Mini 1478 ~ Mafia Xenologue (Game Over!)

[Sakura Hana]

No i was more concerned at you contradicting yourself.

[Saki]

No i was more concerned at you contradicting yourself.

who'd buy that excuse.

[Purpkin]

Saki, instead of arguing with a scum-read, how about you try and convince others why you think Sakura is scum instead?

and Nacho, I guess not and, at some point I need to accept reality for what it is?

but, it's more along the lines that Bork and I both believe that we aren't going to be alive for to long after the two of you die.

how sure are you on Jabbers town? because I think I'm getting town-vibes from Empire posts (or what I think are empire posts) but not so much from Tierce. There are a few posts from her that I like, but I am, for the most part ambivalent and I don't think I like how she attacked TIP, by defending us while being fency on Cabd.

Sakura, I'm still waiting. Why don't you ask your own questions for a change? or maybe even comment on the game-state? I've yet to get that really, really nice warm feeling I usually get from you and I don't like it.

why are you asking for reads while not giving any of your own?

DDD, Welcome, and I would love to play with you again. I forgot to greet you because I was so busy scum-hunting?

yeah, lets go with that....

though, what's wrong with my 161?

I think I get a town-vibe from you so far

[Saki]

Saki, instead of arguing with a scum-read, how about you try and convince others why you think Sakura is scum instead?

i figured if i put my case in a post people would take it at face value

[Sakura Hana]

why are you asking for reads while not giving any of your own?

For the third time.

My town reads are Lady Lambadelta, Jaberwock, Oil Tycoons. Null-town DTM, Null-Scum Saki.

I feel like i'm just talking to a wall here.

[Jabberwock]

Ok so it feels like there's been a bit of stuff posted and I'm a little pressed for time at the moment so here's a nice little catch-up post for now. To be honest, I glazed over the Sakura-Saki stuff over the last few pages so I'll give it a deeper look when I get back.

*cracks knuckles*

Jabberwock's town, you're town, Lady's town, Sak's null leaning scum, DTM's null leaning scum, everyone else's null.

Wait, how is Saki null-leaning-scum for you after you've spent all this time talking about how his play so resembles his town meta? What made you change your mind?

You know I think I’ve made arguments like this far more as scum than I have as town because the “haha reaction test” backpedal has basically no correlation with scum in my book but it certainly sounds good.

Your experience is way different from mine, then. From what I've seen, it tends to be a go-to excuse for scum when called out on something that doesn't make sense or sounds like bullshit. Thing is, at least with this head re: LLD at the time, I misread the sequence of events and I missed #112 which came before she was called out by my other head.

Too much Empire posting, probably scum.

WOW Nacho, you fucker, I thought you loved me. </3

You see a towntell where I see a scumtell... commenting on the lynch after the fact is completely useless and is usually just empty content; mbf did it when we lynched TiP in Duck Duck Goose and it was scummy as fuck then, it's scummy as fuck now. And there's nothing about the opinion itself that can be criticized: are you gonna yell at her for agreeing with a lynch when there's an entire majority on the wagon otherwise?

I get the argument that it's empty content in that it's just commenting on past events but see, this is the issue: when I first read the post, I basically found myself in the situation where I had to figure out if she was either, (1) scum trying to conform/fit in, or (2) town trying to be as transparent as possible and I still think the latter is more likely. I'll check out the Duck Duck Goose game later today when I have more time but my reaction was, well, why would Sakura!scum want to attach herself to a speed mislynch wagon after the fact? My other head pointed out what I'd expect scum to say when she spoke about Daemon's #500 - the kind of lame posturing trying to distance himself from the lynch. Sakura's reaction just feels different and I don't think she's going for a credibility grab by approving the mislynch after the fact; if anything, I think she realizes that posting something like that as scum has the potential to make her look bad.

Also, reminder to self so I don't forget again: meta Andrius and Saki.

[Sakura Hana]

P-Edit x2: OH WAIT! I think i get what you mean now.

This is when I realized what you were talking about. See the post right after too

I was focusing at Saki's gameplay so much that I didnt realize you were referring to that one action, even tho you mentioned it multiple times... sorry about that.

Then i got a null-scum read on Saki.

