Xenogears Mafia (Game Over)

[Sound of Silence]

I didn't like the Mac vote itself.

And why is that?

Because I kinda think he's town.

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

Want to take a look at the interplay tween B n B and SoS

I do realize of course that the Mollie head and the fery head are long time friends from another site, but want to be sure it is not being used as a cover for buddying.

yes cos fery and I would totally fall for that. I am so glad we have you to help sort that out.

I can't tell if this bugs me or not

[notscience]

Okay

So

All that stuff shouldn't really matter and admittedly I should have waited to bait scum with that.

Meh.

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

Are we all pretending we have reaction tests going in this game?

No reaction test, I needed a VC with the full wagon. It started to feel sour a few votes after I voted. So now I'm gonna dive in and look at all the votes.

[Trust Fund]

Varsoon ended up bieng town, AJ

[Faster Than Light]

SoS votes BROseidon
TiphaneD votes FTL
MuffinMan votes NachoPappa
Notscience votes Trust Fund
AJ votes Notscience
Notscience votes Notscience
TRUSTsasha votes NachoPappa
Venmar votes TiphaneD
MuffinMan votes TiphaneD
NickTheName votes Venmar
FTL votes Venmar
NachoPappa votes NachoMamma
TiphaneD votes FTL
FTL unvotes Venmar
NickTheName votes TiphaneD
TiphaneD votes MuffinMan
B&B votes TiphaneD
Mac votes TiphaneD
Ghostlin votes TiphaneD
FTL votes TiphaneD
TiphaneD votes Mac
TrustSasha votes TiphaneD
NickTheName votes Mac
Nhammen votes FTL
B&B unvotes TiphaneD
AJ votes NickTheName


All the FTL votes so far have been done by the Varsoon head. Unsure of which head in B&B and in SoS is operating, so no comment on which head did votes.
I think this list is accurate.

[Nachopappa]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

notty I wanted to go far into the game with you........

<333333333

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

I meant the actual posts with the votes

Nevermind I'll do it myself.

[Aj The Epic]

Alright. So it was just a trolly style. Thanks.

Guessing that's Jiffy in 253 (punctuation). So, I just read the game again (when making my last post) and I can tell you that most of the votes looked like this:

Blah blah blah I'm town

Vote:TD

[notscience]

I think it's been only Majiffy and Ffery

Pedit

lolwut

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

Let me read Rach. I think the only time I've ever read her wrong was when I was scum.

wtf both you and nacho read her wrong in the last game. mebbe you should leave rach to someone who has never mislynched her and has actually identified her scum.

@varsoon

would it be too much to ask if you would change your avvie to where it doesn't move? it keeps catching my peripheral and it makes my eyes hurt

[Mac]

Want to take a look at the interplay tween B n B and SoS

I do realize of course that the Mollie head and the fery head are long time friends from another site, but want to be sure it is not being used as a cover for buddying.

yes cos fery and I would totally fall for that. I am so glad we have you to help sort that out.

I can't tell if this bugs me or not

does rach normally do this?

i dont recall it last game

[Faster Than Light]

@AJ: I've already explained how my vote was delivered on the grounds that I wanted to pressure Venmar about his claim and that I felt that NickTheName had a more substantial reason for voting him as well.

@B&B: Gah! I can do it with the actual posts, sorry! I thought you just wanted a votes list in order of vote. I'll change my avatar for you. :3

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

I'm going to play the role I got dealt however I see fit, I used it to claim immediately to make sure town doesn't kill themselves on it, but more importantly to gauge reactions out of people and I think TD is scum for his reaction.

no

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

I do realize of course that the Mollie head and the fery head are long time friends from another site, but want to be sure it is not being used as a cover for buddying.

If mollie and I figure out that each other are town then we will at turns buddy the hell out of each other and suffer from intense paranoia. It will be fun for all.

Hi Majiffy.

If I werer PGO I'd play it similarly to what Venmar is doing.

I agree that Tiphaine's reaction wasn't cool. Also think that Varsoon and MS both seem off. Nachopappa (whom I will call Bert for the most part) isn't looking very town to me atm. But, I gather he usually doesn't when he's town.

almost want to call you town for this post

[Sound of Silence]

I think it's been only Majiffy and Ffery

Pedit

lolwut

Totally wrong. gif has posted, and so has mollie.

[Sound of Silence]

TrustFund your turn to call one.

[BROseidon]

2) BRO's #79 makes no sense under a microscope. A miller and PGO are somewhat different roles and I don't consider the change-up to be alignment indicative.

Both are anti-town roles that can fuck with town PRs if they go unclaimed because town PRs target them.

Varsoon scum is looking more and more likely.

Agreed. Varsoon is being cogent.

pretty sure you are running away.

now answer the questions asked at you or be lynched. it's simple.

I don't recall you being this assertive anywhere else ever. Gonna note that here...

I'm pretty sure he gets to push whoever he wants. Why are you shutting that down?

Potential Ghost chainsaw for Mac noted.

(OOC: Whoa dude. I found that slightly offensive and I'm prone to call things fucking stupid. Could we not target players with something that's probably offensive to a fair amount of the subsection of this site?)

<3

nhammen your catchup post reminds me of an opening post from another game. Gonna keep an eye on you

notscience has elected to identify as

Midori Uzuki of the Nisan Alliance.

Why does everyone ever who rolls IC play it like an idiot. YES, WE ALL SAW YOUR OBVIOUS CRUMB, WHY DID YOU HAVE TO GO AND CONFIRM IT FOR SCUM.

