NY 165: A Large Normal (Game Over!)

[Rift Adrift]

How long are we going to keep this going today?

We'll keep this going until we're damn well good and ready to lynch properly and we get some goddamn damage control on this fakeclaim clusterfuck. Now sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up until we tell you what the fuck to do. You've done enough fucking damage this game.

[Thirdkoopa]

Really? That was necessary? That's quite rude to say the least. You didn't have to say fuck five times, but whatever. I think it's bad enough that Orc quit the game; you don't have to make more people feel like shit.

It's not like we have a clear guilty unlike yesterday. I understand that this fakeclaim nonsense needs to be sorted out, and believe me, I'm not happy about it either. I'm trying to ask questions here to gauge my own opinion, and I'm trying to inject some life into the conversation. Just as an FYI, I'm the one who

told

you guys that Dram could just self-hammer and why L-2 is a fine enough place. If you guys want to even use all the deadline time, sure, whatever. I don't give a shit. We have our lynch for today either way, let's just not run around in circles.

As for the shots I've made, Stevie was a good shot. I can't say as much about Orc, but considering the roleblock WIFOM that WOULD exist now if I didn't shoot him, I damn well say that was a good shot. Maybe most of you wouldn't have done it exactly how I've done, and I'll admit I've made my mistakes. It's a sad day when I've got us in this situation, but if it wasn't for that, all we'd have is more townies, which really wouldn't mean much if they were kept around for fucking lynchbait anyways. Unless we just have an SK or a second scumteam that just loves to shoot fucking lynchhbait. I made some bad calls. I feel bad enough.

Here's the thing I have: Dram hasn't said whether he's hit yet or not. I'm fine with lynching the BP claim as is regardless even if it does make sense from my point of view. Why? It's going to hold way too much WIFOM until the future days now.

What I just don't see is this: If Serene is scum and Dram is town, why would they do that? Unless we're playing with multiball here, I just can't see any reason for that. I think it's probably either town and town, both are scum, or Dram's scum. I'm going to avoid saying too much to give scum ideas, but these are just my thoughts overall.

[Rift Adrift]

I share my partner's sentiments about your kill choice ThirdKoopa. I will never ever understand your N3 kill.

And there absolutely no reason to be rushing this day to conclusion. Your still having a wall post in you proves that.

[Thirdkoopa]

I share my partner's sentiments about your kill choice ThirdKoopa. I will never ever understand your N3 kill.

And there absolutely no reason to be rushing this day to conclusion. Your still having a wall post in you proves that.

I'll agree that Orc wasn't the best kill, but as I said, let's say we did go through with the massclaim. Crab's block would end up meaning a ton of shit (Assuming Crab's town). I'll still say it wasn't the best kill choice and I should have probably went with what I originally had in mind: Jon or Stubbs. If we lose the game because of that, I'll take part of the blame for fucking that up.

Still can't say Stevie was a bad shot at least, though. And at the very least, I didn't do what I was REALLY scared of - Hitting a town PR.

I

never

said we should rush this day to a conclusion. I'm asking how long you all want to spend on it - I think another 48 hours at the very

least

is good. I have a lot in me to say before we hit night, and a LOT left to ISO.

I do also want to know because I want to have an idea how much time we have left so I don't pull a Night 3 again.

[Thirdkoopa]

Also, if I did at any point say we should rush the day, that's a my bad. I thought about it more as well, and we definitely have more on the plate than Day 3.

[Thirdkoopa]

Also, if I did at any point say we should rush the day, that's a my bad. I thought about it more as well, and we definitely have more on the plate than Day 3.

[Rift Adrift]

Vote Count 4-1

(as of Post 4426)

dramonic (6)

- Serene, Rift Adrift, Ankamius, KingCrabd, Thirdkoopa, DOMO

Serene (1)

- StubbsKVM

Not Voting (7)

- Baby Spice, Baezu, BROseidon, dramonic, jon_h61, penguin_alien, Shadi1337

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch

Deadline:

Tuesday, August 20, 2013 at 3pm Central Time ((expired on 2013-08-20 15:01:01))

Replacing:

No one

Prods:

None

V/LAs:

None

^^ countdown timer is in every vote count post PeregrineV makes.

I am in no hurry to end the day. I want specifically to hear more from Jon and PA.

And Stubbs. Like for instance why Stubbs think Serene is the better lynch today.

Also Shadi is welcome to continue posting antitown crap because that's doing wonders for my read.

[Thirdkoopa]

August 20th?

Well, I don't think we need to use all the way until that late for sure. I say at the earliest we end the day is the 11th. We still have a lot to talk about.

And yeah... I don't get how Serene is the better lynch. Dram will give us info no matter what he flips.

[Rift Adrift]

August 20th?

Well, I don't think we need to use all the way until that late for sure. I say at the earliest we end the day is the 11th. We still have a lot to talk about.

And yeah... I don't get how Serene is the better lynch. Dram will give us info no matter what he flips.

Simon says... (or in this case Syr says)



Not following Syr's instructions will result in fery having a Serene level meltdown. For your sake, I recommend you shut the fuck up.

[Baezu]

Ank, do you have a read on anyone from last night?

