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Post Post #275 (ISO) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:13 am

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Spoiler: The TD Wagon
In post 40, Venmar wrote:Wow.

Vote: TiphaineDeath


Scum caught, vote away!

GO BE FREE MY LITTLE BIRDS, LYNCH HIM

We are not in RVS anymore, this is a serious vote, please lynch.
In post 43, zMuffinMan wrote:
Vote: TiphaineDeath
*Note: In 41, he asks TD a question. TD does not have time to answer before this vote, as 42 was Venmar yelling to kill it with fire.
In post 102, nickthename wrote:
In post 93, TiphaineDeath wrote:But bnb, why you no like me? </3. I didn't subtle push, I raged, there's a difference.
VOTE: ftl
What even is this shit?
VOTE: Tiphaine
*Note: Pushing Venmar until wagon was visibly not gaining traction. Hopped on counterwagon with a weak vote.
In post 138, Mac wrote:you know there is nothing wrong with what venmar did? and in fact, your alternative solutions would have had more of a negative effect than the way venmar has played it?

VOTE: TiphaineDeath

i don't like the way you are playing so far.
*Note: This is probably definitely a town vote.
In post 143, Ghostlin wrote:3) TD is playing like a mule on crack, which seems to indicate he wants us to distract from the Ven vote by acting like someone gave him drugs. His idea of Ven not claiming seems dissonant to the Town wincon. Also, I'm getting a hate-on for notscience.

Vote: TD
*Note: Also pretty townie.
In post 171, Trust Fund wrote:Apparently so?
Sorry Colin, I'm voting anyways.
VOTE: TD
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In post 144, Faster Than Light wrote:I don't really buy TD's backing off with "I am tired", either. Feels like a lazy, early-game deflection.
Of course, I don't like Venmar's response to my pressure either, but like you and I said, we shouldn't judge on a claim, but on play throughout the game.
Vote: TD


-V

Muffin
, why didn't you wait for TD to answer your question before reasonlessly hopping the wagon?

I want
Nick
to explain 102 and what, exactly, his problem was with the post that merited a vote.

FTL
please explain where the reaction test in 99 was initiated, where the reaction was, and what the reaction told you. Please use
quotes.


Cabd
, what was going through your mind when you voted TD in 171? Why were you thinking he was scum? Why didn't you elaborate when you voted him? Tell me about the conversation you were having with Syryana that you felt the need to apologize for placing the vote. Did Syryana read TD as town?

FTL
: Where was Venmar's reaction that you didn't like? Also I feel like you're misrepping TD's position by saying that he's using "I am tired" to back off.
In post 189, nhammen wrote:Current scum candidates: FTL, TD (for reasons described by 81 and 91)
Where are these reasons? I didn't see them. You also did not quote any posts numbered 81 or 91 in this post. Please elaborate immediately.
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Post Post #276 (ISO) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:14 am

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In post 273, Trust Fund wrote:
In post 266, Sound of Silence wrote:TrustFund your turn to call one.
Depends on the approach we're going to take. You thinking townbloc style, or just reads list bouncing? I mean syr is probably gonna come in later and start trolling, but i'll be srs bsns for now. Hmm.... How about AJ? I mean xenoblade was before I developed my supermetawhore self, so I never really ran it. Besides xenoblae, whatcha got?
I am looking for preliminary reads right now.

I have recollection of my Xeno I meta run. No other completed games besides Xeno I. I need more data to figure him out. Seeing what Nacho says about him and vice versa will probably help me figure out both of them.
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Post Post #277 (ISO) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:14 am

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Oh perfect, top of the page where no one can miss it.

