Mini 1478 ~ Mafia Xenologue (Game Over!)

[Daemon385]

A quick assesment of what I think of this game so far? We are lynching WAY to fast. I was trying to get more info on the D1 lynch guy cause he had way to many people on him to fast in my opinion. Though, when I went to sleep that night hoping I'd still have time to go in deeper to see where I wanted the vote, next thing I know he is dead and day ends. I think we are being way to brash. Idk why Sakura is being voted for, but again I am reading back through. Saki seems a better target then Sakura. At least that makes sense. Anyways still working on my wall

[morph the cat]

GRANPA'S STILL ALIVE

You still around?

[Andrius]

I'll be in tomorrow, got a ton of reading up to do for something else. >_>

[Purpkin]

GRANPA'S STILL ALIVE

Syry

please tell me Nacho was trolling when he stated that you guys are slated to die at the end of the day

[Oil Tycoons]

Sorry, we're still dead.

Emptierce, those questions you asked..

1) What's your current read on the Purpkin slot?

Town as fuck.

2) I can get behind your townread on Donald Fagen's wonderful 2006 solo album but I don't think I really buy the Andrius town-read. His hammer and subsequent reaction to it seem way too easy for a player of his competence to fake. Is there anything else in his posts that make you think he's town or is that it? There's something I want to ask Tierce about that's very largely meta-based though.

I'm not sure exactly why Nacho thinks Andrius is town, but for me he's in my "town as fuck" block. Can't really get into details, but suffice it to say this looks way too natural (content and tone) to be his scumgame.

Current scum:
Sakura Hana
Prohawk
Daemon

Obvscumteam, kill it with le fire.

[Saki]

i just feel like I did something horrible

[Vi]

~Vote Count VII:

Lilina

Saki (2) ~

(Purpkin,)

Andrius, Debonair Danny DiPietro
Sakura Hana (2) ~ Oil Tycoons, Saki
DTMaster (1) ~ Sakura Hana
morph the cat (1) ~ ProHawk

Not Voting:

Daemon385, Lady Lambdadelta, morph the cat, DTMaster, Jabberwock, Purpkin

--With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

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[Sakura Hana]

Everyone just went silent!
@Nacho/Syry do you have any questions for me?

[Oil Tycoons]

Everyone just went silent!
@Nacho/Syry do you have any questions for me?

Who are your partners?

[Sakura Hana]

DTM and Morph

Is that all you going to ask?

[Jabberwock]

Pretty boring answers from where I'm standing, Messieurs Tycoon.

We actually think Sakura is Town. But Post 465 was not written by someone with a Town wincon.

VOTE: Saki

[Oil Tycoons]

DTM and Morph

Is that all you going to ask?

Pretty much.

Pretty boring answers from where I'm standing, Messieurs Tycoon.

We actually think Sakura is Town. But Post 465 was not written by someone with a Town wincon.

VOTE: Saki

What in the name of seven fucks has Sakura as a townread for you two?

[Oil Tycoons]

GRANPA'S STILL ALIVE

You still around?

FERY

I KNOW YOU'RE THERE

GET IN HERE

[morph the cat]

GRANPA'S STILL ALIVE

You still around?

FERY

I KNOW YOU'RE THERE

GET IN HERE

I CAN'T BE TWO PLACES AT ONCE.

[Jabberwock]

What in the name of seven fucks has Sakura as a townread for you two?

Sakura's reaction to the lynch. We feel she would have been more awkward around it (see Monsieur Daemon385 for the ideal of scummy posturing beauty) if she were scum. Plus, the interaction with Saki--especially Saki's 465; they are not scum together.

[Oil Tycoons]

Sakura Hana: The reason I asked about #353 is that I saw that post as a potential towntell -- I don't think Sakura would have voiced approval of the TIP mislynch after the fact and that it's far more likely she would have said she didn't know/had no opinion (easy to fake considering she didn't even post during the Day 1) or would have tried to distance herself from it in some other way.

This? srs? Considering I came in right after the lynch and voiced my support it's not exactly unimaginable she did the same thing. You're really ignoring all the bloody scumtells in favor of a nulltell? Like the fact she can't come up with a single read, or that she has no comment on anything or anybody? The fencesitting? No?

