Mini 1468: Legends of the Hidden Temple- Game Over!

[serrapaladin]

Like hell he does. I'm at L-2 and with Venmar's hovering vote I might as well be at L-1.

That's not the point at which town thinks: "whelp, seems I'm not getting my actual scumread lynched, so let me just intent to hammer the counterwagon".

[AngryPidgeon]

I do think that QT thing was a simple misunderstanding

What about it was a misunderstanding?? I cant even tell if you are talking about what I think you are.

[AngryPidgeon]

Like hell he does. I'm at L-2 and with Venmar's hovering vote I might as well be at L-1.

That's not the point at which town thinks: "whelp, seems I'm not getting my actual scumread lynched, so let me just intent to hammer the counterwagon".

Except everyone on the Majiffy wagon is being stubborn as fuck.

I try to move people off and am called scum with Majiffy.

Shrug.

Maybe Im jaded cause literally every game Day has had the same bullshit happen.

[AngryPidgeon]

Tell me though, Venmar. What sparked your interest?

I would like Venmar to acknowledge this.

[Venmar]

I have acknowledged it, I just don't feel like responding.

Call it gut.

[Majiffy]

Although I don't completely agree with wisdom's view, there is something off about Majiffy's challenge. The mollie scumread came more or less out of nowhere (and really didn't have enough support to justify a challenge), and there's no way I'm buying that Majiffy challenged Grim because "it was the popular opinion".

You should first know that Mollie and I play together constantly, probably close to about 40 games since she started on this site.

And why not @ Challenge?

[serrapaladin]

@Venmar: Cool story bro.

In our QT, in the run up to his lynch coug said that it looks as though he'll die soon and he asked Grim to keep posting in the QT if coug is lynched. Grim took this as AtE from coug to convince Grim he's town. I think both coug's request and Grim's take were reasonable.

Maybe Im jaded cause literally every game Day has had the same bullshit happen.

I get that it's shit if you don't get your scumreads lynched, and I suppose all I can do is tell you that you're barking up the wrong tree and to stop tunnelling. Grim's last QT post actually shows quite a bit of frustration at the fact that he's engaging with this game a lot, and has reads he's confident in, but still seems to attract so many scumreads from people, not all of whom can be scum.

@Majiffy: from what I've seen of your game, doing something because people want you to isn't really your style. Did you actually think you had a good chance at getting mollie lynched when you challenged?

[serrapaladin]

AP, what do you think about the posts by enomis/sera that I said I found genuine?

[serrapaladin]

And Majiffy, do you have any good reasons for scumreading mollie besides her avoidance of this thread? Did you just expect people to sheep your 40 games worth of experience?

[SeraphicMirth]

Do you feel that he will give you any information that will change your mind? Because, really, he hasn't done any actual defending nor produced any actual accusations that stand any ground or that are any good. Not that mine are great, but he has been on the wagon to lynch three townies and had just ridiculously weak-sauce argument for Elyse (and probably the others..I ISOed once and already forgot, just overall doesn't actually delve into much detail).

Protip: Wrong is not a scumtell. Hope this helps.

Yeah, I get that and all....I guess my next thought is: why are you still, then, acting so confident as though we should just go along with who you want to lynch just because you said so/with weak arguments? You have a bad track record this game and I think your play style continues to be harmful to the town in this way - I think that it is scummy to act overconfident about who you think is scum to lynch and provide little explanation with the way you have voted and been wrong thus far. I think if you were really out for town interest, you would make more of an arguments/interpretations to present for consideration. But, like you keep trying to make me aware of...maybe you just always play this way. As I stated earlier on, I don't really care for meta-play arguments so guess that's that.

And before anyone says it, I am aware that Enomis has basically no track record and neither do I really. That part sucks and lowers my credibility for this type of argument but it is really how I see it.

[serrapaladin]

Have you read any game with Majiffy? He's actually like this...

Besides Majiffy and me, is there anyone you'd consider for scum?

[Venmar]

@Venmar: Cool story bro.

I KNOW AM I RIGHT OR AM I RIGHT, ITS SOOO GOOD

[serrapaladin]

Still not going to engage with me?

[SeraphicMirth]

Have you read any game with Majiffy? He's actually like this...

Besides Majiffy and me, is there anyone you'd consider for scum?

No, I haven't read any of his games. Maybe I'm wrong then..idk. Still going to stick with my vote.

TBH, a lot of people in this game are all over the place and therefore difficult to read - wis, AP, & mollie in particular I still don't really know how I feel about. So, those are possibilities but I haven't looked at any of them in depth/ISO at this point. Well, I tried to do Mollie but the posts were kind of difficult to read...overall vibe was not enough solid contribution to the game one way or the other...so still didn't have a conclusive feel/read about her.