I want answers from all of you in bold. Also you, Nhammen.
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Post Post #278 (ISO) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:16 am

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In post 271, BROseidon wrote:153 and the interactions with TD that follow. I remember your style being, "poke into conversations and ask insightful questions that can cause problems for scum."

pedit: I feel like you should know the answer to that question.
meh, my play changes. i was pretty good in xenoblade but it took me a while to get going.

wrt the answer, humour me.
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Post Post #279 (ISO) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:16 am

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You know, we've got it, should use it...
Spoiler:
In post 255, Faster Than Light wrote:SoS[1] votes BROseidon
TiphaneD[1] votes FTL
MuffinMan[1] votes NachoPappa
Notscience
[1] votes Trust Fund
AJ[1] votes
Notscience

Notscience
[2] votes
Notscience

TRUSTsasha[1] votes NachoPappa
Venmar[1] votes TiphaneD
MuffinMan[2] votes TiphaneD
NickTheName[1] votes Venmar
FTL[2] votes Venmar
NachoPappa[2] votes NachoMamma
TiphaneD[2] votes FTL
FTL unvotes Venmar
NickTheName[2] votes TiphaneD
TiphaneD[3] votes MuffinMan

B&B[1] votes TiphaneD
Mac[1] votes TiphaneD
Ghostlin[1] votes TiphaneD
FTL[3] votes TiphaneD

TiphaneD[4] votes Mac

TrustSasha[2] votes TiphaneD
NickTheName[3] votes Mac

Nhammen[1] votes FTL
B&B unvotes TiphaneD
AJ[2] votes NickTheName


Green for confirmed town (namely NS)
Red for any votes three and over.

Honestly, the only thing I notice is TD seems to flail a lot under pressure. Most of these first seem more random than anything.
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Post Post #280 (ISO) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:17 am

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It's not just appealing to Logos. There are other things that I look for in your posting, and your last few posts seem to be coming from your town-self. I need more time to calibrate the read.

And holy fuck posts.
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Post Post #281 (ISO) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:19 am

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In post 138, Mac wrote:you know there is nothing wrong with what venmar did? and in fact, your alternative solutions would have had more of a negative effect than the way venmar has played it?

VOTE: TiphaineDeath

i don't like the way you are playing so far.
you are scum aren't you

not liking that varsoon thing or muffin thing either

liking td, ns, venny almost wanna put silence in there too

and if you guys do not get off of td's dick I am gonna get pissed

@ venny

I love you but you are being retarded. stahp it
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Post Post #282 (ISO) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:20 am

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Cool 6 pages.

PEdit: What I do
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Post Post #283 (ISO) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:20 am

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no mollie im not and you should know that.
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Post Post #284 (ISO) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:20 am

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In post 275, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:Cabd, what was going through your mind when you voted TD in 171? Why were you thinking he was scum? Why didn't you elaborate when you voted him? Tell me about the conversation you were having with Syryana that you felt the need to apologize for placing the vote. Did Syryana read TD as town?
Sup.

Anyways, you see TD under pressure, and then he lashes out at Mac in a bout of OMGUS. Same reason I read reckoner as scum in red wedding (ask mollie) things that are "too scummy to be scum" don't really make me feel great about a player/slot.
Haven't talked to syr since like.... page 3. He's offline, the jerk. I usually prefer to vote when my other head agreed with me, but sometimes I prefer to run solo.
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Post Post #285 (ISO) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:21 am

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And the votes I'm thinking are the potential scum-votes on the TD wagon are Muffin, Mac, Ghost (++ to chances if Macscum), TF).

Wagons on town build faster than wagons on scum b/c scum are going to more quickly jump on a rolling wagon against a townie than one against scum. Scum tend to push anti-town/erratic behavior from those they know to be town very hard, hoping to get a mislynch there.

pedit: woohoo mollie is here <3
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Post Post #286 (ISO) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:23 am

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In post 145, Trust Fund wrote:Varsoon scum is looking more and more likely.

Not that I disagree with the TD wagon, mind you.
I like you too

the td wagon is shit and opportunistic as hell
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Post Post #287 (ISO) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:24 am

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In post 284, Trust Fund wrote: Anyways, you see TD under pressure, and then he lashes out at Mac in a bout of OMGUS. Same reason I read reckoner as scum in red wedding (ask mollie) things that are "too scummy to be scum" don't really make me feel great about a player/slot.
Haven't talked to syr since like.... page 3. He's offline, the jerk. I usually prefer to vote when my other head agreed with me, but sometimes I prefer to run solo.
Had you considered his emotional outburst from a town perspective? If so, why does it not fit? If not, why not?
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Post Post #288 (ISO) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:24 am

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How the fuck was I opportunistic, stop discrediting a completely valid wagon
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Post Post #289 (ISO) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:25 am

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In post 286, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:the td wagon is shit and opportunistic as hell
Hi, welcome to page 12. I'm sure when you catch up you'll be apologizing.
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Post Post #290 (ISO) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:25 am

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Maybe, maybe not. I dislike the notion of "wagon too fast to be scum" given how quickly ffery's wagon grew in xeno last time. The last few votes took forever, but the wagon grew pretty damn quickly. I distrinctly remember you raking me over the coals for not joining it, in fact.

