La Isla de la Muerte (Game over!)

Desperado · Post Post #150 (ISO) » Thu Aug 01, 2013 1:09 pm

If I can't go find the games that you're talking about, then what did you mean when you said "And that's not meta where you have to guess at something. It's black and white."

Because it's looking like now you're saying I would have to guess at it, and that it isn't black and white because some of the meta is inaccessible.

SalmonellaDoctor · Post Post #151 (ISO) » Thu Aug 01, 2013 1:13 pm

In post 149, Desperado wrote:
In post 143, SalmonellaDoctor wrote:Some offhand comment doesn't indicate a claim.
It wasn't offhand. He said it was black and white and that he's a) never rolled scum and b) only rolled town PR 7 times. It really can't be interpreted any other way.

What if he ended up being a PR in eight games? Would you string him up for being a liar?
~SD

Klick · Post Post #152 (ISO) » Thu Aug 01, 2013 1:15 pm

waynegg wrote:
In post 140, Klick wrote:
SCUM

SD
Sakura
Mitzi
Why Mitzi? I see what people are saying about SD, but I'm not completely convinced.

Mitzi was just kinda association with SD.

Desperado · Post Post #153 (ISO) » Thu Aug 01, 2013 2:24 pm

In post 151, SalmonellaDoctor wrote:
In post 149, Desperado wrote:
In post 143, SalmonellaDoctor wrote:Some offhand comment doesn't indicate a claim.
It wasn't offhand. He said it was black and white and that he's a) never rolled scum and b) only rolled town PR 7 times. It really can't be interpreted any other way.
What if he ended up being a PR in eight games? Would you string him up for being a liar?
~SD

Uh, yeah probably. He's the one who brought it up.

Karnage · Post Post #154 (ISO) » Thu Aug 01, 2013 2:50 pm

VOTE: Sakura Hana

I wouldn't have wasted my time reading through that shit if she would have just clarified her "reason" instead of arguing semantics. Plus I find sheeping scummy.

Sakura, at the time of your vote did you think waynegg was scum? if so, why?

Hydrochloric Hydra · Post Post #155 (ISO) » Thu Aug 01, 2013 3:17 pm

WOW WAYNE IS SO OBV SCUM

VOTE: WAYNEGG

waynegg · Post Post #156 (ISO) » Thu Aug 01, 2013 3:18 pm

In post 153, Desperado wrote:
In post 151, SalmonellaDoctor wrote:
In post 149, Desperado wrote:
In post 143, SalmonellaDoctor wrote:Some offhand comment doesn't indicate a claim.
It wasn't offhand. He said it was black and white and that he's a) never rolled scum and b) only rolled town PR 7 times. It really can't be interpreted any other way.
What if he ended up being a PR in eight games? Would you string him up for being a liar?
~SD
Uh, yeah probably. He's the one who brought it up.

Then look at the games you can find. I gave you the websites. And stop pissing and moaning.

waynegg · Post Post #157 (ISO) » Thu Aug 01, 2013 3:19 pm

And what makes you say that GiF?

Hydrochloric Hydra · Post Post #158 (ISO) » Thu Aug 01, 2013 3:21 pm

I'M NOT GIF.
HE'S IN V/LA UNTIL 5TH SO I HAVE TO DO ALL THE WORK FOR HIM UNTIL THEN.
WHAT A PAIN.

Skullduggery · Post Post #159 (ISO) » Thu Aug 01, 2013 3:26 pm

I'm not sure whether this is relevant or not, but my role PM said that there are only 16 contestants on the island. Just throwing that out there.

In post 36, Belisarius wrote:How the deuce do I keep collecting so many nemeses?

I dunno. You just make good nemesis material, I suppose. You should take it as a compliment.

In post 40, waynegg wrote:Because you're obviously just following someone else's lead to apply pressure to a RVS. That's pretty baseless.

In post 42, waynegg wrote:If you stall again on the direct answer to a direct question I might be forced to think you're pulling shit straight from your ass and that you don't have the conviction you're trying to convey.

Is it realistic to expect Sakura to have conviction on a vote she made on page two during RVS?

In post 49, Hydrochloric Hydra wrote:KLICK IS A JESTER.

In post 52, Hydrochloric Hydra wrote:OBVIOUS

Why do you think that Klick is a Jester? It's not obvious to me.

