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Post Post #4500 (ISO) » Wed Aug 07, 2013 8:04 am

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And agreed with DOMO that TK is our most confirmed town. I think Dram is our lynch today and we need to discuss how we are going to sort out the Ank/BS situation, given the four possibilities of:

1) Ank telling truth and BS town
2) Ank telling truth and BS godfather
3) Ank lying and BS partner
4) Ank lying and BS town

I feel like 3 and 4 are less likely because we haven't had a counterclaim or claim of another investigative role. That said, the godfather idea isn't bad; BS hasn't been a strong townie at any point in the game, and coasting off a cop inno is a great strat for a gf.
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Post Post #4501 (ISO) » Wed Aug 07, 2013 8:16 am

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I found like, five interesting posts from Ank.
Five
. I've never been good at ISOing, but this game really isn't helping.
In post 108, Ankamius wrote:Alright, I'm going to treat hydras that don't sign posts as a single person.

Calcifer is town.
BROseidon is scum.
Nero is town.
TheIrishPope is town, but bad town.
KingCrabd is town.
Zdenek is town.

UNVOTE: Nero
VOTE: BROseidon
There's no inconsistencies, at least not yet, but I haven't noticed you saying much on Bro afterwards. Most of the others have flipped.
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In post 35, TheIrishPope wrote:
In post 34, BROseidon wrote: Also like TiP for town.
Good good.
VOTE: TIP
obvscum
This is the most likely post. I've self-voted before in response to attention as scum before, but the situations are different enough that I'm not really sure how this specifically would be applicable to it.
...What use does this here have?
In post 250, Ankamius wrote:Also, finally looked at Stevie. Scumread.

BROseidon is still my biggest scumread, though. Let's run him through.
I want more for you to back this up with. No, really. I mean, granted, I'll be ISOing him either today or tomorrow, but you say this with nothing else.
In post 277, Ankamius wrote:Or.

We could get a scumflip off of BROseidon today.

Then tomorrow, we nuke T S O or Stevie.

Sounds like a better plan to me.
Here's what I don't like in this post: Chaining lynches.
In post 4382, Ankamius wrote:VOTE: Dramonic

I see no way Dramonic is town here.
Yeah, I can agree up with that.

Now here's what I'm wondering. If timestamps are something, Ank had to have gotten his results before the scene. He posted literally two minutes after the scene - That's something to note. I don't exactly know how modding works around here (Speaking of which, I need to finish my game!)

And to top it all off
BROseidon wrote:And agreed with DOMO that TK is our most confirmed town. I think Dram is our lynch today and we need to discuss how we are going to sort out the Ank/BS situation, given the four possibilities of:

1) Ank telling truth and BS town
2) Ank telling truth and BS godfather
3) Ank lying and BS partner
4) Ank lying and BS town

I feel like 3 and 4 are less likely because we haven't had a counterclaim or claim of another investigative role. That said, the godfather idea isn't bad; BS hasn't been a strong townie at any point in the game, and coasting off a cop inno is a great strat for a gf.
Pretty much this. I'll wait until the massclaim to see what we come up with, but I feel that 1 and 2 are our most likely bets. Baby Spice better get in doing something. I say we consider it in our possibilities tomorrow.

Also, we're forgetting investgation immune SK but that pretty much falls under godfather.

Here's what I think of Ank in conclusion:

It's parroting everyone else, but I'm really gonna wait for the massclaim tomorrow. I see him as town because looking back, his bandwagon was kinda like Nero's. I do want him to post more even if he doesn't have too much to say, but I'll give him the benefit of doubt until a Baby Spice flip happens at least. I thought he was scum at first... and I do take some of that back, but I'm not sure with full confidence I can take all of that back. I think I can still take most. Mostly town for now.
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Post Post #4502 (ISO) » Wed Aug 07, 2013 8:34 am

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And now for a friendly game of “spot the scum”. I’m your host, cabd.
In post 4428, Baezu wrote:Honestly my vote today rests with Crabd because I still think he's the most likely scum out there

VOTE: KingCrabd
In post 4489, Baezu wrote:I'd like to hear a case on Serene, honestly. I would also consider lynching jon or babyspice, given the new information that she may be godfather. I think a babyspice flip would also give us a lot of information and is less likely to be a mislynch.
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Post Post #4503 (ISO) » Wed Aug 07, 2013 8:36 am

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In post 4443, Rift Adrift wrote:
In post 4368, KingCrabd wrote:Roleblocker. Crumb was here (also trolling nacho is fun)
In post 66, KingCrabd wrote:Raving Bisexual
Bulbafenix Night One
Shadi Night Two
Orcinus Night Three

Jon_61 next please.
Orcinus' heavy FoS of you made you think he was scum?
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Post Post #4504 (ISO) » Wed Aug 07, 2013 8:38 am

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In post 4503, KingCrabd wrote:
In post 4443, Rift Adrift wrote:
In post 4368, KingCrabd wrote:Roleblocker. Crumb was here (also trolling nacho is fun)
In post 66, KingCrabd wrote:Raving Bisexual
Bulbafenix Night One
Shadi Night Two
Orcinus Night Three

