Open 514: Monks and Masons in Serona - GAME OVER

[Malakittens]

her*

Damn it, why do I never get this shit right!!

[RachMarie]

why do you think her partner is Digi Who did Digi replace again?

[Malakittens]

Marquis.

[fferyllt]

29th Vote Count (2nd of Day 3)

Sakura Hana - 1 (Saki) - L-3
Saki - 1 (TheIrishPope) - L-3

Not voting: malakittens, RachMarie, Sakura Hana, DrCirno, diginova

With 7 alive, it takes 4 votes to lynch.

Mod Notes:

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Deadline August 14, 11:59 PM US Eastern Time (GMT-4)

Nightfall is in (expired on 2013-08-18 20:59:00)

[Sakura Hana]

VOTE: diginova
Time to start getting involved!

[Malakittens]

VOTE: diginova
Time to start getting involved!

Didn't you just call me mafia during Day 2?.. Now you are 'okay' with sheeping my word?

[TheIrishPope]

ikr? Hana if you're Town, I'm sorry, but...
VOTE: Hana
L-2 for those at home

[Saki]

Sakura's mafia, not a ww
>_>
welp
screw it
i guess ill settle for a lynch on mafia

[TheIrishPope]

I urge people to vote the scuuuuum

[diginova]

Sorry about being so useless up until now. Trying to get through D1 kept killing all of my drive to read the thread, combined with work.
Those are excuses, though, so here are my reads.

Saki's quickhammer D2 was horrible and he was pushing another quickhammer in the first page of D2. He tries to post so much fluff that people will assume he's town, but it serves to just drag the game and hide actual information. He tried extending RVS in 301 and 304, but then calls people out on the same. He seems oddly defensive to any accusation, especially his 474.
His's 1425 is absolutely horrible:

after notscience I don't like wisdom and sakura
but sticking votes on either would be hypocritical
UNVOTE:

He unvotes because voting would be hypocritical and, according to him, a strong scumtell. Why would town ever worry before they post if they make a scumtell? They aren't trying to hide anything, and, in fact, putting votes down is the only way we can find actual scum.

Sakura's insistence on the article early-game reeks of trying to get towncred, and the only people who need to actively try to get towncred are scum - her "it's just like being an IC" is a horrible explanation.
Her interaction with Wisdom seems really scummy. Her immediate "Replace me because Wisdom came in" seems to be entirely an AtE, and the posts afterwards back it up. If it was specifically because Wisdom was tunneling her, why didn't she do the same when Saki was tunneling her earlier? Her self-meta in 1237 is also towncred fishing - why rely on meta instead of how you're acting currently unless you have something to hide?
She thought Wisdom was town, but then her 1857 summary:

Scum hardtunneled me and almost made me replace out of frustration.

She seemed to try milking her AtE for all it was worth, even throwing in an absolutely horrible self-vote in 1723. Her 2814 is terribad: "Saki's def. not wolf, if Saki was wolf he'd have shot me already because he thinks I'm mafia."

TheIrishPope is leaning scum. His 2708 is absolutely horrible:

lolwut
Saki I know you're crazy and all but what is this vote
It's like me saying
VOTE: notscience
Because lawl

His "joking" vote on ns (which he confirmed two posts later, by the way) is based on zero reasoning at all. He didn't give any reason at all for his Mara vote in 2455 or his goodmorning vote in 2780 either, and that put both of them to L-1. He seems to rely on anyone else to make a case for him instead of thinking for himself, always having another person to fall back on if he gets called out for it.

I'm amazed Malakittens is still alive, personally. I don't see how she is obviously scum like most of you believe, though - she reads null to me. Her 2664 seems genuine.

Rach reads more town for me. Her defensiveness of not wanting to expose the masons followed closely by exposing them based on a single post by Wisdom was weird, but it's a gambit that wouldn't pay off as scum - if she was a mafia monk and died, it would just confirm Mala as town, which the mafia don't want to do.

What DrCirno has seems town. Her accidental monk claim was weird, but seems genuine and she seems to be pushing reads.

Other notes:
- Sakura's D1 scumreads were unerringly all town.
- Saki's OMGUS in 2368: Really? On page 95?

VOTE: Saki
I'm also tempted to vote Sakura, but L-1 this early is a little excessive with the quickhammer-happy players around here. I'd have to re-ISO her before placing a vote there.

[diginova]

...that was a larger wall than I expected.
Sorry about that, but that's what you get for pushing the game to 2800 posts.

[Sakura Hana]

VOTE: diginova
Time to start getting involved!

Didn't you just call me mafia during Day 2?.. Now you are 'okay' with sheeping my word?

As i said there's only 1 town among you 4 imo, and you could still be opposing teams.

[Malakittens]

Hey guys. Attention over here grasshoppers!!

@Sak:

The
Thing that worries 'bout you is how easily
You are willing to sheep that read that I have.

It pinged my radar.

[Sakura Hana]

I agreed that diginova hadn't done much, until I voted him that is

[Malakittens]

I agreed that diginova hadn't done much, until I voted him that is

No, what you agreed to is that I thought GM's partner is likely her and not for being useless.

I do find it odd she caught up after people started talking about her.

[Sakura Hana]

i agreed, he was scum, not which scum group was he in. I think?

[TheIrishPope]

More activityyyy kthx

[Saki]

Town

Saki
Malakittens
DrCirno
notscience

Mafia

Sakura Hana
TheIrishPope

Werewolf

diginova

yeeeheee.

[TheIrishPope]

Me? Scum with Sakura? Extreme bussing right here bro

[Saki]

Me? Scum with Sakura? Extreme bussing right here bro

Always possible.


Sheep me to victory, we get Sakura first

[RachMarie]

Since gm flipped WW, I am a bit more sure of my townish read on Mala because I would think having 2 scum amongst the PRs in this game (Mason, Monk) would be rather unbalanced. I know with random neighbors when you have 4 only one is likely to be scum.

[RachMarie]

Umm Digi

Sakura is at L-3 why did you say she is at L-1 ?

[Saki]

Town

Saki
Malakittens
DrCirno
notscience

Mafia

Sakura Hana
TheIrishPope

Werewolf

diginova

yeeeheee.

Rach, you don't have problems with this?

Everyone else, you don't have problems with this?

I spot like three major problems

[Sakura Hana]

Problem 1: You put yourself in your reads list.
Problem 2: You didnt explain your reads.
Problem 3: I don't see how you're reading both TIP and me as scumteam.
Problem 4: notscience is already dead.
Problem 5: Rach isn't there.

Do I need to go on?

[Saki]

Well, thank you for answering.

thank you for having problems with it

why didn't cirno
why didn't rach notice them
why didn't tip notice them
why didn't diginova notice them
why didn't mala notice them
why did you look for problems only after i asked for them