The Walking Dead Mafia! ( Game Over )

[Toogeloo]

For our replacements, "The Walking Dead Mafia! Abridged Version."

Day 1 starts, MattP claims Hated Townie with a Lynch threshold of 2. Thor votes, then Toog (me) votes to hammer. MattP says, "lol, I was just kidding," and reads from the fake claim ensue. Toog (me) asks who Glenn is in the game, shortly after Amrun says she is and asks why, to which Toog (me) replies no reason but to break ice, which frustrates Amrun. Toog claims Maggie. Day 1 hits 30 pages in like 12 hours, during which conversation is mostly centered on pushing StupendousKey lynch and a variety of people giving reads on other players. Some people don't show up, or have very minimal posts during this time, including ActionDan, PeregrineV, Red Coyote, Ellibereth, chesskid, GuyInFreezer, OhGodMyLife, and a few others. Ellibereth claims to want to hammer, a few more votes eventually happen, Elli hammers. SK flips Oscar, Vanilla Townie.

Day 2 starts, Trust Fund (VT), chesskid (Goon), and Majiffy (Town Redirector) all dead. Titus slot does some analysis on the terribad SK lynch, but votes GuyInFreezer (who wasn't on the lynch) and also speculates on the kills, stating the Trust Fund kill was Mafia shot. OGML states the perspective slip and votes Titus' slot. No Brains states the reverse perspective slip on OGML, stating OGML doesn't take into consideration Titus might be a Vig and have knowledge. People vote Titus slot, half the hydra gets bent out of shape and is subsequently ejected from the game. Thor comes in, suddenly people don't like Thor for a variety of reasons. An Elli push starts due to Elli's bad play overall, Elli laughs at it. OGML claims Vig who killed Majiffy (for posting too much and looking scummy day 1), and pushes Titus harder. Titus claims Morales, Vanilla Townie. No Brains laughs, asks more votes on OGML. MattP claims Vig, chaos ensues. No Brains then claims Vig. MattP says his claim was fake because he knew No Brains was Vig and he was trying to protect their claim. No Brains states the specifics of their role, which turns out to not be a Vig at all, but a role that influences the walker kills at night. No Brains argues semantics that their role is a Vig, others try to correct No Brains and state how the mechanic works and other players can influence walkers as well.


You are now more or less caught up on the major events of the game. Feel free to continue reading though.

[Toogeloo]

EBWOP: When No Brains claimed Vig, they also claimed responsibility for killing chesskid.

[Toogeloo]

Oh, and...

Unvote;
Vote: Ellibereth

We can give Titus a day I suppose. At least he's talking.

[TheIrishPope]

I'm going to tl;dr that supposed tl;dr
tl;dr: you write too much foo'

[Toogeloo]

If you are looking for people to sheep, I would suggest MattP, OGML, Desperado, or Amrun. No Brains is pretty much conf-town, but they have a really bad tunnel problem. Everyone else listed is more or less a strong chance at being town based on reactions and overall play.

[No Brains Here]

hey toog, are you ready to talk flavour with me and discuss how the suffocation nk makes sense as a scum nk yet?

I would really love it <3

[TheIrishPope]

Toog, I'm sheeping you. Who are you voting?

[Ellibereth]

no fucking way you didn't see the preview when posting 2203
no fucking way

[Ellibereth]

is faraday in irish?

[Ellibereth]

but yeahk
I'll come back tomorrow
I have to meet with professor tomorrow and need to prove some stuff asaply lolol

[Toogeloo]

I think suffocating someone is just as generic a killing flavor as shooting someone through the head. If anyone was going to suffocate another player though, it'd probably be more likely to be done by the Governor or Shane, or possibly Milton, if we are talking strictly from a flavor perspective since Shumpert and Martinez are mostly always seen using automatic weapons.

Speaking of which... Jury is still out on Milton even being a Mafiosi too. He's not a bad guy, he doesn't agree with the Governor or his use of Walkers, he tries to save Andrea, he burns up all of Woodbury's walker supplies, and he is more or less similar to Merle in terms of redemption.

Flavor Spec is fun, but generally fruitless of course.

[TheIrishPope]

Uh, Irish is in Irish.

[Toogeloo]

Mafia Types (imho).

The Governor - Leader or Woodbury, primary Season 3 Antagonist
Shane - Rick's best friend, driven insane due to jealousy over wanting Rick's wife, and the primary antagonist in Season's 1 and 2 (less so in 1).
Martinez - The Governor's Right Hand man and Enforcer.
Shumpert - The Governor's Left Hand man and Enforcer.
Tomas - Inmate who tried to kill Rick to take their supplies and take the Prison as their own with the other inmates.
Andrew - Inmate who was allied with Tomas. He escapes after Tomas is killed, and is responsible for breaking the security of the prison which ends up killing T-Dog and Lori.