[Majiffy]

@Majiffy: from what I've seen of your game, doing something because people want you to isn't really your style. Did you actually think you had a good chance at getting mollie lynched when you challenged?

I wanted to pressure her and see how she reacted. She didn't react well.

And Majiffy, do you have any good reasons for scumreading mollie besides her avoidance of this thread? Did you just expect people to sheep your 40 games worth of experience?

She hasn't been interacting with me the way she usually does in situations where we can communicate outside the game (hydras, for example) despite having had a strong townread on me at the start of the game. This makes me think she's hiding something / doesn't want me to get too much to use against her.

And yes, I do expect you to sheep me based on that heavy amount of prior experience.

Yeah, I get that and all....I guess my next thought is: why are you still, then, acting so confident as though we should just go along with who you want to lynch just because you said so/with weak arguments? You have a bad track record this game and I think your play style continues to be harmful to the town in this way - I think that it is scummy to act overconfident about who you think is scum to lynch and provide little explanation with the way you have voted and been wrong thus far. I think if you were really out for town interest, you would make more of an arguments/interpretations to present for consideration. But, like you keep trying to make me aware of...maybe you just always play this way. As I stated earlier on, I don't really care for meta-play arguments so guess that's that.

I find it ironic that you're calling me out for weak arguments yet you're trying to lynch me for playstyle reasons while overtly stating that "well maybe you just play this way but I don't care I'm going to vote you for it anyway"... Which is a weak argument and detrimental to the town.

Hmm... sound familiar?

[pirate mollie]

you were claiming to have been scum reading me before I even reacted so how does that work.

can we just lynch this now plz thx 1 of you pansies needs to man up and hammer him

[SeraphicMirth]

Yeah, I get that and all....I guess my next thought is: why are you still, then, acting so confident as though we should just go along with who you want to lynch just because you said so/with weak arguments? You have a bad track record this game and I think your play style continues to be harmful to the town in this way - I think that it is scummy to act overconfident about who you think is scum to lynch and provide little explanation with the way you have voted and been wrong thus far. I think if you were really out for town interest, you would make more of an arguments/interpretations to present for consideration. But, like you keep trying to make me aware of...maybe you just always play this way. As I stated earlier on, I don't really care for meta-play arguments so guess that's that.

I find it ironic that you're calling me out for weak arguments yet you're trying to lynch me for playstyle reasons while overtly stating that "well maybe you just play this way but I don't care I'm going to vote you for it anyway"... Which is a weak argument and detrimental to the town.

Hmm... sound familiar?

Yeah, I had that realization as I was saying it but I just have a feeling with how it all reads. Maybe you play that way too but your hunches have been off. No one has presented any solid arguments for anyone and this game is hard to play, much less replace into. So...yep. I dunno what else to say. I do think your play style is fishy - whether you play all the time like that or not and in combination with bad reads...while it doesn't necessarily equate to scum, it doesn't mean it's not either. That's all I've got right now. This game is balls so I dunno.

[serrapaladin]

UNVOTE:

:/

[Haschel Cedricson]

The pool of players eligible to be lynched today consists of:

Majiffy
pirate mollie

serrapaladin

Here are the current votes:

Majiffy(3) - Wisdom, pirate mollie, SeraphicMirth
serrapaladin(3) - qwints, AngryPidgeon, Majiffy
pirate mollie(0) -

Not Voting (2) - Venmar, serrapaladin

With 8 players alive, it will take 5 votes to lynch.

[Venmar]

PATIENCE DOES NOT COMPUTE

Vote: serrapaladin

[serrapaladin]

So now you decide to vote for me?

Worryingly, the last 15 or so pages actually do make more sense with Majiffy as town. And yet mollie's ISO for the first 70 or so pages really makes me think she's town... I'm not particularly willing to just sheep Majiffy, so I really have no idea what we should do today.

There's the off-chance that they're both scum, but that'd be a pretty ridiculous move by Majiffy.

[Wisdom]

Goddamnit, can we just lynch Majiffy? I don't want to go to lylo with 4 suspects.

[serrapaladin]

Do you read mollie as town as well then?

[Venmar]

I'm going into LyLo with like 4 or 5 suspects no matter what happens

[Majiffy]

you were claiming to have been scum reading me before I even reacted so how does that work.

She hasn't been interacting with me the way she usually does in situations where we can communicate outside the game (hydras, for example) despite having had a strong townread on me at the start of the game. This makes me think she's hiding something / doesn't want me to get too much to use against her.