Newbie 1381 Oakhaven is Overrun Game Over

[jmo16mla]

Nacho, I suggest you post.

[jmo16mla]

Really?

[Nobody Special]

Votecount 4.03

(unchanged)

Nachomamma8 - 1 - Tamuz
Tamuz - 1 - Nachomamma8

Not Voting: jmo16mla


with 3 playing its 2 to lynch.


Deadline is in (expired on 2013-08-14 06:49:27)

V/LA: Tamuz, through Sunday August 11

[jmo16mla]

Don't you post a vote count in that tone of voice to me Mr.

[Tamuz]

I'm back and literally the only comment I have is "Hello Nacho!".

So, Hello Nacho.

[jmo16mla]

This game is getting insanely annoying.

[jmo16mla]

Tamuz, why did you try to buss TIP early yesterdy, but never voted him until his death was imminent?

The more I read back on it, there was an insane amount of comfort between you two talking yesterdy.

[Tamuz]

I did not try to bus TIP. I attacked TIP based on some things I found scummy.

The manner and explanations involved in N64 and Gen_Wolf's votes on TIP did not sit right with me so I attempted to voice why they bothered me and tried to get explanations from their originators.

I did not vote early because we were in LYLO and I did not confident to vote.

I didn't vote right after Gen_Wolf's failed hammer because I wanted to explore things.

I voted before deadline because I was fine with TIP being the lynch, even if Gen_Wolf would give the town a better chance to win.

Scumhunting is not scummy.

As to comfort, I don't follow.

[RachMarie]

Nachomamma8 has been prodded with the ol Cattle Prod.

[jmo16mla]

Then why the unvote?

So you and I can't speedhammer, duh?

Seen here

[jmo16mla]

I'm voting gen.

Well I'll be damned. It appears you are.

You're gonna have a rough time on your SAT reading comprehension this way.

Your wiki says you are 16. NSATs sure, but big boy SATS/ACTS are around 17

And so it does. Tamuz, you are too smart for me.

Now convince jmo into hammering Gen so we can take this scum win for ourselves, eh?

This.

[jmo16mla]

Now convince jmo into hammering Gen so we can take this scum win for ourselves, eh?

Tamuz, exactly what do you feel TIP meant by saying this?

[jmo16mla]

This is incredibly poor sportsmanship.

AtE

[Tamuz]

If you didn't realize since you and TIP twinposted like the biggest assholes in the world in response to my post in 875, I've derided everyone a bunch in this game.

991 is me making fun of TIP, note the 'duh'. 1036 is me also making fun of TIP, attacking his intelligence, also note post 1042 where NS basically asks that I stop being a dick.

Post 1040 is TIP calling the union of himself and me 'we' and appealing to me directly as his scum partner/make it look like there is day-scum communication in thread wasn't novel. I ignored it there because I addressed it the first time I noticed it, here
Post 1022.

I respond by calling him an asshole and actually put my reasoning down in this post.

[Post 1022] is a blatant positioning post to help a mislynch on me tomorrow. What do you think I'm calling you an asshole for? Like I said, I don't see a town win coming from lynching you today regardless of alignment. If you're town we lose. If you're scum it looks like a townie can be convinced TIP Tamuz scum team is a real thing and you have been working framing posts like the that one to support it. The last one is just beyond stupidly obvious.

You'll notice he keeps doing this, calling him and I 'we' or 'us' and then his 'Win this for us Tamuz' Lynch-post continues it.

So I don't think he's saying anything, he's just pushing the same agenda that he thought would work; getting some stupid townie to think we're on the same team. Sadly I agree with him that this town did not have the means to put 2-2 together which is why I really preferred the Gen_Wolf lynch yesterday.

AtE

What is the appeal? What is the emotion?

[Nachomamma8]

if you ever see talking to myself i'm just
trying to think of the words i have to say to you

[Tamuz]

Posted from my Iphone

[Nachomamma8]

I like the way Malakittens handled the Luigi vote and Jmo'a subsequent questioning.

First post this slot has made in the game!

Okay now the stuff over into pages 3 and 4 I pretty much agree with what everyone saw was wrong with luigiwise opportunist vote.
Role is now Tala. Have to see who that plays out meanwhile....

I don't like how this predecessor starts out in his catchup planning immediately to tunnel the fuck out of the talah slot, especially with the following post in mind:

Lol this is just so fucking lol.

(in response to talah's vote on malakittens)
fropome claims a strong town read and proceeds to tunnel the fuck out of one of her attackers pretty much immediately without much on the thought process on either the townmala read (i know her!) or the scum talah read.

Tunneling, no other defined reads outside of his one of Thane (now Gen?). In general this is bad, but for an IC, you are really teaching these newbies nothing. Leaning scum

I am willing to hammer (if he is at L1 I have no idea) in a few hours once he claims.

This is a horrible hop in general. You didn't figure into his reads at all, but suddenly when you're good to be hammered, Hyperion appears. He also didn't have even the slightest interest in anything other than writing down reads (not trying to form or double check), which suggests scum.

Oh and you're going 120mph to bus TIP. Its a good play. TIP's lynch vote yesterday was bad, but it allows for his partner to bus him hard and the down goes into lylo/mylo with very little info and a bunch of flack flying around.

I'm not a fan of the "you're bussing TiP" dance that Tamuz has been orchestrating for pretty much this entire day, especially after TiP's flip. The thought process between "jmo is bussing the fuck out of TiP" and this:

How do my actions make any sense as his partner?