[Rift Adrift]

Ank, do you have a read on anyone from last night?

Ankd claimed to be a 2 shot cop.

[Baezu]

We have our lynch for today either way, let's just not run around in circles.

There's plenty of time in the day to change wagons if presented with better evidence.

[Baezu]

Ank, do you have a read on anyone from last night?

Ankd claimed to be a 2 shot cop.

So he has no more reads for the rest of the game, huh?

Thanks.

[Thirdkoopa]

There's plenty of time in the day to change wagons if presented with better evidence.

IF. Though, this bakes the question: What

would

be better evidence? What would be enough for

you

? Let's say the wagon is in your control. My interest has piqued.

Simon says... (or in this case Syr says)

Not following Syr's instructions will result in fery having a Serene level meltdown. For your sake, I recommend you shut the fuck up.

You're telling a fellow member of town to STFU. How is that helpful at all? If it's not too rude to ask, try actually replying. If it's how long we should use in the day, you can just say "However damn long we please". I'm not in any rush to end the day, and I for sure don't see this day ending anytime.

And no, I'm not going to stay quiet. That's just being useless. I want to at least make up for the damage I've done as failvig, shutting up.

[Baezu]

I'd like to hear a case on Serene, honestly. I would also consider lynching jon or babyspice, given the new information that she may be godfather. I think a babyspice flip would also give us a lot of information and is less likely to be a mislynch.

[Rift Adrift]

a fellow member of town

You shouldn't be that sure I'm town. Unless you know it for a fact.

[Thirdkoopa]

a fellow member of town

You shouldn't be that sure I'm town. Unless you know it for a fact.

There we go, we've cooled down now, anyways...

I'm taking this in the context of if you are town or scum, not saying that you are town. It's not productive at all... Well, unless you're scum to be getting rid of a protown voice, but I don't have much confidence in most of my reads so far right now anyways

(this might change after I ISO)

[Rift Adrift]

I'd like to hear a case on Serene, honestly. I would also consider lynching jon or babyspice, given the new information that she may be godfather. I think a babyspice flip would also give us a lot of information and is less likely to be a mislynch.

This is a corner we're backed into re the fake mason claim. My gut says Serene is town but after all the fucking gambits they've pulled so far, I don't trust my gut wrt them.

On day 1 Calcifer had a town read on dram. Because of their read, I did a meta dive on dram and came up with some concerns, which were answered by "crazy set-up, had to get involved day 1 to head off bad mechanics decision."

[Rift Adrift]

a fellow member of town

You shouldn't be that sure I'm town. Unless you know it for a fact.

There we go, we've cooled down now, anyways...

I'm taking this in the context of if you are town or scum, not saying that you are town. It's not productive at all... Well, unless you're scum to be getting rid of a protown voice, but I don't have much confidence in most of my reads so far right now anyways

(this might change after I ISO)

Do not patronize me.

[Thirdkoopa]

Do not patronize me.

Hey, I'm complementing you. Even if you are scum, you'll benefit the town more by getting me to shut up.

/low self confidence

[DOMO]

#4475 is totally unnecessary. The orc kill was fine based on the information we had at the time. You might disagree rift, fair enough, but I'd have shot orc if I were vig. He looked like scum at the time and he was going to be tough to lynch. Stevie kill is fine because lot's of people suspected him. Koopa has missed town PRs. He's doing a fine job imo.

koopa is our most confirmed townie. Please let's not ask the person who should be leading the town to sit down and stfu.

[DOMO]

lot's

I hate bad apostrophes. I deserve a slap.

[Rift Adrift]

#4475 is totally unnecessary. The orc kill was fine based on the information we had at the time. You might disagree rift, fair enough, but I'd have shot orc if I were vig. He looked like scum at the time and he was going to be tough to lynch. Stevie kill is fine because lot's of people suspected him. Koopa has missed town PRs. He's doing a fine job imo.

koopa is our most confirmed townie. Please let's not ask

the person who should be leading the town

to sit down and stfu.

Syr will disagree with you on the necessity of that post, I imagine.

Totally disagree with the bolded. There are other candidates if we are looking for a town leader.

You

would make a better town leader. ThirdKoopa plays like a newb and he's been mostly depending on other people's reads. Consensus followers aren't leaders. Leaders step up and lead, they don't wait to be anointed.

[Thirdkoopa]

I'm going to actually agree with Rift here. While I've been playing for a while, I'm rusty, I replaced in when this game had at least 2k posts, and a lot of stuff has been going over my head. Yeah, I've been playing together ISOing today, but I don't think I should be leading just because I'm the closest thing we've got right now.

Even if I did lead, I'd want you all to still have your own thoughts and opinions. The number one thing I hate is leading town and having town do nothing.

Fact is still, even if I was playing less rusty, there'd still need to be other thoughts, and I still shouldn't be leading.

Time to sit down and get some ISO's done. I'm going to still make more of a use of myself than sheeping on other suspicions.

[BROseidon]

I'd like to hear a case on Serene, honestly. I would also consider lynching jon or babyspice, given the new information that she may be godfather. I think a babyspice flip would also give us a lot of information and is less likely to be a mislynch.

Less likely than...