I'd ask what the motivation for that was, but hell if it even matters.

I call it "dumb motivation." I added it to the list of motivations Nacho gave me after my newbie game.

TownMac, I think.

Nope. Slot is my strongest scumread right now.

Something other than oh he was scum last time please.

You do realize no one said that, right? Or did I miss that?

I'm like 50% convinced that Rach doesn't actually read games in any amount of detail >.>

Cause though I can see how that would look scummy, the fact we have a wagon build up this fast this early before everyone has even posted kinda sets up my scumdar a tad.

This is important. That TD wagon built faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaast. That alone makes me think TD is town.

Okay 223 looks pretty town. Gonna need a bit more time to get a good read here, but I should have it eventually.

Nick is probably town.

Okay I'm really not getting why everyone is townreading Mac I he is in the null-scum range for me.

Also AJ's post looks like natural growth from Xenoblade. Going to tentatively townread the slot.

Strongest townreads right now are TD/Nick/AJ. Light scumread on nhammen, slightly stronger scumread on Mac. I do not recall him being this assertive in Xenoblade, or his other games that I've skimmed, and his push on TD went too far. He should have, at the very least, been worried about how quickly the votes came after his.

Also where the fuck is Nacho.

[Mac]

what are you talking about being assertive, bro?

[Sound of Silence]

I do realize of course that the Mollie head and the fery head are long time friends from another site, but want to be sure it is not being used as a cover for buddying.

If mollie and I figure out that each other are town then we will at turns buddy the hell out of each other and suffer from intense paranoia. It will be fun for all.

Hi Majiffy.

If I werer PGO I'd play it similarly to what Venmar is doing.

I agree that Tiphaine's reaction wasn't cool. Also think that Varsoon and MS both seem off. Nachopappa (whom I will call Bert for the most part) isn't looking very town to me atm. But, I gather he usually doesn't when he's town.

almost want to call you town for this post

that might almost restore my faith in your ability to even recognize my town game.

[Mac]

and how does the speed of a wagon arising have anything to do with alignment?

[BROseidon]

153 and the interactions with TD that follow. I remember your style being, "poke into conversations and ask insightful questions that can cause problems for scum."

pedit: I feel like you should know the answer to that question.

[nickthename]

Case on Mac.

Spoiler:

you know there is nothing wrong with what venmar did? and in fact, your alternative solutions would have had more of a negative effect than the way venmar has played it?

VOTE: TiphaineDeath

i don't like the way you are playing so far.

His initial reason for getting on the wagon is pretty insubstantial

we are most certainly not done with it.

stop running away.

pretty sure you are running away.
now answer the questions asked at you or be lynched. it's simple.

And yet he follows up pushing the wagon without really posting his own reason.
I'm not posting the whole iso, but suffice to say up till 208 he doesn't give a reason for being on the wagon, despite pushing it heavily.

It's not a mother fucking policy lynch, I didn't push a lynch on venmar, I never voted venmar, and I hate policy lynches. Remove-head-from-rectum-conf-town.

and yet you said you were "heavily tempted" to vote Venmar earlier

But TD explained in his very next post that he only said that out of frustration, and never intended to actually vote him. Mac seems to have ignored that post entirely.

I. Don't. Even. All you stupid fuckers need to stop PGO claiming, either it's a bad gambit, or you are one in which case you should be playing in such a way that scum will target you and not town to get free kills instead of dumbassing. Heavily tempted to vote venmar here....

You didn't vote him, but you made this little half-step push thing, which is worse in my book.

bingo. it looks alot like you were flirting with the idea but waiting for someone else to take the initiative, TD.

As I said early, this is simply incompatible with what Ven and TD actually said there. This is either joining and staying on a big wagon without even reading the reason cited for being on it, or blatent misrepping.

ok. i was wrong. remind me why that makes me scum? I've justified my place on this wagon already.

also voting venmar for stupidity = policy lynch. despite td apparently hating them.

What you were wrong about

was

your justification for being on the wagon, did you even read what I said?
Also, TD never voted venmar for stupidity, which is consistent with his dislike of PLs. That's not a reason to vote TD.

As far as why it makes you scum, well, obviously you aren't confirmed scum for it, but hopping on, staying on, and pushing a large wagon without bothering to read the posts of or try to understand the intent of the person you are wagoning doesn't seem at all town to me.

Now I have a crapload more posts to read since when I started writing this.

[Trust Fund]

TrustFund your turn to call one.

Depends on the approach we're going to take. You thinking townbloc style, or just reads list bouncing? I mean syr is probably gonna come in later and start trolling, but i'll be srs bsns for now. Hmm.... How about AJ? I mean xenoblade was before I developed my supermetawhore self, so I never really ran it. Besides xenoblae, whatcha got?

[Faster Than Light]

@B&B: Would you like me to run through the game and do a multi-quote version of the list or just link the post numbers with each vote or are you gonna take care of it?
@BRO: One of the things I found last game (with this pool of players) was that being an arrogant, non-compliant son of a bitch got me strung up. If I can help town, I'll help town, rather than being obtuse and illogical about it. Saying "Varsoon is being direct and appealing to Logos!" as a scum-tell is a bit frustrating. Don't confine me to one avenue of play, please. Also, what wagon analysis do you have to chip in on TD's wagon that you think makes it scummy aside from speed? I also don't like Mac's interactions, esp his vote on TD, but I hold that TD is scum.

-V