Jon_61 next please.
Orcinus' heavy FoS of you made you think he was scum?
Yes. Well, to be more specfic, I felt like he was pushing me to score the lynch on me, then the NK on you, to ride out until endgame. Either way, blocking him was a good way to get rid of the paranoia I had. Same as shadi. That little bit of hesitation in assigning him a town read went away, because shadi is shady enough that i feel like he's be the one making kills.
How many RB shots do you get?
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Post Post #4505 (ISO) » Wed Aug 07, 2013 8:58 am

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With all due respect, I'd rather not announce that yet.
For now, I think it is best to keep scum guessing.
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Post Post #4506 (ISO) » Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:06 am

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In post 4505, KingCrabd wrote:With all due respect, I'd rather not announce that yet.
For now, I think it is best to keep scum guessing.
That was one of two acceptable answers.
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Post Post #4507 (ISO) » Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:07 am

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Except for the with all due respect part. Those are fighting words.
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Post Post #4508 (ISO) » Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:08 am

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No response to 4502? And we both know the due respect part was a joke. I have to somehow even out all the love I give syr.
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Post Post #4509 (ISO) » Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:21 am

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In post 4508, KingCrabd wrote:No response to 4502? And we both know the due respect part was a joke. I have to somehow even out all the love I give syr.
vanilla town - http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=29631
vanilla town - http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=29901
scum - http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=28555

What is your opinion?
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Post Post #4510 (ISO) » Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:29 am

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Skim from work inconclusive, will want to cover that scumgame and look at trajectory, compare to the 180 in trajectory here, then cross-compare to trajectory in towngames.
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Post Post #4511 (ISO) » Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:39 am

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ThirdKoopa, what did you mean by "So I don't pull a day 3 again"?
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Post Post #4512 (ISO) » Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:40 am

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In post 4511, Baby Spice wrote:ThirdKoopa, what did you mean by "So I don't pull a day 3 again"?
uh

i probably don't remember by now unless you quote it for me

but if it was about how i was doing, it's probably because i did nothing that day
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Post Post #4513 (ISO) » Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:48 am

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Okay, I'm going to post some thoughts shortly.
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Post Post #4514 (ISO) » Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:50 am

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I dont have a limit on my bpness.
Ive answered the rest of your post already DOMO.
@Serene: You expect me to throw crumbs to the scum, really?
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Post Post #4515 (ISO) » Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:51 am

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Town:

Baby Spice
KingCrabd
DOMO
BROseidon
Thirdkoopa

Null:

Serene
Shadi1337
StubbsKVM
Rift Adrift

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dramonic
penguin_alien
Baezu
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Post Post #4516 (ISO) » Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:51 am

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Lynching Baby Spice for info is literally stupid.
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Post Post #4517 (ISO) » Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:53 am

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BTW I believe Crabd's claim.
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Post Post #4518 (ISO) » Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:57 am

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In post 4517, Ankamius wrote:BTW I believe Crabd's claim.
I believe he's an RB. I have concerns about his alignment but that's for another game day.
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Post Post #4519 (ISO) » Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:58 am

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I'm willing to let those concerns pass for the moment. We're not at the point where worrying about that should be a significant issue yet.

I'm more sure he's a town roleblocker than scum roleblocker either way.
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Post Post #4520 (ISO) » Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:05 am

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In post 4519, Ankamius wrote:I'm willing to let those concerns pass for the moment. We're not at the point where worrying about that should be a significant issue yet.

I'm more sure he's a town roleblocker than scum roleblocker either way.
It's quite significant. With orcinus dying N3 and a kill missing, several of my reads are reset to null.
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Post Post #4521 (ISO) » Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:06 am

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In post 4514, dramonic wrote:I dont have a limit on my bpness.
uh...

...uh....

...uh...

WHAT.
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Post Post #4522 (ISO) » Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:24 am

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No really, WHAT. Okay, yeah, that pretty much sets me in on lynching Dram for today. I didn't even think the claim was serious to begin with.

And as for other possibilities from a missing kill, I think the massclaim may have something in there, maybe.

I'll do more ISOing later today or tomorrow if I've got the time.
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Post Post #4523 (ISO) » Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:33 am

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In post 4512, Thirdkoopa wrote:
In post 4511, Baby Spice wrote:ThirdKoopa, what did you mean by "So I don't pull a day 3 again"?
uh

i probably don't remember by now unless you quote it for me

but if it was about how i was doing, it's probably because i did nothing that day
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In post 4478, Thirdkoopa wrote: I do also want to know because I want to have an idea how much time we have left so I don't pull a Night 3 again.
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Post Post #4524 (ISO) » Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:42 am

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oh OKAY. That.

Basically so I have time to get all my thoughts out instead of doing what I did last time and doing something last minute. We have until the 20th at latest. The
20th
. I have all the time to do fancy ISO's, catch up more, do some bandwagon analysis, and talk to some peeps.

Though I've got my lynch already today. I don't know about the rest of you, but fuck BP claims are terrible, full BP's worse.
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