Xenogears Mafia (Game Over)

[TiphaineDeath]

I want zmuffin to answer this, not ven, what's scummy about my post?

[nickthename]

Me being heavily tempted to vote venmar was out of frustration with his stupidity, not because I think he is scum.

Well, then I suppose your reason is different than mine.

[TiphaineDeath]

Interesting, why is ven scum nick?

[Faster Than Light]

TD's response of frustration is interesting. Dunno if it merits a vote.
Venmar, I get the feeling there's gonna be a lot of targeting kinds of PRs, just given the nature of the source material and the large setup. PGO seems like a pretty damn simultaneously safe and polarizing claim to make on D1.
Is it too scummy to be scum, though? I mean, this is the perfect window for the claim--early and before any large wagons form.
The problem is that it polarizes the game too much.
If you're town, scum won't kill you either out of fear or to WIFOM town into lynching you.
If you're scum, town'll be hesitant to lynch you due to your power.
It's a strong claim both ways, so I guess I'll read it as null/leaning-scum.
I want to discuss more with my other head before I vote, but FoS on Venmar. Still getting used to what it means to hydra.
I don't think TD's response is very scum, but just frustration-tell.

@MetalSonicHead: Haha, that's cool Sonic lore! So, he fused with the chaos emeralds to become Faster Than Light. I have been noted for my chaotic approach to past games. Your hydra'ing with me is fusing with a sort of chaotic entity and becoming... Faster Than Light. :3

P-EDIT:
Woahwoahwoah, Nickthename, slammin all these votes without articulation! I like your style.
TD, glad that my earlier frustration read was on the money. :3
Nick, can you give a rea--oooooh.

-V

[Faster Than Light]

Vote: Venmar

[Faster Than Light]

Temptation to claim is high, but I was banned for it before, so I dunno.
Probably not a safe move to make anymore. :/

-V

[Nachopappa]

Vote: Nachomamma8

Pappa and Mamma are reunited <3

[Faster Than Light]

Vote: Nachomamma8

Pappa and Mamma are reunited <3

More importantly, what do you think of the current interactions?
Your RVS-ish vote doesn't really give us much.

-V

[notscience]

Bert are you scum

[BROseidon]

I'm pleasantly surprised that there isn't a wagon on me for last game >.>

I don't think PGO-claim warrants a day 1 lynch. I'm pretty sure that I'd be inclined to day-1 claim PGO if I rolled it.

I want to see Varsoon posting.

pedit: Oh hey Varsoon

[BROseidon]

Wait is pappa a Bert alt?

[nickthename]

Vote: Nachomamma8

Pappa and Mamma are reunited <3

This isn't RVS anymore, champ.

As to Venmar, I feel like town would want to hold on to the claim, and use it against the scum, instead of claiming page 2. Perhaps this is a playstyle thing, but such an early, reasonless claim comes across as an attempt for scum to get their foot in the door with a fakeclaim early.

[notscience]

Who says this isn't RVS anymore

[Faster Than Light]

@BRO: Which is why it's a polarizing claim, BRO. Also-also, I don't think wagons based on meta/previous games in RVS are worthwhile. Chances of you rolling scum in two back-to-back Bork games are low, but I'm gonna judge you based on the quality of your posts. Metal, well, I dunno what rubric he uses to dole out the judgments.

@Nickthename: Oh, well, that clears a little up on your motivations. I thought you had different reasons that would've been damning. Still, my vote stays.

@Notscience: The content in the game that allows it not to be. Also, me. Play the game.

-V

[nickthename]

Who says this isn't RVS anymore

Me. Content, pls.

[notscience]

Who says this isn't RVS anymore

Me. Content, pls.

Frustration is the most common form of AtE, which isn't a scumtell

So p much only null tells

That gambit can come from either alignment.

Happy?

[RachMarie]

Simple
call NachoP Bert cause it is Bert, and Nacho is Nacho

No fair you guys n gals I did not get to RVS


Want to take a look at the interplay tween B n B and SoS

I do realize of course that the Mollie head and the fery head are long time friends from another site, but want to be sure it is not being used as a cover for buddying.

Nacho needs to get in here and POST

peeps with votes on Venmar need to like remove them for a bit, the claim will sort itself out soon enough, and speaking of claiming...

Var head of FTL no do not claim that is what got you in trouble before. Don't make me spank you, young man.

more later and hey Nick cool to get to finally play with you in a forum game instead of a skype game.