In post 71, Sakura Hana wrote:Sure thing because they are both blind to the reason and kept saying my vote was baseless and pushed me for it.

To be fair, Belisarius didn't actually say that.

In post 72, Sakura Hana wrote:My reasoning had ALREADY been mentioned in my post and neither of them saw it, even tho seems like no one else had a problem with my vote.

And if they were Town, are you confident that they would have seen it?

In post 91, JasonWazza wrote:This early fake bussing RULES.

Who is fake bussing?

In post 101, waynegg wrote:And I'm not assuming she has no reason. I've asked her repeatedly to give her reason. Which she seems unable to do.

This seems like a bit of a contradiction. You think she does have a reason, but she's unable to say it? Why? If she can't provide a reason, that means she has no reason. If Sakura is Scum, what would be her motivation for choosing not to divulge this reason? According to your logic, her alleged refusal to answer you is only making her appear scummy. Why would she want to do that?

In post 128, Desperado wrote:Why did you just claim VT

In post 137, Desperado wrote:Why'd you just claim PR?

Why are you role-fishing?

waynegg · Post Post #160 (ISO) » Thu Aug 01, 2013 3:27 pm

Ah so it's VI with the personal grudge because I twisted him up so much in a Newbie...

Are you really going to play that way this game? How about playing to your wincon instead?

Hydrochloric Hydra · Post Post #161 (ISO) » Thu Aug 01, 2013 3:28 pm

I AM.
I'M VOTING SCUM RIGHT NOW.
I PROBABLY SHOULD TALK WITH GIF BUT SCREW HIM

Desperado · Post Post #162 (ISO) » Thu Aug 01, 2013 3:31 pm

In post 156, waynegg wrote:
In post 153, Desperado wrote:
In post 151, SalmonellaDoctor wrote:
In post 149, Desperado wrote:
In post 143, SalmonellaDoctor wrote:Some offhand comment doesn't indicate a claim.
It wasn't offhand. He said it was black and white and that he's a) never rolled scum and b) only rolled town PR 7 times. It really can't be interpreted any other way.
What if he ended up being a PR in eight games? Would you string him up for being a liar?
~SD
Uh, yeah probably. He's the one who brought it up.
Then look at the games you can find. I gave you the websites. And stop pissing and moaning.

Why would I do that? You just told me I will never have access to some of the games you're referring to (even though you originally said your meta was in black and white, no guesswork necessary), so even if I did track down your other games it wouldn't make a difference.

PEdit:

Skull: my role PM doesn't mention contestants at all.

Desperado · Post Post #163 (ISO) » Thu Aug 01, 2013 3:33 pm

And I wasn't rolefishing. Wayne said his town meta was in black and white and then gave a specific number of games in which he was a PR. I was just supposed to pretend that, given the information he provided unprompted, he hadn't just claimed?

waynegg · Post Post #164 (ISO) » Thu Aug 01, 2013 3:35 pm

In post 159, Skullduggery wrote:
Is it realistic to expect Sakura to have conviction on a vote she made on page two during RVS?

If she says it's serious, it means it isn't RVS, which means she has a reason. Besides, it sure got a lot of discussion going, yes?

This seems like a bit of a contradiction. You think she does have a reason, but she's unable to say it? Why? If she can't provide a reason, that means she has no reason. If Sakura is Scum, what would be her motivation for choosing not to divulge this reason? According to your logic, her alleged refusal to answer you is only making her appear scummy. Why would she want to do that?

Because she said she had reason

Because she had enough people taking her side to bolster her confidence

waynegg · Post Post #165 (ISO) » Thu Aug 01, 2013 3:37 pm

So, Desparado, do you really think you need to see every game I've played to realize the truth in my statement or are you just being facetious?

waynegg · Post Post #166 (ISO) » Thu Aug 01, 2013 3:38 pm

In post 161, Hydrochloric Hydra wrote:I AM.
I'M VOTING SCUM RIGHT NOW.
I PROBABLY SHOULD TALK WITH GIF BUT SCREW HIM

And yeah, you probably should. Your reads are almost always wrong.

Skullduggery · Post Post #167 (ISO) » Thu Aug 01, 2013 3:40 pm

In post 163, Desperado wrote:And I wasn't rolefishing. Wayne said his town meta was in black and white and then gave a specific number of games in which he was a PR. I was just supposed to pretend that, given the information he provided unprompted, he hadn't just claimed?

