lynch", and "I hope [TIP is] right".

And last look at the reasoning here. Prior Gen wanted a jmo lynch, but wasn't getting it. He provided 0 case against TIP other than 'TIP tried to bus me'. This post he reiterates the bussing and adds no other reasoning. He limps on to this wagon with "I think Tamuz has the most compelling case". No personal write-up on why TIP is scum, he just leans on other's posts. This is a clear case of limping in to try and lynch a scumbuddy apologizing and hedging the entire time.


Can get to scumvoidance discussing dissonance later.

[jmo16mla]

It would suck if I was scum.

[Tamuz]

I would be very amused

[jmo16mla]

waiting for you gen...