Milton - Wild Card. He's technically allied with the Governor, mostly a sciencey geeky type. He finds redemption in the end and betrays the Governor in every way he can and is killed by the Governor.
Merle - Wild Card. He just wants to survive and be where the greatest chance of that happening is. He is an antagonist for the core group through Season 1 and 3, ends up helping them and dying for them.


Considering that OGML claimed Merle, and I believe his claim, I think it's safe to say he isn't allied with the Mafia.

I'd say it's possible any of the Inmates could also suffocate a player, but most of them had slashing weapons like axes and such.

[No Brains Here]

I think suffocating someone is just as generic a killing flavor as shooting someone through the head. If anyone was going to suffocate another player though, it'd probably be more likely to be done by the Governor or Shane, or possibly Milton, if we are talking strictly from a flavor perspective since Shumpert and Martinez are mostly always seen using automatic weapons.

Speaking of which... Jury is still out on Milton even being a Mafiosi too. He's not a bad guy, he doesn't agree with the Governor or his use of Walkers, he tries to save Andrea, he burns up all of Woodbury's walker supplies, and he is more or less similar to Merle in terms of redemption.

Flavor Spec is fun, but generally fruitless of course.

yeah, I want to have fun.

so how does the suffocating nk make sense from a govner/group scum perspective? shumpert clearly makes sense as a goon hence as you pointed out that he uses automatic weapons.

[Titus]

For our replacements, "The Walking Dead Mafia! Abridged Version."

Day 1 starts, MattP claims Hated Townie with a Lynch threshold of 2. Thor votes, then Toog (me) votes to hammer. MattP says, "lol, I was just kidding," and reads from the fake claim ensue. Toog (me) asks who Glenn is in the game, shortly after Amrun says she is and asks why, to which Toog (me) replies no reason but to break ice, which frustrates Amrun. Toog claims Maggie. Day 1 hits 30 pages in like 12 hours, during which conversation is mostly centered on pushing StupendousKey lynch and a variety of people giving reads on other players. Some people don't show up, or have very minimal posts during this time, including ActionDan, PeregrineV, Red Coyote, Ellibereth, chesskid, GuyInFreezer, OhGodMyLife, and a few others. Ellibereth claims to want to hammer, a few more votes eventually happen, Elli hammers. SK flips Oscar, Vanilla Townie.

Day 2 starts, Trust Fund (VT), chesskid (Goon), and Majiffy (Town Redirector) all dead. Titus slot does some analysis on the terribad SK lynch, but votes GuyInFreezer (who wasn't on the lynch, due to our previous case) and also speculates on the kills, stating the Trust Fund kill may have been Mafia shot, set up to frame our slot and then push a hard lynch on Jon Doe (Titus). OGML states the perspective slip and votes Titus' slot. No Brains states the reverse perspective slip on OGML, stating OGML doesn't take into consideration Titus might be a Vig and have knowledge. People vote Titus slot, half the hydra gets bent out of shape and is subsequently ejected from the game. Thor comes in, suddenly people don't like Thor for a variety of reasons. An Elli push starts due to Elli's bad play overall, Elli laughs at it. OGML claims Vig who killed Majiffy (for posting too much and looking scummy day 1), and pushes Titus harder. Titus claims Morales, Vanilla Townie. No Brains laughs, asks more votes on OGML. MattP claims Vig, chaos ensues. No Brains then claims

Vig

Walker Manipulator. MattP says his claim was fake because he knew No Brains was Vig and he was trying to protect their claim. No Brains states the specifics of their role, which turns out to not be a Vig at all, but a role that influences the walker kills at night. No Brains reveals that their role is not a precise Vig, others try to correct No Brains and state how the mechanic works and other players can influence walkers as well.


You are now more or less caught up on the major events of the game. Feel free to continue reading though.

I modified a few things. When doing recaps, unbiased language should be used. I also added in my reasoning and some clarification on the Vig claim. Overall, very well done though.

It seems you have a hidden bias towards Brains as scum. Do you have her as a scum read?