[Saki]

my games are on the wiki ~

[Vi]

~Vote Count VIII:

Marth

Saki (5) ~ Andrius, Debonair Danny DiPietro, Jabberwock, Sakura Hana, Lady Lambdadelta
Sakura Hana (2) ~ Oil Tycoons,

(Saki,)

Saki
morph the cat (1) ~ ProHawk

DTMaster (0) ~

(Sakura Hana)

Not Voting:

Daemon385,

(Lady Lambdadelta,)

morph the cat, DTMaster,

(Jabberwock,)

Purpkin,

(Saki)

--With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

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(85%)

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[morph the cat]

Although we both wonder how well cabd can read prohawk and we'd be appreciative if you could clear that up for us.

I can't read prohawk for shit until a few days have gone by usually. Also, our hydra game was a scumgame, so my reads there were all faked. (And well faked if I do say so myself) The "Cabd: Arceus of Meta" thing is something I developed here and is very different from my approach to the game on our shared home site (Sixprizes)

He does have a history of reading me incorrectly, however, so the lack of being able to read the other thing is mutual.

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

Right, need to do this...

UNVOTE:

[morph the cat]

6) morph the cat (Cabd + fferyllt)
town. but ive heard town ffery shoots town lazers from her eyes
i'd like to see that

Do you know what the town lasers are in reference to?

[Oil Tycoons]

~Vote Count VIII: Marth

YES THIS IS ME
<3 VI

[morph the cat]

~Vote Count VIII: Marth

YES THIS IS ME
<3 VI

Oh, so you're the guy marth. Lame.

[Saki]

6) morph the cat (Cabd + fferyllt)
town. but ive heard town ffery shoots town lazers from her eyes
i'd like to see that

Do you know what the town lasers are in reference to?

lol
nope
hehe.

[morph the cat]

Here's the post. There are links to two of my posts in the first line. It's about a meta dive I did in a game a couple of months ago.

Not all that impressive as far as in-thread laser-eyes go, but it was one of the best meta-troves I've found playing at MS.

[Saki]

Lol

[Vi]

~Vote Count IX:

A handy guide to FE13 characters

Saki (4) ~ Andrius,

(Debonair Danny DiPietro,)

Jabberwock, Sakura Hana, Lady Lambdadelta
Sakura Hana (2) ~ Oil Tycoons, Saki
morph the cat (1) ~ ProHawk

Not Voting:

Daemon385, morph the cat, DTMaster, Purpkin, Debonair Danny DiPietro

-ProHawk and DTMaster are being prodded...

--With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

---I should have posted this picture a while ago.

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(76%)

18

[ProHawk]

I don't need to step up shit, I'm practically a scumhunting god at this point.

Your read on me speaks to the contrary, but I suppose this is more of a post-game discussion more than anything.

There was no attempt at you trying to figure out if TIP was scum or town, it was "oh, you failed to do this thing you normally do as town, you are auto-scum".

It was a meta read. I'm assuming you know how Cabd treats his metareads considering your hydra with him, no?

The Cat Hydra already pointed this out... but. The game I played with Cabd was full of meta to acquire mis-lynches, and it worked flawlessly. Unless Town-Cabd is a moron, he will use more than just meta to drive someone into the ground because I know he knows that meta-alone is more of a miss than a hit when it comes to accuracy. Which only speaks to the way he uses it to attain mis-lynches. Not to mention this whole business of tossing me aside because he claims I always scum-read him is a farce.

Sakura, can you elaborate on this?

I was focusing at Saki's gameplay so much that I didnt realize you were referring to that one action, even tho you mentioned it multiple times... sorry about that.

What was that action that made you change your read and what about it made you change?

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

So yeah, I have basically no interest in a Saki lynch. On the other hand I have lots of interest in this.

DO YOU THINK I AM SCUM FOR THAT HAMMER OR NOT?

Yes.

VOTE: Andrius

[Andrius]

DEAR LLD,

You make me sad. We were going to have a nice tea time chat and then you didn't show up. ;_;

</3,

-Andy

[Andrius]

Empire

(Psst, it was me, Empire, not Tierce. Every single post on this last page has been me.)

Ok. Changes nothing of what I just said but w/e.

Natirasha: Up until the fake dayvig, I wasn't a big fan of his ISO because it included a lot of setup/mechanics spec and very little in the way of actual reads or proactive scumhunting.

This makes sense.

However, I actually really liked his reaction to the dayvig

I just don't see it, as you know.

As for #350, I just don't get any TOWNVIBES from it save the last part. Nothing to reverse my read.

Agree that DTM is town.

Andrius - Derphammer. Under observation. Maybe not giving his scum game enough credit

hahahahahaha

LLD - Cabd is bothered a little, not sure why. ffery is mostly convinced by Empire meta report. Meta dive to come.