PEDIT - YOU CAN TOO STOP BEING LAZY

Pedit2: no kidding they aren't scum together, hence Saki-VI and Sakura-scum. You were in bloody 501, you really think this is her townplay?

[Sakura Hana]

It is awkward to come in after reading D1 without getting to post just because day ended early, and expect me to have reads right off the bat without interacting with people.

[Oil Tycoons]

It is awkward to come in after reading D1 without getting to post just because day ended early, and expect me to have reads right off the bat without interacting with people.

Except you're not interacting with people. You're reacting to people.

[Oil Tycoons]

It is awkward to come in after reading D1 without getting to post just because day ended early, and expect me to have reads right off the bat without interacting with people.

Except you're not interacting with people. You're reacting to people.

In fact your entire ISO has exactly zero posts in which you make a remote attempt to determine someone's alignment.

[morph the cat]

It is awkward to come in after reading D1 without getting to post just because day ended early, and expect me to have reads right off the bat without interacting with people.

You haven't really been pushing much for interactions.

p-edit let me post

[Sakura Hana]

It is awkward to come in after reading D1 without getting to post just because day ended early, and expect me to have reads right off the bat without interacting with people.

Except you're not interacting with people. You're reacting to people.

In fact your entire ISO has exactly zero posts in which you make a remote attempt to determine someone's alignment.

My entire ISO has been answering questions because that's all people been doing =/

[Oil Tycoons]

Trololololol

You've been so busy answering questions you can't come up with your own?

[Jabberwock]

Sakura Hana: The reason I asked about #353 is that I saw that post as a potential towntell -- I don't think Sakura would have voiced approval of the TIP mislynch after the fact and that it's far more likely she would have said she didn't know/had no opinion (easy to fake considering she didn't even post during the Day 1) or would have tried to distance herself from it in some other way.

This? srs? Considering I came in right after the lynch and voiced my support it's not exactly unimaginable she did the same thing. You're really ignoring all the bloody scumtells in favor of a nulltell? Like the fact she can't come up with a single read, or that she has no comment on anything or anybody? The fencesitting? No?

no kidding they aren't scum together, hence Saki-VI and Sakura-scum. You were in bloody 501, you really think this is her townplay?

You came in after the lynch and voiced your support

pre

-flip. She did it after, and she's much less experienced than you. As for not providing any decent amount of reads, granted, but it's not like she bothers to do so in any case, she's a young little lamb; go read Open 501 again. (And that is a game I would be wary of when using it to meta someone and so should you, because we had confirmation bias on alignments.) Now, seriously--go read Post 465. That post is absurd. Saki is asking ProHawk to trust Sakura Hana's meta Townread on her. Saki is scumreading Sakura Hana at that point. No matter how good Sakura Hana is at reading Saki, that is not the train of thought of a Town player--to ask someone else to trust

your scumread's read

on you. There's a logical leap there that does not make sense if Saki is Town.

(FWIW, I don't think 465 speaks to ProHawk's alignment, and it is weird that Saki appeals to ProHawk in particular and disregards others when asking him to trust Sakura Hana's meta read.)

[Sakura Hana]

I still would think Saki's town, but the thing is, he could be changing his scum meta to fit with his town meta. But that wouldn't make any sense because then he would start getting lynched all the time since his town meta appears more scummy than his scum meta. This is why I think Saki's town this game.

[Jabberwock]

I still would think Saki's town, but the thing is, he could be changing his scum meta to fit with his town meta. But that wouldn't make any sense because then he would start getting lynched all the time since his town meta appears more scummy than his scum meta. This is why I think Saki's town this game.

Uh, no?Thing is, point the first, your metaread isn't all that correct. Point the second, even if he prefers playing scum, the majority of his games are Town, so if he wants to play to win and not get lynched, he has to improve his Town game and start scumhunting; the excuse that "being lazy is his Town meta" really doesn't fly and you should stop using it as a pass. Point the third, when you say being lazy is his Town meta,

what do you think he's going to do in his scum games

?