[Toogeloo]

From a Mafia group perspective, I really don't know. Hence the reason I thought the suffocation was Serial Killer flavor when day broke. Most mafia games tend to have the mafia "shoot" someone, Serial Killers tend to use knives, but suffocation seemed like it could make sense as well. After the claims though, the Suffocation kill became the known Mafia kill, so not entirely sure who or why the Mafia group suffocates their victims. It might be possible that it's just the flavor because it's supposed to be the "hidden" kill since Vigs don't typically hide and Mafia do, so it was supposed to be more stealthy since flavorly speaking, we are all together in one place, not Prison v. Woodbury taking pot shots at each other.

P-Edit: No, I have No Brains as town, with a bad tunnel complex. And you have to remember, No Brains claimed to be a Vig when they first claimed. It took pages of posts before dots were connected that they weren't actually a vig. Even still, they occasionally refer to themselves as a vig. I tried to be as accurate when it came to the fine details in the abridged version as I could, and I also tried not to be biased as best as possible. You adding your reasoning for the GiF vote makes it just as biased though.

[Toogeloo]

@Mod: Gonna be limited access for about a week. I still have access to internet though, but just noting it.

[Toogeloo]

@Mod: Gonna be limited access for about a week. I still have access to internet though, but just noting it.

[No Brains Here]

Mafia Types (imho).

The Governor - Leader or Woodbury, primary Season 3 Antagonist
Shane - Rick's best friend, driven insane due to jealousy over wanting Rick's wife, and the primary antagonist in Season's 1 and 2 (less so in 1).
Martinez - The Governor's Right Hand man and Enforcer.
Shumpert - The Governor's Left Hand man and Enforcer.
Tomas - Inmate who tried to kill Rick to take their supplies and take the Prison as their own with the other inmates.
Andrew - Inmate who was allied with Tomas. He escapes after Tomas is killed, and is responsible for breaking the security of the prison which ends up killing T-Dog and Lori.

Milton - Wild Card. He's technically allied with the Governor, mostly a sciencey geeky type. He finds redemption in the end and betrays the Governor in every way he can and is killed by the Governor.
Merle - Wild Card. He just wants to survive and be where the greatest chance of that happening is. He is an antagonist for the core group through Season 1 and 3, ends up helping them and dying for them.


Considering that OGML claimed Merle, and I believe his claim, I think it's safe to say he isn't allied with the Mafia.

I'd say it's possible any of the Inmates could also suffocate a player, but most of them had slashing weapons like axes and such.

I agree with the list the group's enemies. tomas and andrew do not support govner scum aligned scummates tho. that is the only thing I disagree with.

the sniper shot can be a possible fit with a vig cos of the group's attack on woodbury at night, so I can see ogml being a possible vig. but the suffocation nk does not make sense from a group scum perspective.

eta: catching up with xposts

[Toogeloo]

Do you think it's multi-ball then?

My assumption at this point is that Shane and the Inmates are all part of the Governor's group of Mafia team.

[TheIrishPope]

Hold up. Why you mentioning multiball.

[Sugar Cain]

you know? I would have thought that Daryl would have been a vig but I guess not.

[Sugar Cain]

you know? I would have thought that Daryl would have been a vig but I guess not.

[No Brains Here]

From a Mafia group perspective, I really don't know. Hence the reason I thought the suffocation was Serial Killer flavor when day broke. Most mafia games tend to have the mafia "shoot" someone, Serial Killers tend to use knives, but suffocation seemed like it could make sense as well.

After the claims though, the Suffocation kill became the known Mafia kill

, so not entirely sure who or why the Mafia group suffocates their victims.

It might be possible that it's just the flavor because it's supposed to be the "hidden" kill since Vigs don't typically hide and Mafia do, so it was supposed to be more stealthy since flavorly speaking, we are all together in one place, not Prison v. Woodbury taking pot shots at each other

.

P-Edit: No, I have No Brains as town, with a bad tunnel complex. And you have to remember, No Brains claimed to be a Vig when they first claimed. It took pages of posts before dots were connected that they weren't actually a vig. Even still, they occasionally refer to themselves as a vig. I tried to be as accurate when it came to the fine details in the abridged version as I could, and I also tried not to be biased as best as possible. You adding your reasoning for the GiF vote makes it just as biased though.

wrt the bold: I am still trying to make sense that you are jumping to the conclusion that the suffocation kill is the mafia kill.

wrt the italicised: which one do you think is more stealthy and more personal, a rifle shot to the head or a pillow? which one fits the sk modus operandi or one of group scum?

[No Brains Here]

Do you think it's multi-ball then?

My assumption at this point is that Shane and the Inmates are all part of the Governor's group of Mafia team.

how are you making that out to work in your head?

shane never met the govner nor did the inmates. so how does that work for group scum?