Mini 1482: Castle - A Mafia Murder So Vile (GAME OVER)

[Malakittens]

[Beckett realizes Castle stole documents about the Tisdale and Fisk murders]
Kate Beckett: Richard Castle, you are under arrest for felony theft and obstruction of justice.
Richard Castle: You forgot making you look bad.
Kate Beckett: You know, for a minute there, you actually made me believe that you were human. Cuff him.
Richard Castle: Ooh, bondage. My safe word is "apples."
Kate Beckett: [to the cops cuffing Castle] Oh, there's no need to be gentle.
Richard Castle: How'd you find me, anyway?
Kate Beckett: I'm a detective. That's what I do.
Richard Castle: My mother told you, didn't she?

1.05

With thirteen alive it will take seven to lynch.

*macmollie - Mantisdreamz, thenewearth [2]
*theslimer3 -
*Sweet Pertayter -
*thenewearth -
*Mantisdreamz - havingfitz [1]
*Wisdom - ArcAngel9 [1]
*ArcAngel9 -
*Desperado - macmollie, Bert [2]
*Lynx_Shine -
*Bert - Desperado, Lynx_Shine [2]
*Natirasha - Natirasha, Sweet Pertayter [2]
*penguin_alien -
*havingfitz - Wisdom [1]

Not Voting [2]: theslimer3, penguin_alien

Chapter 1 Ends..

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2013-08-16 03:52:00)

(There are no hints/clues in this flavor or in any flavor of the vote counts or death scenes. It's for entertainment purposes.)

[penguin_alien]

macmollie's casualness comes off as town.

Lynx_Shine, why does it seem like you're saying that anything Bert questions isn't worth him doing so, but his actually scum hunting is scummy to you?

[macmollie]

UNVOTE:

mollie dearest i am going to take you into a corner and whisper sweet nothings into your ear until we both see that desp is town, is that okay?

great first post

[havingfitz]

i didn't see it in the OP

VOTE: macmollie

With as active as you were posting on page one I find if hard to believe you hadn't looked over the OP...especially considering you went to the trouble (for whatever reason???) of posting the ~same picture the mod used in it. And I don't know about everyone else but I know the first thing I usually do when I join a game or the game starts is to see who I'm playing with...and the mod clearly stated who the hydra's players were. So your excuse for asking a question that has already been answered comes across as weak...on top of the fact the asking of the question was unnecessary. All that makes me raise an eyebrow but then you go and vote macmollie for absolutely no reason. So so far your play doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

So VOTE: Mantisdreamz

no i didn't properly look at the OP. i posted the pic because i wanted to get to the next page for a post count. and i realized, that i had (stupidly) posted the same pic as the mod. (which i kind of found funny at the time)

It was page 1. You couldn’t just look at the page to see who had been voted? And what made you think getting to the end of the page…which you didn’t even do, would produce a votecount? Yes...the mod was around and did happen to post a votecount but I don’t see why your posting of a picture would be presumed to facilitate one. And now…in addition to saying you didn’t look at the OP…you’re saying you didn’t even notice the big ass picture at the top of the page….which you had posted on 3 times already? See…I’m of the opinion you’re either making shit up (feigning ignorance about the game) or you are actually just not bothered to know…which I find equally suspect. In summary…I find feigning ignorance and not really being concerned with the game to each be suspect.

i kind of think that your vote on me for not reading the OP properly is a little weak, actually. or trying to be played off as a good reason for a vote.

I can accept the fact some might think it’s a weak vote given that I made it early in page 3…and how often are there really strong reasons to vote someone that early in a game? But they were legitimate reasons IMO nonetheless. As for playing them off as good reasons…the reasons are what they are, I spelled them out clearly. Would you expect someone to try and present bad reasons for voting?

i voted mollie to see how she would react, and also because she has not said much so far. (i've played quite a few games with her)

Was your vote supposed to make her more active? She had just made a post (a vote on you) prior to you voting her. Why are you pointing out that you’ve been in a lot of games with her? Are you saying you know how to read her?

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havingfitz is scum. 62 is terrible, especially the reasoning on the Mantis vote. Not only it looks like an overjustification for such an early stage, but it makes too many assumptions that arrive at forced conlusions (for example "i always read the op, everyone is supposed to read the op, you didn't, you're scum")

What is terrible about my post 62? You have a problem with me asking Bert and penguin questions?