Okay, fair enough. Why do you suppose he brought it up in the first place then?

In post 164, waynegg wrote:Because she said she had reason

Because she had enough people taking her side to bolster her confidence

If she was Town, would this bolstering of her confidence have looked any different than it does now? If so, how?

Hydrochloric Hydra · Post Post #168 (ISO) » Thu Aug 01, 2013 3:42 pm

In post 166, waynegg wrote:
In post 161, Hydrochloric Hydra wrote:I AM.
I'M VOTING SCUM RIGHT NOW.
I PROBABLY SHOULD TALK WITH GIF BUT SCREW HIM
And yeah, you probably should. Your reads are almost always wrong.

PRETTY SURE I SNUFFED OUT BOTH SCUM IN THAT GAME IN DAY 1.

ANYWAY I'M GONNA ASK TIPPY FOR THE REASON OF THE VOTE AND I'LL LET YOU KNOW.
ALSO AS TIPPY SAID I'M ON V/LA TIL 5TH.

Desperado · Post Post #169 (ISO) » Thu Aug 01, 2013 3:42 pm

In post 165, waynegg wrote:So, Desparado, do you really think you need to see every game I've played to realize the truth in my statement or are you just being facetious?

I'd like to know why you bragged about always catching scum D1, proclaimed you'd never ever rolled scum, and then told us that "this isn't meta you have to guess at, it's black and white" when it was, in fact, meta that we have to guess at? Like what was the purpose of that line of logic in your head and why did you share it if you were just going to tell us that we couldn't verify it?

Desperado · Post Post #170 (ISO) » Thu Aug 01, 2013 3:42 pm

In post 165, waynegg wrote:So, Desparado, do you really think you need to see every game I've played to realize the truth in my statement or are you just being facetious?

I'd like to know why you bragged about always catching scum D1, proclaimed you'd never ever rolled scum, and then told us that "this isn't meta you have to guess at, it's black and white" when it was, in fact, meta that we have to guess at? Like what was the purpose of that line of logic in your head and why did you share it if you were just going to tell us that we couldn't verify it?

Desperado · Post Post #171 (ISO) » Thu Aug 01, 2013 3:44 pm

In post 167, Skullduggery wrote:Okay, fair enough. Why do you suppose he brought it up in the first place then?

That's what I'm trying to find out. For some reason he doesn't think I'm taking this line of inquiry seriously, and instead of explaining where he was coming from, he's telling me to do something that he just told me I wouldn't be able to do, and also to stop pissing and moaning.

waynegg · Post Post #172 (ISO) » Thu Aug 01, 2013 3:56 pm

In post 163, Desperado wrote:And I wasn't rolefishing. Wayne said his town meta was in black and white and then gave a specific number of games in which he was a PR. I was just supposed to pretend that, given the information he provided unprompted, he hadn't just claimed?

Because I hadn't claimed anything. Other than town. You were supposed to read what's there and not add shit to it which isn't there.

pedit Maybe. I think she would have just answered the damned question rather than saying she had answered it. Especially when it was more than just me who pointed out she had never really given an answer. Still hasn't, but that's another matter entirely.

pedit2 Rapid fire... GiF, yes, you sniffed out the scum; Pope sat there and bemoaned the loss of the Roleblocker even though he was town. That's why I said he should probably ask you.

pedit3 You're pissing about not being able to use ongoing games and 2 chat games and saying because of that nothing is provable. Are you mental?

waynegg · Post Post #173 (ISO) » Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:01 pm

And that isn't bragging. It's truth. Look at Newbie 1387. Look at Xeno (though I had nothing to do with that, even though I found a completely separate scum D1 that flew under everyone's radar and was trusted town so much he was in the townbloc). Search my posts if you wish to go there. Stating the truth isn't bragging. It's stating the truth. You're just jelly.

Desperado · Post Post #174 (ISO) » Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:04 pm

In post 172, waynegg wrote:Because I hadn't claimed anything. Other than town. You were supposed to read what's there and not add shit to it which isn't there.

I didn't add anything. Unprompted, you told us that you've never been scum and you've only been non-VT 7 times. You were very specific and you told us that this isn't guesswork, it's black and white. When I followed up on it you told me that I couldn't get a complete meta if I tried.

What was the purpose of #127?