Not my votes, my actions.

So while settling for a TIP lynch today is ok, I don't think it will win the town the game because of all of the TIP and Tamuz scumteam sentiment.

Tamuz is happy to talk and talk and talk about JMO bussing TiP, but when Tamuz is suspected of being a partner, he's extremely concerned of talking about why he's partnered with TiP and how "town can't win the game if they believe us partners", which is blatant AtE.

lol.

jmo do you need to hear me expound on anything or shall I engage the crossposts?

why would there be any reason why you would need jmo's permission to vote confirmed scum...?

I'm no Freudian, but might one call that a Fox Paw?

I really really hope that this isn't serious.

jmo. Do you think I am mafia?

Reading the run up to tip's wagon and then the ease off do you believe my actions are consistent of scum? Reading after it, do you believe my verbal exploration is consistent of scum? Do you think Gen's avoidance to explain his actions, opting instead to whine and bring up out-of game information is consistent of town?

jmo. Do you think I am mafia?

Reading the run up to tip's wagon and then the ease off do you believe my actions are consistent of scum? Reading after it, do you believe my verbal exploration is consistent of scum? Do you think Gen's avoidance to explain his actions, opting instead to whine and bring up out-of game information is consistent of town?

I hate to say this, but you are the hold up here and you aren't introducing any avenues of discussion. If you really want Gen or I to say something YOU might have to put a card down and say "POST X is alignment Y'ey because of reason Z'.

TBH you're really bad at dialogue, which hurts activity in games when Gen and I have made our peace.

You're acting like you expect him to completely change his playstyle in order to facilitate discussion and urging him to hammer quicker if he can't adapt to the condition you know he's not going to meet, and rushing a hammer in this situation is scummy as fuck.

[jmo16mla]

Shit would be so much easier if i could iso both of you.. too bad you each have 10 replacements.

[Tamuz]

I'm not a fan of the "you're bussing TiP" dance that Tamuz has been orchestrating for pretty much this entire day, especially after TiP's flip.

The entire day? You cite post 827 as you're argument and skip to post 1123. Just ignore that in post 878 I state

JMO is being a king douche, but the numbers don't think he is scum.

And then I don't talk about jmo bussing TIP ever again. Methinks you're ignoring 300 game posts to fit to your argument, but ignoring a bunch of posts and using the word entire is a complete misrep.

Tamuz is happy to talk and talk and talk about JMO bussing TiP, but when Tamuz is suspected of being a partner, he's extremely concerned of talking about why he's partnered with TiP and how "town can't win the game if they believe us partners", which is blatant AtE.

One post that translates to "Explain your thought, does it make sense?" is extreme concern? This sounds like a misrep to fit an argument too.

And now lets look at "town can't win the game...". I don't say that. I say I don't think it is the better move. This is you changing the word I say, which has completely different connotations. I'm not saying lynch TIP and we lose, I'm saying I thought, and still think, lynching TIP yesterday was a worse play for town win %. There is a not-so-subtle difference between the two and you are blatantly changing what I say.
Now if you really think this is an appeal to emotion, why is it scummy?

That's 3 instances so far where you overplay, ignore or outright change words while still attributing it as a direct quote just to force an argument.

Here's misrep #4!

why would there be any reason why you would need jmo's permission to vote confirmed scum...?

This isn't asking for permission (see the difference between may and shall). Jmo is the obvious lynchpin coming in to today, it is about not rushing. If he wanted time to think and question I am and was fine with that. Compare the two:

I don't want this game to drag on. If I am wrong and JMO is scum then GG.

jmo do you need to hear me expound on anything

Gen urges to just get it over with asap. I am not rushing and open to discussion.

You're acting like you expect him to completely change his playstyle in order to facilitate discussion and urging him to hammer quicker if he can't adapt to the condition you know he's not going to meet, and rushing a hammer in this situation is scummy as fuck.

And another misrep. The day was dragging. I had said my piece Gen was flaking or only responding in whining rants about how unfair this game was to him. I'm urging jmo to actually pace the game, he is the only one undecided and there is no reason to hold any information at this point in the game. Gen and I weren't making any profitable discussion, we also had no doubts about alignment. Jmo is and was the one who isn't in the know. He needed to take some control over the game and probe into the areas that he believes will help him come to a conclusion. This is me urging him to talk and discuss.

You say twice that I'm urging him to hammer. Tell me where?
Is it here

If you really want Gen or I to say something YOU might have to put a card down and say "POST X is alignment Y'ey because of reason Z'.

Where I'm urging him to post his belief(s) and reasoning.

or here?

TBH you're really bad at dialogue, which hurts activity in games when Gen and I have made our peace."

Where again I'm urging him to talk.
"Dialogue", "say", "avenues of discussion".

Not vote.

[jmo16mla]

Il be hammering tonight as i dont think i will be awake for deadline.

[jmo16mla]

Tamuz, your numbers pointed you out to be scum..

[Tamuz]

Compare Post 878, pulled I replaced in (0 posts from me in my slot) and Post 948, (33 posts).

[jmo16mla]

Your slot is still the same alignment.

[jmo16mla]

VOTE: nacho

Tamuz, you scum?

[Tamuz]

It is, but certainly some things changed between me and my predecessors, one being sample size. The other being that I posted, scumhunted and didn't lurk myself out of the game. Lurk posts, unsurprisingly, lead scummy.