And then on my Mantis reasoning…how is it an overjustification if the points I’m bringing up, that I am finding suspect to some degree, actually exist for me to find suspect? Why not list them? Should I water down my suspicions when I find somebody suspect? <Answer: Hell no.

And what assumptions have I made? I’m not saying anyone who does anything differently than I do is scum. I’m providing the perspective I’m coming from that is causing me to doubt something Mantis has said or done. That perspective being that while I do not always (aka almost never) read the OP word for word…I do at least know who I’m playing with when I am in a game. And if I have a question about a player I would at least glance at the player list to see if the answer was there. Plus…Mantis’ (feigned IMO) ignorance of mollie’s part in the macmollie hydra could be distancing as well. If either of them do turn out to be scum that would be a nice line for the other to refer back to.

I’m good with my Mantis vote still.

Not caring for macmollie’s post#2 . And I assume you meant me macmollie when you referred to dry fitz (Dry-fit?). Why is lynching me (along with desp and Wisdom) all you want to do?

Not liking Natirasha atm (i.e. suspect) for the same reasons voiced by Bert and SP.

Really not liking theslimer atm (i.e. not liking) for their contribution to the game. “Hi?” Seriously? #$%^&*!

Also…fyi mod, I start a 10 day road trip tomorrow afternoon so I’ll be v/LA from 8-18 Aug. I’ll have my phone so I should be able to chime in but I might bust a prod deadline and I’ll definitely be more succinct while I’m gone.

[Malakittens]

I just did some detective clean up.

I have sent out a search party for ArcAngel9 who's gone missing.

I fixed the hydra's alt slip and put the file back into the right case.

[ArcAngel9]

Huh, I forgot that i am playing in mala's game after my vacation, thanks for the poke mala.

Considering that AA's posted more in this single game than in all my other experiences with her combined, I'm tempted to say she's scum.

Ha ha ha ha, Funny yet not true. Nice try Natirasha but i have so many town games that i had excellent amount of posts.

Considering that AA's posted more in this single game than in all my other experiences with her combined, I'm tempted to say she's scum.

Not sure if that's a tell...

But yeah, she lurked and never caught up in almost two full game days in the last game I was in with her. She ended up getting lynched as town in LYLO asking for a massclaim when the setup was open and everyone is supposed to know the only roles remaining are VT. :/ So yeah, bad memories of empty posts and promises about "I'M GONNA POST MORE SOON" which never came to fruition.

And then, the game where she was scum, she lurked a ton as well, but at least she knew what she was doing when she was there and had real reads and such.

OMG, you're such a big mouth Bert. Huh!!!! Get over it!!

Vote: thenewearth

Huh!!!

VOTE: mantis

Why?

I don't mind macmollie's for the same reason I'm asking Mantis that question.

So the reason you don't like mine is because you aren't suspicious of thenewearth?

Why would she suppose to suspicious of newearth, there was hardly anything to suspect, this is a lame post Despo.

Om Nom Nom,

Don't you play with me now

Don't you get Mara on your side about me

Who

Who are you to mispronounce Sweet Potatoes

I am most displeased with not being in the know *cry*

Bert, sweetie

Don't cry, You are town I know you are town

lets work together and catch scum

I will never work against you this game

never ever, and if I do I give you permission to yell and scream at me until I get my head on straight again

<3

Huh, Both of you. .Get a room please..

I hate hydras btw.

(sorry for not being so quippy in this game, I'm having trouble staying interested in it, to be honest)

This is spam, and i hate these kind of filler posts. FOS!!

I hate hydras btw.

(sorry for not being so quippy in this game, I'm having trouble staying interested in it, to be honest)

Vote: Natirasha

An excuse not to advance this game along? "You know, I'm not talking cuz I'm just not interested so far, so I'm gonna just let y'all know, so I can lurk and wait and see when it's convenient for me to post and not garner attention."

That's terrible.

this exactly what i felt when i saw her post. I am too leaning Scum on Natirasha.

Bert I don't think being bored is indicative of Nats' alignment. That's a bad vote with an even worse justification.

how does Bert vote was bad comparatively with yours?

arc, newearth, lynx, and fitz are all town until further notice

Another post i don't like very much. How are you assuming that all thesse are town. newearth? really, he hardly said anything and your RVS vote was on him? So inconsistency in your posts , its like there is no connection.