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Post Post #291 (ISO) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:26 am

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In post 287, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 284, Trust Fund wrote: Anyways, you see TD under pressure, and then he lashes out at Mac in a bout of OMGUS. Same reason I read reckoner as scum in red wedding (ask mollie) things that are "too scummy to be scum" don't really make me feel great about a player/slot.
Haven't talked to syr since like.... page 3. He's offline, the jerk. I usually prefer to vote when my other head agreed with me, but sometimes I prefer to run solo.
Had you considered his emotional outburst from a town perspective? If so, why does it not fit? If not, why not?
I mean, it could be town lashout, but I don't feel it's as likely to be town-lash as scum-lash; and either way, heaping on pressure means more emotions, which means an easier read.
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Post Post #292 (ISO) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:26 am

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In post 288, Venmar wrote:How the fuck was I opportunistic, stop discrediting a completely valid wagon
Which of the following do you think could be read as opportunistic:

1) Being the first person on a wagon.

2) Having a wagon reach 8 votes in a span of like 100 posts.

Why are you being defensive?

pedit: HOLY FUCK THAT WAGON TO FOR FUCKING EVER. SHE WAS CAUGHT FOR LIKE 2K POSTS.
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Post Post #293 (ISO) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:27 am

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In post 286, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 145, Trust Fund wrote:Varsoon scum is looking more and more likely.

Not that I disagree with the TD wagon, mind you.
I like you too

the td wagon is shit and opportunistic as hell
Granted the first statement, I disagree with the later but that's okay.
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Post Post #294 (ISO) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:27 am

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I think that was probably Mollie raking you over it.

The last Xeno game is a long forgotten memory to me. I never did get too attached.
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Post Post #295 (ISO) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:27 am

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In post 292, BROseidon wrote:pedit: HOLY FUCK THAT WAGON TO FOR FUCKING EVER. SHE WAS CAUGHT FOR LIKE 2K POSTS.
It built up quickly though, it took forever to get hammered.
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Post Post #296 (ISO) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:27 am

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In post 294, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:I think that was probably Mollie raking you over it.

The last Xeno game is a long forgotten memory to me. I never did get too attached.
Of course it was. The yelly shouty fonts etc were all so fun.
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Post Post #297 (ISO) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:28 am

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In post 295, Trust Fund wrote:
In post 292, BROseidon wrote:pedit: HOLY FUCK THAT WAGON TO FOR FUCKING EVER. SHE WAS CAUGHT FOR LIKE 2K POSTS.
It built up quickly though, it took forever to get hammered.
I reread day 1.

So many times.

I was like the 6th person on that wagon after dancing around it for around 1k posts. It did not build anywhere remotely as quickly as TD's wagon here has. It's a degree of magnitude of difference.
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Post Post #298 (ISO) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:28 am

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In post 291, Trust Fund wrote:I mean, it could be town lashout, but I don't feel it's as likely to be town-lash as scum-lash; and either way, heaping on pressure means more emotions, which means an easier read.
So you received an emotional response, which looked scum, why?
And if you received an emotional response already, what good did you feel the vote would do,
only
in regards to pressure?
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Post Post #299 (ISO) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:30 am

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In post 295, Trust Fund wrote:
In post 292, BROseidon wrote:pedit: HOLY FUCK THAT WAGON TO FOR FUCKING EVER. SHE WAS CAUGHT FOR LIKE 2K POSTS.
It built up quickly though, it took forever to get hammered.
Not really true iirc. It plateaued several times and even dropped votes occasionally. Was hell on the rest of the scum team deciding when to jump on.
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