Pedit ya all slow down long enough for me to post grrrr....

Yes Papa is Bert

Bro why would you assume that? Each game is randomized and its a very low chance that you are scum in BOTH games? Especially since this time its not multiball as per the OP.

I may use meta to figure out people's alignments, but I never assume that because someone is scum in Game A they must be scum in Game B. In fact usually it is not the case that someone is scum in back to back games.


Pedit # 2

Notty its no longer RVS duh Time for content please

[BROseidon]

Bro why would you assume that? Each game is randomized and its a very low chance that you are scum in BOTH games? Especially since this time its not multiball as per the OP.

Because RVS is arbitrary, so people could be like, "well, he was scum last game and won, so let's RVS here." It's as good of a reason as any.

[Faster Than Light]

@notscience: Dude, play the game.

@Rach: S'why I won't claim (right now). I'm interested in ffery and mollie's plays since, y'know, I've played with them a bit since and I think I have a better handle on them.
I still have no fucking clue how to read you, though.
I think what BRO is saying is that he figures other people will assume that. I dunno. RVS wagons are silly.


-V

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

Mollie the game has been open nearly an hour and you haven't reached out to us. You're scum this time, aren't you?

You are such a troll.

What do you mean bby you already can read faster than light!
You know, like analyzing whole TD's ISO within a minute.

Looool

I'm not in the least mollified by this forced looking reach out.

Staaaahp!

I. Don't. Even. All you stupid fuckers need to stop PGO claiming, either it's a bad gambit, or you are one in which case you should be playing in such a way that scum will target you and not town to get free kills instead of dumbassing. Heavily tempted to vote venmar here....

I don't like you.

@MetalSonicHead: Haha, that's cool Sonic lore! So, he fused with the chaos emeralds to become Faster Than Light. I have been noted for my chaotic approach to past games. Your hydra'ing with me is fusing with a sort of chaotic entity and becoming... Faster Than Light. :3

I might reach through the optical drive and strangle you to death before the end of this game.

Chances of you rolling scum in two back-to-back Bork games are low

Gambler's fallacy. He has an x/21 chance of rolling scum, where x stands for the number of scum. Previous rolls do not affect his chances in this instance.

Don't make me spank you, young man.

I still have no fucking clue how to read you, though.

Let me read Rach. I think the only time I've ever read her wrong was when I was scum.

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

Oh and for what it's worth, I'm rooting for Solaris. Sounds so much cooler than Nisan.

[Trust Fund]

Nick:
Do you disagree with the wiki's play advice here?

The ideal play for a PGO is to get targeted by the Mafia, while not being targeted by any Town power roles. However, safer play is to claim directly -- this keeps other Town power roles safe, but also ensures the Mafia will not target you. Note that by claiming, you are opening yourself up to potentially being policy lynched at some point during the game.

P-edit: 'sup jiffy. You gonna yell at me this game too? +1 to your post about gambler's fallacy; 'das stupid.

~Sasha

[Trust Fund]

Oh and this is serious-varsoon, which is alarming, but I need to go read HxH mafia for a baseline. Or just have nacho post.

[Venmar]

TD's response of frustration is interesting. Dunno if it merits a vote.
Venmar, I get the feeling there's gonna be a lot of targeting kinds of PRs, just given the nature of the source material and the large setup. PGO seems like a pretty damn simultaneously safe and polarizing claim to make on D1.
Is it too scummy to be scum, though? I mean, this is the perfect window for the claim--early and before any large wagons form.
The problem is that it polarizes the game too much.
If you're town, scum won't kill you either out of fear or to WIFOM town into lynching you.
If you're scum, town'll be hesitant to lynch you due to your power.
It's a strong claim both ways, so I guess I'll read it as null/leaning-scum.
I want to discuss more with my other head before I vote, but FoS on Venmar. Still getting used to what it means to hydra.
I don't think TD's response is very scum, but just frustration-tell.

lol, hello mr.waffle

As to Venmar, I feel like town would want to hold on to the claim, and use it against the scum, instead of claiming page 2. Perhaps this is a playstyle thing, but such an early, reasonless claim comes across as an attempt for scum to get their foot in the door with a fakeclaim early.

lol, you must be new here

[Venmar]

I'm going to play the role I got dealt however I see fit, I used it to claim immediately to make sure town doesn't kill themselves on it, but more importantly to gauge reactions out of people and I think TD is scum for his reaction.