@Bert: Self-Vote, Hydra hating, And ESPECIALLY BOREDOM, Are not tells. They are completely null. COMPLETELY

Desperado Looks so town.
Lynx_Shine is also town.
Nat is bored town-null
I would have said bert is town but...

Vote: Desperado

Bert is scum.

all I wanna do is lynch desp, wis and dry fitz.

tator is town for early paranoia after 1 post, mantis feels town, desp's wking of nats person (hated post #92) makes me want to put nats person as town also she is calling too much attention to herself, bert is town, mantis is town everybody else is pretty boring cos I don't remember any of you

let's see what this does

VOTE: desperado

Why do I feel that... This is such a biased read that came from mollie?

Macmollie also scumz

VOTE: Macmollie

Bert's their buddy. So we can lynch him later

ha ha ha, are you kidding me earth, are you high on something or what? How is it sensible in what Natrisha said ?
And what exactly is your conclusion about Bert's and Despo's little argument?
And how is in the earth you end up voting Macmollie when you think Bert is scum??


As of now, I feel...

Bert - town
Wisdom - town
macmollie - town

Natrisha - Leaning Scum
Despo - Scum or idiot (trust me, i have seen him town him doing something stupid like this, Despo, i need you to work with me if you're town. Stop this pointless arguments over nothing)
thenewearth - Total derp and pointless cases on people.

Sweetpotato - possible town
fitz - One of those hard to people to read, null for now
and rest, haven't posted enough or seen enough to get a conclusion on them.

That's all for now!!!!!!!!
now lets discuss further..

[Bert]

Ummmmmm....

Meh, Arc's post is pretty townie..

she keeps going HUH!!!! and that's the townie reaction Nacho said to expect when she is fired up like her usual self lol

HUH HUH HUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And wow guys, hope you guys are gonna make this game really interesting soon....Please don't make me throw up all over the thread with my useless critiques and criticisms.

<3333333

[ArcAngel9]

whateverthatsupposetomeanbertandyoureanabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz!!!!!!!huh!!

[macmollie]

Why are you voting Desp, mollie?

cos I wanted to get inside his head and explore

Mollie, explain fitzscum to me.

Of your nulls, lynx and arc are both town.

Can you explain why you interpreted my push on Bert as whiteknighting Nat?

cos I am coming from a perspective in that I am town reading bert. have you ever played with him before?

[macmollie]

UNVOTE:

mollie dearest i am going to take you into a corner and whisper sweet nothings into your ear until we both see that desp is town, is that okay?

great first post

mollie <3 mac

UNVOTE: desperado

[Wisdom]

macmollie - town

Why?

[Desperado]

Why are you voting Desp, mollie?

cos I wanted to get inside his head and explore

Mollie, explain fitzscum to me.

Of your nulls, lynx and arc are both town.

Can you explain why you interpreted my push on Bert as whiteknighting Nat?

cos I am coming from a perspective in that I am town reading bert. have you ever played with him before?

Nope. What games should I be looking at? And fitzscum?

@ Arc: My read on Newearth would seem inconsistent if you skipped over the posts that explained why I was voting him.

Desperado, why come in and vote someone who hasn't posted when there's a whole exchange going on right above your post? Mantisdreamz, why ask if pirate mollie's in the macmollie hydra when that info is in the OP?

1) Which exchange, Mantis - Potato or Bert - Potato?
2) What about those exchanges seem interesting?
3.1) Mantis - Potato exchange was pretty much "Hi this guy scum --> No he's not --> Oh OK" So I don't really understand what's supposed to "ping" me, as well
3.2) Bert - Potato exchange was pretty much "Oh hi town --> DON'T U SAY I'M TOWN --> Why not? --> BECAUSE I VOTE YOU"

Vote: thenewearth

MUST... NOT... OMGUS...

Oh you're actually town this game. Good to know.

Unvote
Vote: Bert

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...I didn't think he'd posted because when I looked for his name in the ISO menu I was thinking 'newearth' instead of 'thenewearth' and stopped scrolling.

So are you saying you didn't care for Desperado's vote on thenewearth because you didn't think TNE had posted yet? Because you got their name wrong when looking for posts in the Activity Overview area?

Yeah, not my shining moment in reading comprehension. To elaborate, my line of thought was that a bare vote wasn't much in the way of pressuring someone to participate if that was his goal. And I thought we were starting to move past RVS, so it being totally random didn't feel right.

