La Isla de la Muerte (Game over!)

[Klick]

Voting waynegg is a bad idea because waynegg is town.

TOWN

Klick
waynegg
Jason

LEANING TOWN

Desperado
SD

LEANING SCUM (or, DO SOMETHING)

HydroHydra
PV
Mitzi

SCUM

Sakura

SK

Skull

WHO THE HELL KNOWS - POLICY VIG SHOTS

Saki
boxxy

NULL

Belisarius
Karnage
Ten_Heavens
TMTOLBTWNTOF
Who
Zoidberg

[StrangerCoug]

VOTE COUNT

JasonWazza (1): Ten_Heavens
Saki (1): Hydrochloric Hydra
Sakura Hana (5): boxxy, Belisarius, Karnage, Klick, waynegg
SalmonellaDoctor (1): PeregrineV
TMTOLBTWNTOF (1): Mitzi
waynegg (5): SalmonellaDoctor, JasonWazza, Sakura Hana, Desperado, Zoidberg
Not voting (4): Saki, Skullduggery, TMTOLBTWNTOF, Who

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2013-08-19 00:03:14).

SalmonellaDreams's post out of hydra has been deleted by his request.

[Zoidberg]

Voting waynegg is a bad idea because waynegg is town.

How do you figure

[Klick]

So, how about explaining that. Why were you role fishing, and then when called out for it what town motivation is there to add shit to statements that isn't there and push a mislynch? There's no town motivation to what you're doing. I've answered your questions. I could give two shits whether you're personally satisfied with the answers. You've actually made me move to the computer instead of spending quality time with my lady so I could stop being ninja'd by you before I could even respond. Fuck you for that. Now rant on with your scum ass and keep digging that grave. Make sure it fits the way you like.

VOTE: Desparado

This isn't scumposting. The objective of this post is not to get people to follow him onto a mislynch, or to gather town points, but to vote scum.

Do you have anything to support him being scum?

[SalmonellaDoctor]

Why are we in your town list now, Klick?
~SD, but DP was the one who said something to me about it.

[Klick]

Because the original reason for suspecting you was kinda dumb, and looking at your posts, I see more town motivation than scum motivation. So I guess you could say gut.

[Sakura Hana]

I love how you're asking players to sheep you against me, when you haven't mentioned why you think I'm scum.

[PeregrineV]

Some offhand comment doesn't indicate a claim.

It wasn't offhand. He said it was black and white and that he's a) never rolled scum and b) only rolled town PR 7 times. It really can't be interpreted any other way.

Since he's referring to his wiki and not discussing ongoing games on any site, he would of course only be mentioning completed games.

If you want to lay out the evidence for why this is otherwise, feel free to do so.

[Klick]

I love how you're asking players to sheep you against me, when you haven't mentioned why you think I'm scum.

Well, if you insist.

tl;dr: Sakura's reactions to things are completely fake, and their purpose is not to find scum, but to paint people (specifically waynegg) as scum.

I'm using it as a way to start discussion. Nice misrep. And you still haven't answered the question. Why should your vote be taken as serious? It can't be without a clear reason. You get one more chance to answer.

I'm not misrepping you, and I already had started discussion so nice attempt to steal town cred there, I'd think if you didn't want to push a BS reason and call my vote baseless town would be... idk... asking me WHY am I voting you instead?

This is basically the tl;dr, word for word.

A baseless vote is supposed to be taken as serious why?

Heck I'm quoting you, you're asking why is a baseless vote serious, not why i'm voting you, stop your fucking misrep and learn to at least pretend to be town and not be so damn obvious that you're scum.

This post really has no point. Instead of just correcting him, Sakura really sells the point that waynegg is deliberately misrepping her and that he's obvious scum.

So i was out playing Civ V, come back and waynegg is even scummier, leaving my vote there, bye.

Regardless of whether or not Sakura is town or scum, I believe that this post was fabricated to keep selling the idea that waynegg is "obviously" scum without actually bringing anything new to the table. Now, the scum motivation for this is that she gets to play off an attitude of being incredibly confident in her read and possibly being sheeped, and if the wagon eventually succeeds and is a mislynch, she can blame it on waynegg's posting style. Fabricating an attitude is very useful for scum, so this is good enough motivation. Town motivation... there's not really any. It can be chalked off to trying to appear lazy, but she obviously read through the thread enough to deduce that waynegg was "even scummier."

Cool we've found 3 scum already, that's nice. This game is turning out pretty easy.

Another case of fabricating a laid-back attitude.

You're really trying to reach too far out to land a lynch on me with your sillyness waynegg, but you know you'll be lynched tomorrow after I flip anyway, so why keep being so stubborn?

"I'm looking at this from a townie perspective! Look at me, I'm so cocky!"

Your obvious painting me as scum for not answering a question that you never asked but I had already answered, and paintng on everyone defending me as scum, that's scummy behaviour right there. I don't see any town motivation for that.

This is loaded with ways to put waynegg in the worst light possible in this situation.

[Sakura Hana]

You know you can lynch me for all I care, here i'll help you out
VOTE: Sakura Hana
But look at waynegg, Belisarius and Klick tomorrow for pushing a case against me of... nothing actually that case says nothing.

[PeregrineV]

Just vote waynegg

What's the worst that could happen?

He's a bomb that blows up players in reverse alphabetical order.

[PeregrineV]

You know you can lynch me for all I care, here i'll help you out
VOTE: Sakura Hana
But look at waynegg, Belisarius and Klick tomorrow for pushing a case against me of... nothing actually that case says nothing.

What is your town motivation for your vote?

[Sakura Hana]

None

[Sakura Hana]

Why not lynch me and then you'll find out

[Desperado]

@ Klick: I couldn't really come up with any scum motivation for Wayne's 177.

@ wayne: that was town v town at its finest. Let's be friends, yeah?

Vote: Sakura

There's no case against you but you self vote? Certainly if you think wayne/beli/klick are all scum pushing an early wagon together then the people who are actually town would be able to see through their bullshit right? If Klick's case against you says nothing why didn't you respond to any of it?

[Sakura Hana]

Because it says nothing... so there was nothing to respond against.

[Sakura Hana]

And no, town always mislynches me when someone forms a case on me ._. regardless of it's validity

[Desperado]

tl;dr: Sakura's reactions to things are completely fake, and their purpose is not to find scum, but to paint people (specifically waynegg) as scum.

^This is definitely saying something.

[Sakura Hana]

Do you agree with it?

[Sakura Hana]

I mean, how am i supposed to prove something isnt fake? im just typing the same way I always do, this is why I hate it when people scumpaint me, nothing I can do about it, just lynch me already.

[Desperado]

It's certainly compelling.

PEdit: By engaging Klick's case and expressing your town intent behind the things he's highlighted as fake.

[Desperado]

And certainly not by self-voting and then shutting down. Quote his case and respond to it.

[Klick]

L-3.

[Sakura Hana]

So you want me to explain what I've explained already?
First point: Someone asks me a question, then that person scumpaints me for not responding to a question they never answered.
Second point: I go play something, when im back that person is STILL arguing the semantics of said question, nothing changed, if anything they are being over-defensive.
Third point: I know i'll flip town, what do I have to fear about being lynched?
Self-Vote: This is me giving up because BS cases like those always make town mislynch me, I've had too many bad experiences with it, so I might as well give up now than spend 50 pages to end up getting mislynched anyways, no one wastes time that way.

[PeregrineV]

None

Then why do it as town?