Convinced of..?

Need to look at prohawk because that's two posters in a row that think he's leaning scum and I just haven't gotten GREATVIBES one way or another.

What do you think about my vote Andrius? I noticed you quoted my post about The Cat but failed to comment on it.

Don't remember off the top of my head. I'll come back to this.

Andy, you have anything worth adding to the game? I think you are likely town, care to elaborate a liiiiiittle bit more on your reads?

...I am adding things to the game, besides hammers.
What reads do you want sorted out and I'll do it.
But don't expect me to PARAGRAPHS for EVERYONE because that's just not my style unless we get srs bsns.

I'm here, now I need to read the game; see you tomorrow.

Its been a loooooong time, DDD.

Don't exactly like Daemon's recent sting of posting about LETS NOT SPEED THIS UP as it allows him to talk bout things but not really add reads? Does that make sense?

Current scum:
Sakura Hana

Why?

I get the jist of the PROHAWK and DAEMON cases but want to hear from you on her.
Assuming it is a her.

Pretty boring answers from where I'm standing, Messieurs Tycoon.

We actually think Sakura is Town. But Post 465 was not written by someone with a Town wincon.

VOTE: Saki

This too.

Does anyone want to see the Saki case because I'll fucking write a nice concise (read: less than a paragraph) on it.

Hmm. Could DTM be a scum roleblocker?

If that's true then the whole more reason you're scumbuddy with him due to him wanting to clear you as town.
^
Also replies DTM's question.

As for Lady, not any specific content, more like because of her ammount of content, i'd think scum would be more lazy, like the person above me

This was a beautiful exchange.
DTM still town.
Saki still scum.

You don't trust my meta on them?

Oh.
Uh.
That wasn't for you.
That was for LLD.
Ofc I trust you I just wish you'd talk to me more but I know there are other pretty girls out there so I'll just sit here and be here when you're ready to talk to me.

Saki

1) Andrius
town, he lynched tip

That's all?
It took seven people to lynch him and all I did was accidentially drop the hammer.

2) Daemon385
null, been a while since he posted

False it has not.
Try again.

3) DTMaster
town until proven scum

You just said he was scum a page or so ago.
Why the reversal?

so you say andrius and I are town (heck you everyone as town except daemon who's null), and we're scum team? that makes perfect sense /sarcasm.

I'm happy with my vote on you

This. lol

why not say 'omg saki your readslist is bs, you call everyone town and shout out three random players for scumteam'
but say 'you said we were town but you also said we were scum'?

VOTE: Sakura Hana
i want andrius's feedback on this

on what
you calling people town
and then calling them scum
?

yeah that's bad dude sorry
try again
make a new wall with the people you think are scum labeled SCUM and not TOWN
clarity is town

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So yeah, I have basically no interest in a Saki lynch. On the other hand I have lots of interest in this.

DO YOU THINK I AM SCUM FOR THAT HAMMER OR NOT?

Yes.

VOTE: Andrius

Let me guess:
Scum_Andy drops the hammer D1 to just get things going and expecting his smooth-talking abilities to work his way out of the fire D2?

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TOWN
purpkin
jabberwock
ffcabdy
DTM
prohawk
...
sakura hana

DEAD AND GONE
oil tycoons

SCUM
saki
natirasha
daemon


p.s.
Dear ProHawk. I looked in my ISO for some mention of this vote thing you talked about but I found three instances of your name and they weren't in regards to a vote so if you could clarify that'd be great.

p.p.s. Been feeling better about Sakura but the lack of reads STILL bothers me.

[Andrius]

Things I want to see:

REVISED List of reads from Saki
List of reads from Daemon
updated list of reads from Sakura

RESPONSE TO TEA TIME WITH LLD
PLS WOMAN
YOU WANTED THIS FROM ME AND NOW THAT IM HERE YOURE LIKE TEEHEE NO

[Andrius]

also stahp with the FE13 pictures there ARE other games in the series that are amazing too!

[Sakura Hana]

also stahp with the FE13 pictures there ARE other games in the series that are amazing too!

QFT.

Also, You said you wanted an updated list of reads from me, but havent I posted that 3 times today?
well that latest is not entirely up to date but there are minor differences such as you starting to lean a bit town and Saki being down into scum territory rather than just leaning.

I don't get DDD's accusation either.

Are there any reads you haven't mentioned yet?