I've rolled scum with Newearth before in Micro 150 and wanted to judge his reaction to an early wagon because he got wagoned early D1 in then. Didn't get a wagon but his response was genuine and that one post had more pro-town motivation than his entire ISO in the Micro.

Does that make more sense?

And I gave reasons for why all four of you were town. You skipped that post too.

Arc - #18
Newearth - #60
Fitz - #62
Lynx - #64

And you would ask her why she's bored because if you make an effort to engage with her, she might not be bored anymore! Which means she'll be providing more content, which means we'll be able to read her better.

Assume she's town and telling the truth about being bored. Which approach do you think is more likely to produce a positive reaction, mine or yours?

[macmollie]

@ desp

he subbed into this game as scum (he is nachopappa) here:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=28979

he was town and melted down and rage quitted here:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=28626

he is easy lynchbait for scum and if you are looking for him to make sense you are not going to find it. he is active and engaged and I am reading him as town and it isn't unusual for him to sheep other people's wagons.

I was kinda hoping that we could have had a spat to stir things up a bit but mac isn't gonna let me. what do you think of wis?

[Desperado]

He's wrong about Fitz and I'd be interested in his take on #128. Not sure why he ignored it.

I also don't understand his Mantis read. He says they just lean town and needs to post more, but two of his scum reads are directly related to votes on Mantis. I don't really understand the thought process there.

I will read those games and let you know how I feel about Bert

[Bert]

Catching up here and unvoting.

Yeah, Desp, you better go read those games and get back to Mollie. OR ELSE

Oh god, Fitz's walls again GRRRRR do I have to read that ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh OK I'm caught up

[Bert]

Why are you voting Desp, mollie?

cos I wanted to get inside his head and explore

Unvote

I am trusting you so far but you know what thank you for reading me town but I Can't tell yet whether I can trust you for sure yet but I better be able to cuz Nacho's not here to tell me what he thinks of you but I give you the benefit of the doubt for now

[Natirasha]

Oh god.

I have to play a whole game with this Bert guy.

Oh god.

[Bert]

Oh god.

I have to play a whole game with this Bert guy.

Oh god.

OH BABY, oh darling

I have waited for this moment my entire life, sweetie.



I'm Gonna GETCHA if you're scum, ya hear...

GET COZY

[macmollie]

He's wrong about Fitz and I'd be interested in his take on #128. Not sure why he ignored it.

I also don't understand his Mantis read. He says they just lean town and needs to post more, but two of his scum reads are directly related to votes on Mantis. I don't really understand the thought process there.

I will read those games and let you know how I feel about Bert

okay. so what do you think of wis?

[Desperado]

I felt the same way about my predecessor. This was my first time to be scum as well. I felt like if I gave my "reads," Nacho would know that it would be BS. I was hiding/lurking like a coward. Hahaha. Being town is so much more fun for me!

That quote from 503's post game seems pretty apt.

Unvote: Bert

Talk to me about Wisdom. Is the endless one line post ISO their playstyle or is it a relative scumtell? Because so far this game looks an awful lot like Wisdomscum from 503.

[Bert]

/in before Wisdom comes in and says "There is no scum Wisdom or town Wisdom"

[macmollie]

I felt the same way about my predecessor. This was my first time to be scum as well. I felt like if I gave my "reads," Nacho would know that it would be BS. I was hiding/lurking like a coward. Hahaha. Being town is so much more fun for me!

That quote from 503's post game seems pretty apt.

Unvote: Bert

Talk to me about Wisdom. Is the endless one line post ISO their playstyle or is it a relative scumtell? Because so far this game looks an awful lot like Wisdomscum from 503.

yes. wis is scum. let's lynch him

VOTE: wisdom

he does a lot of 1 liners as both alignments but his questions lack follow-up and it seems like town wis would complaining about the slow pace of the game. he isn't the easiest person in the world to meta but this is a gut read too.

[macmollie]

bert plz do some scum hunting tia

focus

^^^ I find it funny I am having to tell another person to focus

[Bert]

You are usually very focused, what are you talking about <3

OOOOOOOH

See Wisdom, they meta'd you.

And you're going down, down down. Back down. Don't back down down.

But OK, IMA give my reads once I re-read in a wee bit. <3

[Desperado]

Vote: Wisdom