I see it, at that point in time, to be at least somewhat legitimate. I can see where one would think TD is scum for such harsh reactions to Venmar PGO-claim. Add to that, his consistency with the NS claim, and you get a guy flailing like crazy and acting rather anti-town.In post 714, nickthename wrote:This is correct, and I consider it natural to look for scum on the TD wagon, especially considering how fast it grew. This quote here is significant, because later he claims to have already posted his reason for being on the wagon. This is that reason.In post 647, thezmon221 wrote:Why him specifically? Most of the people on the wagon initially jumped on because of this very same thing.In post 272, nickthename wrote:Case on Mac.His initial reason for getting on the wagon is pretty insubstantialIn post 138, Mac wrote:you know there is nothing wrong with what venmar did? and in fact, your alternative solutions would have had more of a negative effect than the way venmar has played it?
VOTE: TiphaineDeath
i don't like the way you are playing so far.
I see. So you're looking for elaboration on his part?I meant that between the previous post I commented on (138) and 208 he doesn't give a reason. I was agnowledging that he had aditional posts between 138 and 208, but none giving any other reason for being on the wagon.In post 647, thezmon221 wrote:Post 138 disagrees.And yet he follows up pushing the wagon without really posting his own reason.In post 153, Mac wrote:pretty sure you are running away.
now answer the questions asked at you or be lynched. it's simple.
I'm not posting the whole iso, but suffice to say up till 208 he doesn't give a reason for being on the wagon, despite pushing it heavily.
I'll give you this. This is actually pretty decent reasoning for Macscum.I agree with TD's backtracking was fairly scummy, but in Mac's mind, TD can't both be scummy for, as Mac said, soft-FOSing Ven and waiting for more traction, and ALSO scummy for quickly backing off when someone else voted Ven. From reading Mac's posts, it seems the former, that Mac didn't read post 49 and thought that TD was soft pushing Ven waiting for more votes to jump on. However, when I corrected this to him, he stated:In post 647, thezmon221 wrote:So what you're telling me... is that he's wrong for not reading a backtrack? I'd understand if this was like, y'know, something less scummy. But TD backtracked the hell out of that post. He went all guns blazing at Venmar, only to later say, "Oh, I never REALLY wanted to vote him!"But TD explained in his very next post that he only said that out of frustration, and never intended to actually vote him. Mac seems to have ignored that post entirely.In post 208, Mac wrote:and yet you said you were "heavily tempted" to vote Venmar earlierIn post 200, TiphaineDeath wrote:It's not a mother fucking policy lynch, I didn't push a lynch on venmar, I never voted venmar, and I hate policy lynches. Remove-head-from-rectum-conf-town.
...Remind me why it's scummy to assume such behavior?As I stated earlier, his only posted justification was in 138 (cited above) where he says only that he doesn't like the way TD has been playing so far (meaning posts before 138).In post 245, Mac wrote: ok. i was wrong. remind me why that makes me scum?I've justified my place on this wagon already.
So, at 245, he's on a large wagon, which grew extremely quickly, and has just had one of his primary reasons for being on the wagon reveled to be incorrect. His reaction is to stay on the wagon, and not bother to examine the people on it at all? This isn't town motivated at all.
) I'll do my homework later to determine for surez, but I just. don't. see. a. scuMac.
